Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[CafeCordoba]

Just because he won't have to worry about winning games by himself, doesn't mean he will all of a sudden become Toni in his best years when it comes to finishing. That was my point. Barca in my opinion would be 2x better with Villa than with Ibra, so I'm not suprised they chased him so hard before moving for Ibra.

Ibrahimovic was Guardiola's first option all the time. Zlatan adds a whole new dimension to Barcelona's gameplay. They don't have to play nice and neat on the ground all the time when they have Zlatan as target man.

 

[Handoyo]

Ibrahimovic was Guardiola's first option all the time. Zlatan adds a whole new dimension to Barcelona's gameplay. They don't have to play nice and neat on the ground all the time when they have Zlatan as target man.

Is the Shahz virus infecting me? Because the first time I read that, I got a lot of sexual reference. Damn.

btw, yes, I know why we are not in that position. Just a little bit of a whine, that's all.

Anyways, who is glad that Ibra is moving to Barcelona instead of money whore clubs like Real Madrid or Chelsea? I think it can be said that Barcelona is generally the 2nd preferred club in this forum?

 

[CafeCordoba]

I haven't got a source but apparantly Laporta said they will buy Ibra regardless of if Eto'o agrees a switch or not.

Here's your source. They are saying Laporta said that in TV3.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/20090719/53748043516/noticia/ibrahimovic-llegara-con-o-sin-etoo-segun-laporta.html&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

Well, this would be totally fantastic. If we really could acquire 70m€ from Ibra.

 

[Besnik]

Is the Shahz virus infecting me? Because the first time I read that, I got a lot of sexual reference. Damn.

btw, yes, I know why we are not in that position. Just a little bit of a whine, that's all.

Anyways, who is glad that Ibra is moving to Barcelona instead of money whore clubs like Real Madrid or Chelsea? I think it can be said that Barcelona is generally the 2nd preferred club in this forum?

I don't think anyone is glad so Ibra is moving to Barca(including me, I'm not happy for this what will happen), but he want's to leave us for Barca, he think there will be win CL, we can't do anything, just to wait and see what will happen with this deal.

btw, there's no 2nd preferred club for me, maybe just Primavera joke.

 

[Hussein]

LMAO at this! That's 100% photoshoped!!!:dielaugh:

LOL!! As you like buddy.

 

[FCBarca]

Ibra is as much a merc as eto. Ibra has the record of the longest time spend at one club being 3 years. Eto has at least spend 5 seasons at barca and before that 4 at mallorca. Its foolish to call eto a merc when defending ibra.

It would be very unfair to describe Samu as a mercenary, IMHO...Far from it...He's pretty authentic/genuine in understanding his job and not lobbying for anything outside of being paid wages that are commensurate with his production/status...Never flirted with other clubs while at Barca but will always need to feel like he is valued...If he gets slighted, turn the lights out - he'll walk.

There are plenty of Cules that would've rather seen him remain but the reality is that it became an untenable situation...He walked out to the ledge and had no intention of walking back it seems

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Ibrahimovic was Guardiola's first option all the time. Zlatan adds a whole new dimension to Barcelona's gameplay. They don't have to play nice and neat on the ground all the time when they have Zlatan as target man.

Sure, thats why they spent all summer chasing Villa, and only turned to Ibra, when Valencia refused to budge. :wallbang:

Seriously where the hell do you people come up with these ridiculous theories? Did Guardiola personally call you and told you, that Ibra was his first choice? And they were using Villa as a bait to reduce Ibra's price?
We sent Ibra to tour with the rest of the squad in states, he was there at our kit launching ceremony. Why would we do all that shit, if we knew that he was a goner back in May?

Eto is a great striker, but a very big moaner. Also there is no way that him and Milito can work together in attack. And there is no way we should pay him 10mills in wages. If he demands this ridiculous wage, barca can keep him, and pay us 60mills in Cash.

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Mou will convince that he is the most important striker in his project. I have no doubt about that. Jose is a very convincing coach. Eto will agree to join . May only worry is the salary.

:dielaugh:

If he is so convincing, couldn't he convince Ibra to stay? The only thing Jose is good at, is convincing moronic fan boys to like him.

 

[FCBarca]

Sure, thats why they spent all summer chasing Villa, and only turned to Ibra, when Valencia refused to budge. :wallbang:

Seriously where the hell do you people come up with these ridiculous theories? Did Guardiola personally call you and told you, that Ibra was his first choice? And they were using Villa as a bait to reduce Ibra's price?
We sent Ibra to tour with the rest of the squad in states, he was there at our kit launching ceremony. Why would we do all that shit, if we knew that he was a goner back in May?

Eto is a great striker, but a very big moaner. Also there is no way that him and Milito can work together in attack. And there is no way we should pay him 10mills in wages. If he demands this ridiculous wage, barca can keep him, and pay us 60mills in Cash.

Well, I think you may be wrong on this point, actually...As much as conventional wisdom would suggest, Villa wasn't the first target in the transfer season but Ibra...At least, in reports in Spain, the first rumours of the transfer season were regarding Ibrahimovich...The Villa rumours began after the Ibra ones died down over the rumoured valuation by Inter.

 

[Adam]

Here's your source. They are saying Laporta said that in TV3.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/20090719/53748043516/noticia/ibrahimovic-llegara-con-o-sin-etoo-segun-laporta.html&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

Well, this would be totally fantastic. If we really could acquire 70m€ from Ibra.

Thx man. And I agree that Ibra was the first choice all along. If he wasn't I doubt Moratti and Laporta would of met before Barca even allegedly started chasing Villa. I think it also speaks loads that they are willing to spend big on Ibra but not as much on Villa.

It could be a situation where they initally wanted Ibra, but when they noticed that the Barca fans would rather have Villa they turned their attention to him instead.

 

[FCBarca]

You know, I always thought that Barca is making a bad deal by getting Ibra instead of keeping Eto'o or getting Villa.

But after thinking about it, actually Ibra is perhaps the exact thing that they need. Remember the semi-finals against Chelsea? Chelsea played a very good defensive game and their players were very physical. Barca had an extremely hard time breaking their defense and in such matches, Ibra is exactly what they need. (Let's not talk about Ibra's poor knockout performance, just think about his ability/skill here)

So maybe Barca won't be so fluid anymore, but they will also be more balanced and not be as one-dimensional too.

Just my 2 cents.

That's the thinking among Barca fans, as well...That against defenses sitting behind the ball in numbers and camped around the box, that Ibra could provide something Samu could not...The truth is, I can't recall a striker of Ibra's ilk ever playing for Barca...It presents a very unique situation for the club and Pep seems to believe it can work.

I think from a Barca fan's perspective, the biggest thing fans worry about is him tracking back on defense like Samu would and did...As for Inter fans, you should never worry about this talk of him being a mercenary...He will play hard and no amount of professed love for the club will make him play any harder...He motivates himself and playing with that chip on his shoulder, as he does, will be all the encouragement he requires...He will play his azz off for Inter...Guaranteed

 

[NimAraya]

Just because he won't have to worry about winning games by himself, doesn't mean he will all of a sudden become Toni in his best years when it comes to finishing. That was my point. Barca in my opinion would be 2x better with Villa than with Ibra, so I'm not suprised they chased him so hard before moving for Ibra.

FYI Ibra is 27 and since he's a talented player he still have a long way to improve more and more. Playing in a very physical and defensive team for years while you have to do everything by urself can't help it much. u were among the people that was saying Mancini's era was reached to the maximum last season remember?! Now why you can't say the same thing about Ibra and Inter?!

In my assumption the reason why Barca turned to Villa for a long time was because first he was spanish and second he was much cheaper than Ibra. If the rumors were true Barca already offered a 25 m + Eto'o deal for Ibra and Maxwell which was rejected by Moratti before they went after Villa. Since Valencia started to play hardballs it led Laporta and Txixi to go for Ibra again, a player that Guardiola knows for sure how priceless he is.

 

[Luka]

FYI Ibra is 27 and since he's a talented player he still have a long way to improve more and more. Playing in a very physical and defensive team for years while you have to do everything by urself can't help it much. u were among the people that was saying Mancini's era was reached to the maximum last season remember?! Now why you can't say the same thing about Ibra and Inter?!

Because then he would become the best striker in the history of football, and I don't think it is possible. Not that I wouldn't wish him that, but I personaly believe this is physicaly imposible to have a player like that. Just like having a winger, who is like Messi, and also deffensive wise like Gattuso etc.

 

[NimAraya]

Because then he would become the best striker in the history of football, and I don't think it is possible. Not that I wouldn't wish him that, but I personaly believe this is physicaly imposible to have a player like that. Just like having a winger, who is like Messi, and also deffensive wise like Gattuso etc.

Barca's style will incredibly influence Ibra and since he's a player with a winning mentality and an ego to claim to be the best player in the world he will add even more effort and focus to be at the same par or higher than all those great players around him: Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Henry.

That's as easy as that. When you hang out with ordinary people you have less chance to improve than when you hang out with the winners. That's all about life.

The absolute winners in this deal without a doubt is Barcelona!

 

[Stefan]

:dielaugh:

If he is so convincing, couldn't he convince Ibra to stay? The only thing Jose is good at, is convincing moronic fan boys to like him.

How many new players who have joined us since jose joined has talked about the great opportunity of working under him?? You don't like him that's fine but that doesn't change the fact that many players want to play for him.

Not even god himself could make ibra want to stay. I am 100% sure jose would have tried.

 

[Stefan]

Eto's agent says that if barca wants to sell eto they should have told him and eto first. But they do like moratti.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://www.fcinternews.it/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D6614

I know its goal.com so this may be false but they say ibra's agent has said ibra thinks its time to move on and he wants to move to win the cl. If true there goes all this theory from some that ibra wants to stay and its moratti pushing him out the door.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/12/spai...as-not-reached-agreement-with-barcelona-agent

 

[Adam]

That last line sounds extremely similar to Ibra's twitter account that turned out to be fake. I think this is a case where media just intentionally or unintentionlly mixed up different stories.

 

[Luka]

Barca's style will incredibly influence Ibra and since he's a player with a winning mentality and an ego to claim to be the best player in the world he will add even more effort and focus to be at the same par or higher than all those great players around him: Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Henry.

That's as easy as that. When you hang out with ordinary people you have less chance to improve than when you hang out with the winners. That's all about life.

The absolute winners in this deal without a doubt is Barcelona!

We will see. I'm not saying it's 100% impossible, just that it's my opinion.

I see it as a personality mirror. Clinical strikers have different personalities, from players with a lot of fantasy etc, and because of that they score simple goals mostly. Ibra doesn't.

He can become a lot more clinical, but I believe if it will happen he will loose some of his flair in the process and I don't wish him that.

 

[minterke]

Etoo and 40 million is tempting, but it is not worth the loss of Ibra.

I know Moratti would never sell Ibra, but it's him who wants to leave..

 

[rsz85]

I rate higher the "45+Etoo" deal than simply 70 million.