Time to Sack Stramaccioni - What went wrong at Siena

[Kraits]

Just wanna say that the best coach that can work under these circumstances (operating under strict budget ) is Arsene Wenger....

Don't understand the hate for him here..

 

[minterke]

lol...

Didn't we push out Sneijder and Coutinho because they didn't fit in Strama's system?

Sacked or not, this is a disaster. Zeman anyone?

 

[I4E]

lol...

Didn't we push out Sneijder and Coutinho because they didn't fit in Strama's system?

Sacked or not, this is a disaster. Zeman anyone?

Zeman sounds like a good idea tbh.

Atleast we'll lose games pretty as opposed to lose games ugly...

 

[Nyall]

Just wanna say that the best coach that can work under these circumstances (operating under strict budget ) is Arsene Wenger....

Don't understand the hate for him here..

Arsene's budget is anything but strict.. The man is simply a pedophile and spends little because kids cost little and he's cheap as fuck.... He also hasn't won shit in 7 years... Please keep him the fuckl away from this club.

 

[Handoyo]

Right, let's bring Zeman

 

[b4h4mooth]

From Merda forum :

Strama is well just no ready to coach a team like Inter. Inter has the squad to be comfortable in 2nd or 3rd place, specially cause they have no CL. Inter has looked devoid of ideas in almost every game they played, he over relies on Cassano, he hasnt found a way to get the most out of his midfield, his backline is good individually but when in a unit it looks like such a mess.

They weren't rivals for scudetto like Moratti proclaimed post Juve match, but they're definitely underperforming. Dunno if he'll even arrive to the Derby, and a short term fix with what's left of the season is basically saying good bye to CL chances.

Wouldn't be surprised if Lazio fires their coach, would be stupid, cause they've done well regardless of the bad set of results lately, but its how those teams manage themselves.

 

[francesco]

Arsene's budget is anything but strict.. The man is simply a pedophile and spends little because kids cost little and he's cheap as fuck.... He also hasn't won shit in 7 years... Please keep him the fuckl away from this club.

actually he is the type we need for our youth project
implement youth, limited budget and champions league spot
the problem is arsenal business model is buy young cheap -> turn into decent player -> sell for profit
wenger won epl when he got good players with unbeatable record
we just need to modified a little bit : buy young cheap -> turn into decent player -> keep the player and try to win

Zeman sounds like a good idea tbh.

Atleast we'll lose games pretty as opposed to lose games ugly...

we cannot use zeman until next season

 

[Lionheart]

Who is going to come in for him?

I want Simeone tbh.

:epicwin:

DiegAUW! fuck Atletico. Come back home, baby!

 

[I4E]

Zeman sounds like a good idea tbh.

Atleast we'll lose games pretty as opposed to lose games ugly...

we cannot use zeman until next season

It's sarcasm. I wouldn't have Zeman at Inter as a boot studder...

 

[Kraits]

actually he is the type we need for our youth project
implement youth, limited budget and champions league spot
the problem is arsenal business model is buy young cheap -> turn into decent player -> sell for profit
wenger won epl when he got good players with unbeatable record
we just need to modified a little bit : buy young cheap -> turn into decent player -> keep the player and try to win

Agree totally, couldn't write it better...

 

[.h.]

Lets sack Strama. Give the new coach 10 games to prove himself, if he does not improve the results, lets sack him too. And so on and on. Inter can start a unique coach rotation policy... oh wait, it won't be unique... there is Palermo. Browha, is that your grand vision of what you want Inter to become? What makes you so sure that a new coach would fare any better than a Ranieri or a Gasperini, specially considering the limited options available mid season?

I think the biggest issue at Inter is too little patience with coaches. Strama is our 6th coach in 3 seasons! Clearly, this cannot be the solution? Browha, you say that you believed in Strama. Surely if you believed in a coach, and he is only 3 points behind our target for this season (CL spot), you cannot want to sack him before he even completes his first season?

Strama is a novice. No coaching experience whatsoever at the senior level. A coaching equivalent of Kovacic if you may. We knew that when we signed him. Surely, we also understood that it will take time, perhaps a couple of seasons, before Strama starts delivering? It takes a new coach 2-3 transfer windows to create a squad that matches his personality, which is specially true for a club with little means like Inter these days. If we sack him halfway through this process, then we haven't even given him a fair trial to show his potential. Sacking him now would only show that Inter were clueless when they hired such an inexperienced coach.

I would understand the argument for a sacking if Inter were (position wise) far below we were last season... but we are 4th, last season we finished 5th. It is still under-performance, as our goal is to finish in the top 3, but is it enough cause for a sacking? Specially a mid season sacking? IMO that should be only done in the most extreme of circumstances... I do see where you are coming from, you probably see Strama's lack of tactical growth combined with our shit performances as an extreme circumstance which justifies mid season sacking. I don't. We just bought 3 players who Strama has been asking for, I believe we should at least give him the rest of the season to see how he uses them, and whether the team starts showing some growth. I think our team is playing shit, and Strama has to take his share of the blame for that, but I also think Strama has the potential and needs time and patience.

Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling Moronatti thinks more like you in this regard... I saw a tweet today which qouted him as saying "We'll see" to the question about whether Strama will get sacked.... IMO that is such a stupid response. I fear for this club run by such a trigger happy president.

This same old shit again...


1 - Clearly there is a time where you have to sack a coach, or sacking a coach causes improvement in the team. Unless you insist we should have stuck with Mancini for the treble era? Or Liverpool shouldn't have sacked Dalglish?

2 - I want Strama out because I now feel, in light of recent evidence - specifically with his new signings - he doesn't have the ability to take this club any further. Ranieri's failures were caused by not having the players we requested. Strama has been backed more than any coach at Inter since Mourinho, and to be honest, for that, his failure is the most spectacular of any coach since Mourinho. Ranieri had very good reasons for failing - specifically the sale of Motta. Gasperini was a disaster but it was only 4 games, and again, no support. Benitez actually reasonably worked, given how injured his squad was. Leonardo worked very well.

Strama is the first guy since Mourinho who has had so much time, so many chances, so much backing, and resulted in such a failure.

3 - Great. He's a novice. Then why the fuck is he at Inter? I expected him to be a novice, but LEARN FAST on the job. He clearly isn't doing that, as Inter week-in week-out is significantly WORSE. You do not get 2-3 seasons of impunity, especially if you're a complete fucking novice. You talk about the coaching equivalent of Kovacic, great young players are that because they bring new ideas to the game, new interpretations, or fulfill roles in novel ways. Strama, sadly, has nothing novel or innovative about his game. Instead of calling him the coaching equivalent of Kovacic, why not try the coaching equivalent of someone like Dell'Agnello. Nothing novel, not going to make it, started off with a lot of potential but is quickly failing to deliver on it.


Sadly, the truth in our current position is that Strama is a detrimental effect at Inter now. His decisions are not just nothing decisions but actively hindering us. And for that alone, he deserves the sack.

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Also, Wenger can stay the fuck away from this club.

 

[Ismael]

Hhahahahahah i have to say i dont comment alot in here, but when I see something utterly stupid I do...

Inters biggest problem like always is.. things are not going well Sack the Coach... come on guys.. 3points from our target.. I remember when we gave strama a new contract, I was like I hope and I really hope we will give him time, No matter what happens.. No matter what.. Now right now when we are 3 point from our target You wanna sack him.. come on guys..

 

[.h.]

And how are we doing with that target? Because, right now, we're only 3 points off 4th because Lazio are fucking up alot. Its not like its our own brilliance that has propelled there - outside of the 7 match winning streak we are in relegation form. I trust Lazio to pull their shit together before I trust us to do it, at least Lazio have been decent at a point this season. We havent.

We are close to 3rd, close enough that another coach who is capable of delivering a decent short term job at Inter, and let him actually get that 3rd place we need so badly, rather than allowing us to continue our relegation form, not hit another win streak, and end up 10th or 13th.

 

[Wallace]

Who is there to replace Stramaccioni?

Maybe give Gasperini another chance? He's the 3-5-2/3-4-3 expert, and this time he'll have Palacio.

 

[.h.]

you know what actually pisses me off most of all?

its the fact that we dont look like a coherent team.


I wouldnt mind this as much if it looked like we had a game plan, an ability to assert ourselves, an ability to dominate opponents.

I would have a LOT of time for Strama to pull his shit together if he was capable of delivering a functioning team.

But, as my graphs show, we've gotten WORSE since the start of the season. Not BETTER. N4L has some nice stats comparing us to last season - but the basic is we have less possession, less shots, more goals conceded.


We dont even LOOK LIKE we have the potential to take this any further... we all know if we start winning again it's going to be troll wins, not a good solid win like we did vs Juventus.

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Who is there to replace Stramaccioni?

Maybe give Gasperini another chance? He's the 3-5-2/3-4-3 expert, and this time he'll have Palacio.

well, to point out, a serie a manager can only manage one side a season.

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I'd be interested, though, in seeing a younger manager from Serie B who was 'forged in fire'.

Davide Nicola I'd be very interested in seeing, to be honest. 39 year old head coach of Livorno, he's made Luca Siligardi look like a very VERY good player, and taken them from 17th to now 2nd in the table.

 

[Ismael]

We have had alot off coaches since Mou.. and we are still in the same situation. i dont think it will help sacking strama. how about we try something new, for ones and stick to him.. have u seen how allegri is doing in milan now.. i swear if he worked for Inter he would have been long gone.... let us just try to stick to a coach for ones...maybe it will help like milan..

 

[Lionheart]

come on guys.. 3 points from our target...

We are only 3 points behind our target, not because of brilliant team performance & excellent results. We are 3 points behind, because the competition has been sucking dick pretty much along, leaving points here & there same as us.

When the whole bunch is sucking together, then you're right, we don't look that bad. But we shouldn't measure ourselves with regards to their performance.

 

[.h.]

DAVIDE NICOLA FOR MANAGER.

 

[Ismael]

so now u want a unknown coach again.. and after 10 games, we will see and article like this again.. typical inter and there fans i must say..

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Milan is catching us becous, inter and lazio both suck.. its not beacous they have kept faith in there coach and there players.. right...?? hahah ok..

 

[.h.]

so now u want a unknown coach again.. and after 10 games, we will see and article like this again.. typical inter and there fans i must say..

Wrong. Whoever we appoint now stays until the end of the season, minimum. I'm prepared to give a lot of faith to a manager, but it is important that over some time scale, he starts to develop his ideas and realizes how to implement them. As I said in Strama's thread
Stramaccioni now is not the same manager we appointed.

Everything is different. Last season he was expressive, we played with a lot of creative freedom, we played a good formation (even if we didnt really have the players for it), everything was perfect there - certainly more than justified the faith we placed in him.

Since then, its been a disaster. Our team has gotten significantly worse over the last few months, he's been backed like no other previous manager since Mourinho, and we show no signs of delivering a coherent team, game plan, or strategy.

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so now u want a unknown coach again.. and after 10 games, we will see and article like this again.. typical inter and there fans i must say..

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Milan is catching us becous, inter and lazio both suck.. its not beacous they have kept faith in there coach and there players.. right...?? hahah ok..

Ahh, time for the retarded milan example.



Milan is a very different thing. Allegri has delivered a functional team before - indeed a scudetto winning one, as one of the youngest managers to ever win the scudetto. He's clearly, on some level, "good enough". Milan sold pretty much half or more of their first team in the window, and predictably struggled for the first few weeks while Allegri understood his current squad, and made it more coherent.

Strama, however, has no evidence of ever being able to do that. He's not a scudetto winning coach, he's not a coach with a few years of experience in Serie B, he's not even a coach who has ever proven his ability to really implement a strategy to a top level team.



Whole different thing.