Why is Inter bad in selling players?

[chipschups]

Only good sale in the last few seasons is Hernanes and Ricky.

ricky still not sells out yet..

 

[Kakaroto]

Brehme: Because of Marotta and Conte.

 

[IM21]

because we are bad at signing them

 

[Wobblz]

because we are bad at signing them

Aaand we have a winner, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We don't know when to sell them. When it suits to us, it's already too late.

Also, generally we give salaries very generously which leads to players not wanting to move at all or buyers not able to pay the same salary.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

We are bad at selling them, because as one member pointed out: our amazing, super futuristic, insanely deep to the last detail scouting has always failed us.

From shit players: think of Schelotto.

To place fillers: think of Mudingayi.

To "let's hope he turns out good": Ricky Alvarez.

To "hmm maybe we will get lucky": Botta.

To "well we saw couple of YouTube highlights, so he has to be great": Gabigol, J. Mario.

Everyone of the sucked big hairy balls. We have incompetent team behind closed doors. Hopefully that will change.

 

[.h.]

our players are generally shit and dont have masses of demand for them in the market

we buy them older rather than younger, and we dont want to book losses, so its hard for us to move them

everyone knows how fucked we are financially so they can gouge us

we pay them enough that shit players dont want to go to clubs more appropriate for them because they'd make less

 

[_Ivan_]

Why is Inter Inter must be the real question

 

[forzainter257]

this thing is going to get fixed by Marotta in a few years

 

[Mad Biscione]

shit doesnt sell all that well

 

[brehme1989]

Inter is not a selling club, that's why. We were only forced to sell Eto'o and Kovacic in the last decade. One was sold to Russia and we took the deal because we unloaded a huge salary and the other to the top team in the world as a prospect. Go a decade back and the only player we were sort of forced to sell was Cannavaro and then there was Zlatan Ibrahimovic who is the exception. The rest we either said we don't want anymore or had friction with the manager. The only grey area player was Crespo who we sort of wanted to keep but after a not so great season even Cuper was fine with him leaving and we barely got Julio Cruz in return.

Inter is a buying club. But it's mostly a 'keeping' club. And that's what matters most. If you manage to keep your stars. We historically are one of the very few clubs that hold onto the star players we want to keep.

Our main issue was not buying quality in the last decade, hopefully something we shall be fixing in the near future. We tend to exhaust every miligram of football a player has to offer, otherwise we ship him elsewhere for his retirement check. But even in financial turmoil, we never lost anyone we considered super important such as Handanovic, Icardi, or Skriniar later on. Only Kovacic who we did want to keep was genuinely sacrificed for this reason.

So we historically do not know how to sell players, we only know how to buy them. We didn't have any money for 5-6 years though which regressed our status. This mindset applies to very few teams such as Real Madrid and Bayern. Even Juventus, Milan, Man Utd and Barcelona are more selling clubs than we are. We only lost Ronaldo because of the Cuper feud, we didn't sell Adriano when the whole world wanted him, we didn't sell Sneijer to Man Utd when they were knocking (only to gift wrap him a year and half later elsewhere), Maicon and Milito were kept, Zanetti has stuck despite constant offers from Real Madrid and even Barcelona + Man Utd and so on.. Juventus lost Zidane, they even sold Zlatan to us of all teams (thank Raiola!), whilst Milan has lost Shevchenko, Kaka, Zlatan and Thiago Silva etc... During their peaks mind you.

You see this mentality now from Manchester City and Paris Saint Germain. They do not sell their best players. PSG in particular has managed to sign at a good age three of the best players from Barcelona and Milan during a strong period for them. Man City has never managed this type of transfer coup, but you see that they usually focus on tier 2 club players who cannot refuse their offers and these players could also be Real Madrid or Barcelona targets during the time or after a season with them (eg De Bruyne, Laporte, Sane and Bernardo Silva come to mind plus Aguero several years back). But they're not really selling them well, they're mostly shipping them out. Can you really imagine someone buying De Bruyne or Bernardo Silva? Leroy Sane could leave because they seem to not want him anymore for whatever reason, but it would be very surprising if someone could buy one of these two off of them. Especially De Bruyne.

For some clubs it is more valuable to have a player whose valuation from the club is over 100m than to sell him for around that sum and replace him with inadequate quality. You prefer to milk out every ounce of talent this player has to offer and then let him go on a free or on a discount when he's 34ish (think Cambiasso, Samuel, Julio Cesar) or have him retire at the club (think Stankovic, Cordoba and of course Zanetti)


I don't get why people insist on paying attention to this. This is a farmer's mentality and we're no such thing. Get me the best and keep them here as long as they can be the best. That's the Inter way!

 

[.h.]

well, we;ve hardly been signing the best lately.

 

[brehme1989]

well, we;ve hardly been signing the best lately.

Which is something we need to start doing once more, otherwise we'll end up stuck in this 2010s loop. We aren't going anywhere but backwards with the Lazaros and the Xhakas.

 

[DARi0]

Simple reason: we are not selling-oriented club. I also hate how cheaply some of our players went [Coutinho €13m, Motta €11.5, Sneijder €7.5m, Quaresma €7.3, Banega €7m,, Medel €2.5m, etc.] and believe we should improve on this to make it easier for the future FFP and budget-wise. Another reason is if you flop at a top club like ours, it`s pretty much downfall from there on as clubs are not excited to have you any more [think Alvaro Pereira or Schelotto].

Also, we used to buy players in their prime, leaving little to none re-sale value. Marotta can fix this for us. However, we almost sold Icardi for good money, until Marotta blew everything in the media about how unprofessional he is - now nobody wants to buy him any more, except perhaps juBe. But then again, if the truth has not been exposed, the majority of FIF would have opposed his sale and fans attending the stadium would potentially protest against the new leadership.

Let`s see how much we can fetch for Dalbert with our new management, who is NOT past his prime but clearly improper for Serie A tactical play. Time for Marotta to teach Ausilio HOW TO SELL!

 

[Universe]

Inter is not a selling club, that's why. We were only forced to sell Eto'o and Kovacic in the last decade. One was sold to Russia and we took the deal because we unloaded a huge salary and the other to the top team in the world as a prospect. Go a decade back and the only player we were sort of forced to sell was Cannavaro and then there was Zlatan Ibrahimovic who is the exception. The rest we either said we don't want anymore or had friction with the manager. The only grey area player was Crespo who we sort of wanted to keep but after a not so great season even Cuper was fine with him leaving and we barely got Julio Cruz in return.

Inter is a buying club. But it's mostly a 'keeping' club. And that's what matters most. If you manage to keep your stars. We historically are one of the very few clubs that hold onto the star players we want to keep.

Our main issue was not buying quality in the last decade, hopefully something we shall be fixing in the near future. We tend to exhaust every miligram of football a player has to offer, otherwise we ship him elsewhere for his retirement check. But even in financial turmoil, we never lost anyone we considered super important such as Handanovic, Icardi, or Skriniar later on. Only Kovacic who we did want to keep was genuinely sacrificed for this reason.

So we historically do not know how to sell players, we only know how to buy them. We didn't have any money for 5-6 years though which regressed our status. This mindset applies to very few teams such as Real Madrid and Bayern. Even Juventus, Milan, Man Utd and Barcelona are more selling clubs than we are. We only lost Ronaldo because of the Cuper feud, we didn't sell Adriano when the whole world wanted him, we didn't sell Sneijer to Man Utd when they were knocking (only to gift wrap him a year and half later elsewhere), Maicon and Milito were kept, Zanetti has stuck despite constant offers from Real Madrid and even Barcelona + Man Utd and so on.. Juventus lost Zidane, they even sold Zlatan to us of all teams (thank Raiola!), whilst Milan has lost Shevchenko, Kaka, Zlatan and Thiago Silva etc... During their peaks mind you.

You see this mentality now from Manchester City and Paris Saint Germain. They do not sell their best players. PSG in particular has managed to sign at a good age three of the best players from Barcelona and Milan during a strong period for them. Man City has never managed this type of transfer coup, but you see that they usually focus on tier 2 club players who cannot refuse their offers and these players could also be Real Madrid or Barcelona targets during the time or after a season with them (eg De Bruyne, Laporte, Sane and Bernardo Silva come to mind plus Aguero several years back). But they're not really selling them well, they're mostly shipping them out. Can you really imagine someone buying De Bruyne or Bernardo Silva? Leroy Sane could leave because they seem to not want him anymore for whatever reason, but it would be very surprising if someone could buy one of these two off of them. Especially De Bruyne.

For some clubs it is more valuable to have a player whose valuation from the club is over 100m than to sell him for around that sum and replace him with inadequate quality. You prefer to milk out every ounce of talent this player has to offer and then let him go on a free or on a discount when he's 34ish (think Cambiasso, Samuel, Julio Cesar) or have him retire at the club (think Stankovic, Cordoba and of course Zanetti)


I don't get why people insist on paying attention to this. This is a farmer's mentality and we're no such thing. Get me the best and keep them here as long as they can be the best. That's the Inter way!

That's all well and good when you're one of the elite of the elite - not just competing, but constantly winning and earning at the top of the pile. We are not even close to that in the real world today. Even in our history we've been streaky, with periods of winning mixed with long periods of not. And don't say that's all because juve controlled the league every year for the last 115 years.

Fast forward to present day, we haven't come close to 2nd place for a long time. Considering the financial landscape of Europe and its respective leagues, our finances can not compete with clubs who earn their own stadium revenue and benefit from super TV deals. This gap is only going to be widened in the future, not shortened. There's no room for sentiment. That's why the managements of two global historic clubs in Inter and Milan are both willing to walk out on their historic home, and even demolish it - for the sake of pragmatism over "football 'eritage."

The points you've made are partly valid, especially historically, but they are not the values of the club right now. That's because we've brought in Marotta, who is the exact opposite of this value. Marotta is coldly pragmatic, and for better or worse, doesn't hold onto these notions if they don't make sense from a business point of view. I have no doubt that if someone inexplicably offered €20m for Handanovic tomorrow, Marotta for one would accept it. If Icardi isn't being sold, it's because there's no offers that satisfy Marotta & co. from an economic standpoint.

I do also think you're vastly downplaying our incompetence in terms of selling.

 

[.h.]

Yep. We are nowhere near the top tier of clubs in europe anymore.

 

[brehme1989]

I'm not downgrading our incompetence. We can't sell junk, just like Man Utd cannot sell junk, or Milan cannot etc. We can sell promising kids for fun though.

We rarely were put in a position to MUST SELL a player because he wanted to leave us for a better place. We rarely allowed for this better place to exist. Other than Zlatan who developed issues with the club(fanbase) at the end, I cannot even think of a single case in the last 30 years. Then there's Rummenigge who wanted to return to Germany but those were different times anyway. Brehme and Matthaus could be included but it's not like they viewed Inter as a stepping stone, they just wanted to go home.
We got as many Real Madrid starters coming as they have gotten ours! Even includes Kovacic in our crappiest period in recent history. Not sure another club can claim that.

We had chances to sell our best players but we haven't, even when we were in a bad situation. We just are not a selling club. And this is what the nouveauriche clubs like Chelsea, Man City and PSG are trying to emulate. On the other hand, teams like Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Milan, Juventus etc have been more prone to selling their star players. Not to the level of clubs like Roma, Dortmund or Valencia have done, but much more than us. In good times and bad.

I do agree that under Marotta that may change and even players like Skriniar are at risk, and it is one of the main reasons I was against his hiring. But the club's will usually prevails and if there are many people who share the club's values around the top, we should be expecting an Inter 'normality'. And that would be the direction of signing top players and not selling them, but simply offloading the ones we don't want. Maybe with FFP we will be forced to sell a player here and there, but with Ausilio's Primavera medicine we probably have it settled for life.

P..S. Which clubs "sell well"?

 

[InterFCAustin]

Which is something we need to start doing once more, otherwise we'll end up stuck in this 2010s loop. We aren't going anywhere but backwards with the Lazaros and the Xhakas.

Have you ever been wrong about a player inter got, that you didn’t approve, or thought was shit, only for him to surprise you and perform really well, and have you own it publicly on fif, that you were wrong?
Honest question.

 

[brehme1989]

Have you ever been wrong about a player inter got, that you didn’t approve, or thought was shit, only for him to surprise you and perform really well, and have you own it publicly on fif, that you were wrong?
Honest question.

Error, question does not compute blivious:

I probably would have been a lot during this decade but I wasn't around.
For example I believed that Kondogbia wasn't a terrible transfer at the time other than overpaying for him.

In general I can only recall being surprised negatively. The only one who impressed me was Skriniar who I wasn't expecting to be an instant success but I think even Spalletti, Ausilio, Skriniar himself and everyone involved with Inter was equally surprised. But it's not like I expected him to be a failed transfer.

Lazaro could "surprise" us in the sense that he can prove useful for brief moments of time, but overall he's going to be someone we'll want to offload after a few years.

 

[JJM]

Rename the club to Casa di riposo internazionale/International retirement home

Grandpas from former Yugoslavia countries especially welcomed

Yaay

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