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1919 said:
Frisko has been really silent-like ... i miss his views on the game, very unlike him !!!
Yeah I've been in shock/denial since yesterday mate, I wrote the following this morning:

About 12 hours after the game, I finally find the strenght to put down my thoughts on yesterday's disaster.

After the anger and bitter disappointment, now it's time to deal with this "did that really happen?" feeling, so typical of the day after a major screw-up.

And boy, didn't they screw up last night!

Reading this thread I can see Mancini getting most of the blame, and no, I'm not going to stick up for him, don't worry.

Mancini phucked up big time. In my view, his fatal mistakes were:

1) Not calling up Solari, and not playing him for at least 45 minutes in place of Figo who was clearly not fit to play the whole game.

2) Playing the ghost of Adriano for freakin 90 minutes, instead of taking him out and put Cruz on at half time.

3) Not giving Pizarro a chance at least for a portion of the 2nd half.

I don't think playing Mihajlovic was a major mistake, he gave Zanetti a chance to go forward, and God knows Zanetti was the only guy yesterday who seemed to be able to dribble and cause any danger. If Mihajlovic scored with that free kick, we would be talking very differently today.

What I don't agree with many of you is blaming ONLY Mancini, because almost all of our players screwed up badly last night.

I mean, Cambiasso SUCKED. Now, how many times did you get to say that in the last 18 months? Not many. Cuchu didn't win back one single ball and he played a good part in our midfield getting owned by Riquelme.

Veron was awful. Adriano and Martins were ghosts, absolutely terrible. Recoba did a bit of pressing but his free kicks were piss poor and he never got into the game.

I thought Materazzi played very well with many good tackles inside the box, but then he wasted it all with that moronic elbow.

Capitano was ok, Samuel was ok, Cordoba not a disaster. Toldone was our hero, in Valencia form, the only player we could be proud of last night.

It is undeniable that Villareal deserved to go through.

Now guys, the day after, with cooler minds, we must do our part and don't screw up ourselves.

If we want to win, we need to learn how to lose. And too many times in the last 10 years or so, our reaction to defeat is asking for a revolution. Get a new coach, get new players.

Look at Gobbi against Arsenal, they were awful, but you wouldn't hear a gobbo fan asking for Capello to be sacked or Zlatan to be sold. We gotta learn from our mistakes. As Han said, consistency is the key.

Now I'm not gonna say it'll be easy. After all we might find ourselves at the end of next year with a room full of Coppa Italia trophies while Milan and Gobbi are losing count of their scudetti and Champions League wins.

But we must hold on and try it again next year with Mancini and the same core of players. After all, it doesn't take much to turn shit into gold in football. If we had a striker in top form during the last 7 days, we would have gone through, playing badly and maybe without deserving it, but we would have.

How many times did Inzaghi or Trezeguet save Ancelotti and Capello's asses after they played like crap this season?

And look at the table. Think at Samuel's 2nd season, with him and our defence settled.

It's very hard even for me now to keep believing in Mancini, Adriano, Martins and company, but I really want to and I know that's the best way forward for Inter.

Come on! Let's try it.
 

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the point about cambiasso is wrong he never goes after players your still in denial, or just blind, lightning has illuminated reality mate.
 

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a gr8 one Frisko. not that i agree with everything, but to put it in words like that is a gr8 effort.

der aaye durust aaye.
 

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1919 said:
a gr8 one Frisko. not that i agree with everything, but to put it in words like that is a gr8 effort.

der aaye durust aaye.
Thanks mate, I couldn't get on with work before I put those things down... God I just hate the day after these defeats, and I feel for fans in Italy, I mean I got people mocking me here in freakin England!

Durai your views on Cambiasso belong in that thread you know about :p
 

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Frisko said:
Thanks mate, I couldn't get on with work before I put those things down... God I just hate the day after these defeats, and I feel for fans in Italy, I mean I got people mocking me here in freakin England!

Durai your views on Cambiasso belong in that thread you know about :p

I am listening to Pazza Inter after big defeats. It helps me and than I always believe we will be champions next year...
 

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I am listening to Pazza Inter after big defeats. It helps me and than I always believe we will be champions next year...

are you going to keep doing this everytime mancini f*cks up?
 

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Frisko said:
I mean, Cambiasso SUCKED. Now, how many times did you get to say that in the last 18 months? Not many. Cuchu didn't win back one single ball and he played a good part in our midfield getting owned by Riquelme.

You know what is worrying about Cambiasso? It seems that he sucks in big moments this year. I remember his crap performance against Juve, and he seems to suck under pressure.

Oh God, not another 'great when it counts for little, horrible when it really counts' player!
 

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You know what is worrying about Cambiasso? It seems that he sucks in big moments this year. I remember his crap performance against Juve, and he seems to suck under pressure.

Oh God, not another 'great when it counts for little, horrible when it really counts' player!

if they suck in big games and are good against treviso, it means they are not good enough to be at inter.
 

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There is not much you can say about this result, I have seen it so many times before, Inter letting great opportunities go by. We just never seemed to get going and the quotes on Inter.it are spot on. "We failed to react", "We should have done more", "We were a pile of s***".

Where was the fighting spirit we saw under Mancini against Sampdoria and Juve last season? So many players seemed to go missing last night and it is a real shame as this was a great chance to get to the semis. I read rumours about the team fighting amongst themselves (pinch of salt as channel 4!), but if this is true then I hope our season doesn't go completely down the pan.
 

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Gazzetta pointed out how little assistance Cambiasso had yesterday.
 

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if he's so good why did he need assistance huh?
 

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because people on this forum are inter fans they don't want to say anything bad about cambiasso, cambiasso is not the player people say he is, the media are also a reason for his super stardom the media re quick to judge on things.
 

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On inter.it the pictures say "Light session for the ones who played against Villareall"

LOL..They must be joking..I haven't seen anybody who played against Villareal on those pics..
 

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Frisko said:
Gazzetta pointed out how little assistance Cambiasso had yesterday.

what assistance he's supposed to provide assistance, he supposed cover veron when he goes forward, he couldn't do it if there's one another person other than mancini who should be blamed it's him after all he's a CM he supposed to make the team work.
 

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On inter.it the pictures say "Light session for the ones who played against Villareall"

LOL..They must be joking..I haven't seen anybody who played against Villareal on those pics..
What the wasent Riquelme training????
 

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Hi.
I have just registered at this great, great forum about my favourite team FC Internazionale.
I just would like to post my thoughts about yesterday`s crucial defeat against Villarreal.:stuckup:
Inter really sucked yesterday...
No will,no motivation...
They looked like seven years old players running at a schoolyard...
Why didn`t they gave more in a such important match??
They could easily have won the game, if they would had the WILL to win...
Villarreal owned the whole match, Inter started good, but then they let Villarreal take over the match..
They should have scored an early goal! then,it would have been easier.
And why did they play VERON from start?!:wallbang: He has played awful the last matches, he didn`t play good at the first leg, and neither in the second leg.. PIZARRO should have played at least A HALF of the match. He has great technique and I think he could have created problems for Villarreal.
And I really think SANTIAGO SOLARI should started the match! at least he should been on the bench! he scored two goals against messina in the weekend, and he seems in good shape. A player I have faith in.:moan: Stankovic is OK at the left wing, but solari should have been given a chance this match!
And I don`t understand why Inter didn`t create more chances then they did! They had almost no pressure at the Villarreal defence.
When I saw that Mancini switched Figo for Miha, I almost couldn`t believe my own eyes. A DEFENDER for a MIDFIELDER when you`re 1 down..:wth:
It`s ok that he`s good on set pieces, but I think they should have switched in a more offensice player(like solari or pizarro)
My ultimate substitutions would been:
Out: Figo
In: Kily Gonzales
and
Out: Juan Sebastian Veron
In: David Pizarro

The recoba-martins substitute was ok, I think.

So,my conclusion is that Inter has a lot to work on.
Yesterday was I ashamed of being a Inter fan..
Sad but true..:broken:
I`m disappointed....:broken:
 

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Cambiasso89 said:
Hi.
I have just registered at this great, great forum about my favourite team FC Internazionale.
I just would like to post my thoughts about yesterday`s crucial defeat against Villarreal.:stuckup:
Inter really sucked yesterday...
No will,no motivation...
They looked like seven years old players running at a schoolyard...
Why didn`t they gave more in a such important match??
They could easily have won the game, if they would had the WILL to win...
Villarreal owned the whole match, Inter started good, but then they let Villarreal take over the match..
They should have scored an early goal! then,it would have been easier.
And why did they play VERON from start?!:wallbang: He has played awful the last matches, he didn`t play good at the first leg, and neither in the second leg.. PIZARRO should have played at least A HALF of the match. He has great technique and I think he could have created problems for Villarreal.
And I really think SANTIAGO SOLARI should started the match! at least he should been on the bench! he scored two goals against messina in the weekend, and he seems in good shape. A player I have faith in.:moan: Stankovic is OK at the left wing, but solari should have been given a chance this match!
And I don`t understand why Inter didn`t create more chances then they did! They had almost no pressure at the Villarreal defence.
When I saw that Mancini switched Figo for Miha, I almost couldn`t believe my own eyes. A DEFENDER for a MIDFIELDER when you`re 1 down..:wth:
It`s ok that he`s good on set pieces, but I think they should have switched in a more offensice player(like solari or pizarro)
My ultimate substitutions would been:
Out: Figo
In: Kily Gonzales
and
Out: Juan Sebastian Veron
In: David Pizarro

The recoba-martins substitute was ok, I think.

So,my conclusion is that Inter has a lot to work on.
Yesterday was I ashamed of being a Inter fan..
Sad but true..:broken:
I`m disappointed....:broken:

mate, cambiasso is the worst defensive midfielder inter ever had.
 

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mate, cambiasso is the worst defensive midfielder inter ever had.

Just because he played a bad game yesterday, doesn`t mean his he`s bad;)
He`s good when he`s in form...
 
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