The Dark Knight Rises (Spoilers)

[Verathia]

yeah I agree that Joker is the best villain and The Dark Knight was the best in the trilogy. And I think that's what most people are citing as the reason they were disappointed (they were expecting too much). But really if you watch the film on its own without thinking about the other two, it's a great one.

In what trilogy has the third movie ever been the best?

Lord of the Rings.

(just my personal opinion, though all three were top notch, so each to his own)

 

[Lothar of the Hill People]

The thing about Bane is a lot of people think of the dumb character from the Schumacher film. In the Knightfall book, Bane planned things elaborately to have Batman/Bruce Wayne physically and mentally drained before Bane finishes him. Bane is no dummy in the comics.

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[Visca]

Lord of the Rings.

(just my personal opinion, though all three were top notch, so each to his own)

yeah you might be right, though that trilogy I really can't pick a fav.

But seriously...

Star Wars (originals because the prequels don't actually exist): Empire Strikes Back was best IMO
Spider-Man (Raimi trilogy): 1 and 2 were good, 3 was terrible
The Matrix: The first was amazing and then got progressively worse

So based on the above, and those are only a few examples, there's a hell of a lot of past history where the final movie of a trilogy was a letdown or at least not the strongest film. Perhaps people put Christopher Nolan on a higher pedestal though, I don't know.

 

[Lothar of the Hill People]

yeah you might be right, though that trilogy I really can't pick a fav.

But seriously...

Star Wars (originals because the prequels don't actually exist): Empire Strikes Back was best IMO
Spider-Man (Raimi trilogy): 1 and 2 were good, 3 was terrible
The Matrix: The first was amazing and then got progressively worse

So based on the above, and those are only a few examples, there's a hell of a lot of past history where the final movie of a trilogy was a letdown or at least not the strongest film. Perhaps people put Christopher Nolan on a higher pedestal though, I don't know.

Batman Begins does not get enough credit standing on its own. TDK and TDKR get too much credit if you ask me. BB when I first watched, I thought to myself, that is how Batman should be depicted.

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[chipschups]

already watched it,,
TDK with joker is so ridicilous made everyone had a high expectation for every nolan movie
and other movie will get a not quite good comment if they dont reach TDK level
is like watching maicon 2010 who's never reach that level again

for me Nolan is perfectly complete his trilogy very neat,,
ending with nolan stlye who had many point of view for viewers,, and lead for other character sequel,,
cant wait for anne hathaway catmowan movie,, fap,, fap,,

 

[Handoyo]

Batman Begins does not get enough credit standing on its own. TDK and TDKR get too much credit if you ask me. BB when I first watched, I thought to myself, that is how Batman should be depicted.

The Dark Knight - 10/10
Batman Begins - 9/10
The Dark Knight Rises - 8.5/10

If you ask me

 

[Jacquez]

I watched The Dark Knight Rises last night. I'm not a huge fan of the series, but I do admire Nolan's way of treating the original material that is essentially a comic. The Dark Knight was, to me, a very messy and uninteresting movie, carried solely by the menacing performance of Heath Ledger, who transferred the perhaps biggest antagonist from any comics and in turn created one of the most memorable characters in film history.

Batman Begins is the strongest movie of the two, I think. Bruce Wayne has the potential to become a very interesting character, and of the two films I really think this one shows it the best.

The first half of The Dark Knight Rises has the best material of the series. Tom Hardy is electrifying as Bane, once again we begin to engage ourselves more with the character Bruce Wayne, and we begin to question what his motivations for putting on the mask really are. Selina Kyle was not a particularly interesting character, but she brought a lot of cinematic gunpowder - something we've missed in the previous films.

Speaking of Bane, I was completely stunned by how well he was portrayed by Hardy and written by the Nolan's. The Joker was dangerous in his unpredictability and his spontaneous nature, and was only a threat to Batman because of this. Sure, he had certain plans and schemes, but I still say that he wasn't a great threat to Batman - alone in the fact that he does not want to kill him.

Bane is a threat - he is a huge threat. Physically, mentally and intellectually superior, Batman - let alone a crippled Bruce Wayne - could do nothing to stop him. The fight in the sewers between Bane and Batman really show this, and this was in my opinion the best scene of the entire trilogy. Well written, well filmed and well edited (something that can't be said of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight).

But then... it all goes bad. I was so annoyed by Bane's choice to harass Bruce Wayne, and postpone the destruction of Gotham, just so that he could 'torture his soul'. It is also somewhat unbelievable that a city of Gotham's size can be taken hostage by Bane, and being turned into some anarchistic dystopia where evil reigns under the excuse of fairness.
The whole return of the Batman was also annoying - as many have pointed out, how did he get from Africa to America without money, passport and other resources?

BUT THE WORST THING WAS THIS: Miranda Tate. She ruined it for me. So we find out, with 20 minutes to go, that, oh, by the way, it was Miranda Tate, who by the way happens to be the daughter of Ras al Ghul, who designed this giant scheme. Bane, you say? Muscle. He's solely a henchman. This was what I felt the movie said to me during that revelation scene (that was extremely poorly executed - the dialogue was way too expository and regardless of this, they still used flashbacks to underline what was going on..). Bane's death was so anticlimatic that I was frankly stunned - and the death of Talia cliché and horribly written.


Overall it was good entertainment. It was the only movie in the trilogy that really captured the 'darkness', and the first half of the film does this really well. But that nuclear-french revolution v2 plot really bothered me. Better than The Dark Knight, worse than Batman Begins. Overall not really a disappointment as such, but rather a less than enthusiasm provoking surprise.

 

[AxigZag.ESIOLAG.]

... but since I am not: they'll just write it off & find a way to blame Obama for it.

 

[santon48]

bismilah...gonna see this movie tomorrow insyaallah...expected a lot from christopher nolan...dude directed the prestige and awesome movie like memento....heheheheh...so excitedddd...

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yeah I agree that Joker is the best villain and The Dark Knight was the best in the trilogy. And I think that's what most people are citing as the reason they were disappointed (they were expecting too much). But really if you watch the film on its own without thinking about the other two, it's a great one.

In what trilogy has the third movie ever been the best?

- clear and present danger
- bourne ultimatum
- indiana jones (the one with sean connery)
- the new police story (jackie chan)
- toy story (the whole buzz light year spoke spanish scene made my day)
- a better tomorrow (chow yun fat...maybe)

actually hongkong film industry back in the 1970s produced many remarkable and awesome film...with actor like alexander fu sheng, david chiang, and ti lung...not so many trilogy, but if I'm not mistaken there's some awesome trilogy...and awesome movie too like david chiang's one armed swordman....

 

[sanka]

 

[Coasterfreek]

You'd think this thread would move to the "Movies" thread.

 

[Visca]

You'd think this thread would move to the "Movies" thread.

It's here so we can talk about it without having to use spoiler tags, since a lot of people haven't seen it yet.

 

[Coasterfreek]

It's here so we can talk about it without having to use spoiler tags, since a lot of people haven't seen it yet.

I know I'm a few days late.... but that shooting that happened in Colorado overshadows the headlines for me... ugh. I should see the movie sometime this week. (Just got back from a trip).

 

[AxigZag.ESIOLAG.]

Lord of the Rings.

(just my personal opinion, though all three were top notch, so each to his own)

I thought Bourne Ultimatum was pretty bad ass too.

 

[Verathia]

True. All the Bourne movies were absurdly good... and the third was the best.

 

[mrbob]

BUT THE WORST THING WAS THIS: Miranda Tate. She ruined it for me. So we find out, with 20 minutes to go, that, oh, by the way, it was Miranda Tate, who by the way happens to be the daughter of Ras al Ghul, who designed this giant scheme. Bane, you say? Muscle. He's solely a henchman. This was what I felt the movie said to me during that revelation scene (that was extremely poorly executed - the dialogue was way too expository and regardless of this, they still used flashbacks to underline what was going on..). Bane's death was so anticlimatic that I was frankly stunned - and the death of Talia cliché and horribly written.

I'm agree with you. The fact that it was Miranda all along is very predictable, as its impossible that Marion did not play a significant role on the movie.

Not to mention the scene when Talia dying on the truck while gordon, batman and catwoman made a line like boy scout to watch her died is very very weak..

The rest of it, especially on the batman-bane first fight, is dashing.

Btw you forgot to mention remarkable acting from Joseph Gordeon Levitt, and of course, Michael Caine.

 

[Pharaoh]

I just got to seeing this today and went through this thread finally and man I couldn't disagree with you more Han


This movie was spectacular, I like you, didn't think anybody could ever live up to Ledger's Joker but Hardy played Bane PERFECTLY. Like it was utter perfection, truly. The script and the vocabulary used in his monologues was impeccable and gripping. The inclusion of Catwoman was by far my favorite addition to the movie and they picked the perfect actor in Anne Hathaway.

The portion of the movie where Bale is in the prison is quite stunning. The explanation of why this prison is the harshest (because of the sense of hope at the light from the top), just adds to the story. And just like the Joker, Bane is not stopping for any sort of corky organized crime, but rather he and Joker just want to watch the world burn

Well I gotta mention it again, as you said Anne Hathaway was :horny:

 

[William]

Great end to nolans trilogy!!!!

 

[Raul Duke]

What the STD-infested fuck was that fight scene between the cops and the prisoners at the end? Even though both sides were armed, they just ran in melee ranged and started playing fisty cuffs, with Batman and Bane standing in the middle of a few thousand armed men talking. Fuck that.

Apart from that and a few other small things, the film was still enjoyable

 

[Cal]

Anne Hathaway was :horny:

This

but i prefer anna hathaway than scarlet johansen , drool.......

this movie would never be better than the second, except the catwoman obdeviously.

Catwoman is very likeable

cant wait for anne hathaway catmowan movie,, fap,, fap,,

Not to mention the scene when Talia dying on the truck while gordon, batman and catwoman made a line like boy scout to watch her died is very very weak..

they picked the perfect actor in Anne Hathaway.

Well I gotta mention it again, as you said Anne Hathaway was :horny:

Right, time to lay my cards on the table, ive been dropping in every now and then and..

THREE FUCKING PAGES AND STILL NO HORNY PICS!!!!!