Summer Transfers!

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I was wondering what everyone though of this year transfers as usual we were busy but so was every other big club in Italy..

i was wondering how u guys felt about our transfer strategy v/s the strategy we used in the last couple of year

and how efficent were we when we compair our work in the transfer market compared to clubs Like Juventus, Milan Parma Fiorentia Roma Lazio

it would be nice for Inter fans like me who dont get to watch inter games anymore if someone could make a table rating the best and the worst clubs on the transfer market in Italy ( only the big clubs pls)

thankx :)
 

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I only talk about the big 3 because I think these clubs will compete for il Scudetto.

Milan 9/10 But it´s relative since they didn´t need that much change...
Inter 8/10
Juventus 7/10

Good signings: Stam, Davids, Burdisso, Emerson, Ibrahimovic, Gamarra, Favalli, Cambiasso, Ze Maria, Crespo and Kapo.

Bad signings: Miha, Dhorasoo, Choutos and Zebina.

Did I leave someone out? ;)
 

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Well I have done a some work and information(I am aware Lazio isn;t that big anymore) -

The big teams -

Juventus -

They have only sold 1 big player in Miccoli and with Ibrahimovic and Cannavaro,improved their defense and attack.Same old Moggi,tight not skint!

In:
Cannavaro
Ibrahimovic
Emerson
Kapo
Zebina
Blasi
Chiellini
Volpato
Cappello(m)

Out:
Chiumento
Boudianski
Di Vaio
Maresca
Brighi
Onwuachi
Carini
Miccoli
Baiocco
Chiellini

Milan -

Just 3 major reinforcements in Dhorasoo,Crespo and Stam.Not really changed and apart from them 3 have made other minor changes.

In:
Stam
Dhorasoo
Sarr
Aubameyang
Crespo

Out:
Laursen
Borriello

Roma -

Well despite some high profiles sales to other clubs,captain Totti has stayed and they have bought some good players to accompany him.

In:
Cufre
Guigou
Sartor
Aquilani
Ferronetti
Bovo
Brighi
Ferrari
Perrotta
Mido

Out:
Samuel
Carew
Zebina
Lima
Wahab
Guigou
Lupatelli
Emerson

Lazio -

Have bought in over 10 players this summer and have sold quite a few too,while struggle a lot compared to last season!

In:
Esteban Gonzalez
Jose Leanardo Talamonti
Miguel Angel Mea
Bryan Robert
Sebastiano Siviglia
Antony Seric
Tommaso Rocchi
Antonio Filippini
Emmanuele Filipini
Di Canio
Pandev
D.Baggio
Manfredini
Lopez
Caso(m)

Out:
Stam
Favalli
Fiore
Corradi
Colonnese
Albertini
C.Lopez
Mihajlovic

Inter -

With a new motto,more quality,less price Inter have made few errors in this years transfer market.Of course there are always a few!

In:
Davids
Cambiasso
Favalli
Veron
Ventola
Burdisso
Choutos
Mihajlovic
Ze Maria
Carini
Rebecchi

Out:
Brechet
Okan
Dalmat
Biava
Moreau
Kallon
Helveg
Almeyda
Farinos
Adani
Cannavaro
Ventola
Zicu
Lamouchi
Sorondo

Club.....Players in.....Players out.....Total.....Good/bad?
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Juventus.............8.............10.............-2.............Bad
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Milan.............5................2..............+3...............Good
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Roma.............10.............8.............+2................Good/Bad
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Lazio.............14..............8..............+6...............Bad
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Inter.............11..............15.............-4...............Good
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There you have it so my table from last to first in positions is:

5th.Lazio
4th.Juventus
3rd.Roma
2nd.Inter
1st.Milan

Milan win as they had most continuity!:(

Oh well,this could even go on Only Inter comparing the clubs for the beginning of the season! :)

Fabio :star:
 

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Well Juve's transfer market was actually good (even though Di Vaio and Miccoli are great players, better than Zlatan). But getting Emerson and Cannavaro were outstanding transfers. Emerson is actually the best signing of the whole summer anywhere (maybe Samuel to Real comes close). Juve will be very strong next season.
 

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So I figure Davids was not in contention?
 

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I wouldn;'t call Cannavaros transfer as outstanding and Miccoli,DI Vaio and Davids last season were big losses! :rolleyes:

Fabio :star:
 

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Well the transfer didn't go so well mostly because of Cannavaro to Gobbi. Well before the transfer window opend I had a list of players that I thought would be great...here it is

GK: Frey, I wonted him because he had a great season while Toldo was huge disapointment. But we ended up with Carini

CB: Cavalho or W.Samuel. We got Mihajlovic and Burdisso instead and got rid of Adani and Cannavaro stupid deal.

LB: I didn't have a name but I defently wonted one, simply because Coco was injured all the time and Pasquale yeah he is to unstabel. Inter braught Favalli not what I had in my mind.

CM: Emerson, no reason to tell u why. We got Davids and Cambiasso instead. Good deal but I will still prefer Emereson.

RW: Joaquin an awsome player one of the best on that position. But we got Ze Maria instead, this was defently not what I wonted, but after all this is better then AVM.

So we ended up with no one from my list. :depress: man I'm disapointed.

And no Veron was not on my list. Simply because we had Emre.

Line up

-----------------Frey(24)----------------
J.zanetti(31)-W.Samuel(26)-Cordoba(28)-????
Joaquin(23)-Emerson(28)-Emre(23)-Stankovic(25)
----------Adriano(22)-Martins(19)----------
 

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Well I'm happy with our market , only a shame we spoiled it on the last day .

Don't forget we spent a lot of money in the winter for two players who give the impression of our two BEST players .

Wer'e safe in goal , the great Toldo is in good form and we have Cordaz and Fontana(Carini will probably be loaned) .

However I don't belive Carini will ever be our first goalkeeper , I think and hope we will get Timo Hildebrand or Sebastien Frey next season .
In the defence we got ourselves a great defender with Burdisso , trust me .

We got Mihajlovic who was in the first 11 for Lazio , so he is probably good enough to be a back up after Materazzi Cordoba Burdisso and Gamarra .

It's a shame we have released Adani , a good solid defender who has passion for Inter .

To have released Gamarra might have a good effect , now he knows he must be great because the aim is on him , although I think he was always great for us .

I'm sad about the loss of Cannavaro , I mean we surely could have sold him to Real for a lot of money , he was just getting his form back in the end of the season and in the Euro 2004 .

About the transfer of Brechet to sociedad which got us some money and about the release of Helveg who is even in Norwich the worst player , all I have to say is thank you Mancini Facchetti Oriali and Branca .

Favalli might no be world class but he sure is better than Brechet .
Now Ze Maria is a different story , he's awesome ! he has amazing long shots and free kicks and crosses the most into to box in the Serie A , MUCH better than Helveg .

In midfield we have got great players for free :

Edgar Davids , a world class DM very aggresive , doesn't give the opponents any space and also has got good crosses and ball control .
Esteban Cambiasso , a talented and very intelligent midfielder , can be a much better back up than Farinos .

Juan Veron , a great playmaker with very good anticipation , passes and long shot , is rated as the best midfielder in the world by some famous managers .

For the LW position we got our very talented Mario Rebecchi as a back up and kept Kily .
Kily might have not lived up to the expectations in his first season , but he was not played in his position , instead he was played as a LWB , parallel to Capitano , in Mancini's system the LW is very offensive and dangerous so expect the real Kily to star .

We also got rid of Buruk Okan who agreed to tear his contract so we don't have to pay his wages .


In attack we have sold a good player who we do not need , Mohammed Kallon for 5 million euro , a good deal .
We got a greek player called Lambros Choutos , his objective is still unknown , he might be used as a part of a deal .

Loan deals have been very good to us , we got Juan Veron who I mentioned earlier and we got rid of unneeded players who were probably also damaging the club atmosphere because they didn't get to play :
Nicola Ventola and Gonzalo Sorondo to Crystal Palace , Sabri Lamouchi to Genoa , Francisco Farinos to Mallorca , Stephane Dalmat to Toulouse .


We also loaned out some youngsters :
Mathieu Moreau and Fabrizio Biava are now with their old Primavera coach Corrado Verdelli in Ternana ,while Alessandro Potenza and Ianis Zicu stay in Parma for another season .

And last but not least , the manager :

We have released Alberto Zaccheroni , an old styled manager with pathetic defensive abilities IMO and we got Roberto Mancini , a modern manager like Arsene Wenger for example who likes to play dynamic spectacular football and to win with style , the difference is , Cuper or Zac are managers who try not to lose while Mancini is the type of manager who will go for the win at any price .


The main idea is , we are a much stronger , more united and probably consistent team , just look at the difference :

In Out
Favalli Brechet stronger
Ze Maria Helveg much stronger
Cambiasso Farinos stronger
Davids Almeyda much stronger
Veron Okan much stronger
Burdisso Cannavaro weaker
Mihajlovic Adani a little bit weaker
Choutos Kallon weaker
Rebecchi
Beati in the team Lamouchi the same
Mancini Zac stronger



Choutos and Mihajlovic will probably not play a lot anyway so the difference is very small , Burdisso is great and yound , while we sold Juve a 31 old defender who suffers from a very bad injury .
 

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Javier Zanetti said:
Well I'm happy with our market , only a shame we spoiled it on the last day .

Don't forget we spent a lot of money in the winter for two players who give the impression of our two BEST players .

Wer'e safe in goal , the great Toldo is in good form and we have Cordaz and Fontana(Carini will probably be loaned) .

However I don't belive Carini will ever be our first goalkeeper , I think and hope we will get Timo Hildebrand or Sebastien Frey next season .
In the defence we got ourselves a great defender with Burdisso , trust me .

We got Mihajlovic who was in the first 11 for Lazio , so he is probably good enough to be a back up after Materazzi Cordoba Burdisso and Gamarra .

It's a shame we have released Adani , a good solid defender who has passion for Inter .

To have released Gamarra might have a good effect , now he knows he must be great because the aim is on him , although I think he was always great for us .

I'm sad about the loss of Cannavaro , I mean we surely could have sold him to Real for a lot of money , he was just getting his form back in the end of the season and in the Euro 2004 .

About the transfer of Brechet to sociedad which got us some money and about the release of Helveg who is even in Norwich the worst player , all I have to say is thank you Mancini Facchetti Oriali and Branca .

Favalli might no be world class but he sure is better than Brechet .
Now Ze Maria is a different story , he's awesome ! he has amazing long shots and free kicks and crosses the most into to box in the Serie A , MUCH better than Helveg .

In midfield we have got great players for free :

Edgar Davids , a world class DM very aggresive , doesn't give the opponents any space and also has got good crosses and ball control .
Esteban Cambiasso , a talented and very intelligent midfielder , can be a much better back up than Farinos .

Juan Veron , a great playmaker with very good anticipation , passes and long shot , is rated as the best midfielder in the world by some famous managers .

For the LW position we got our very talented Mario Rebecchi as a back up and kept Kily .
Kily might have not lived up to the expectations in his first season , but he was not played in his position , instead he was played as a LWB , parallel to Capitano , in Mancini's system the LW is very offensive and dangerous so expect the real Kily to star .

We also got rid of Buruk Okan who agreed to tear his contract so we don't have to pay his wages .


In attack we have sold a good player who we do not need , Mohammed Kallon for 5 million euro , a good deal .
We got a greek player called Lambros Choutos , his objective is still unknown , he might be used as a part of a deal .

Loan deals have been very good to us , we got Juan Veron who I mentioned earlier and we got rid of unneeded players who were probably also damaging the club atmosphere because they didn't get to play :
Nicola Ventola and Gonzalo Sorondo to Crystal Palace , Sabri Lamouchi to Genoa , Francisco Farinos to Mallorca , Stephane Dalmat to Toulouse .


We also loaned out some youngsters :
Mathieu Moreau and Fabrizio Biava are now with their old Primavera coach Corrado Verdelli in Ternana ,while Alessandro Potenza and Ianis Zicu stay in Parma for another season .

And last but not least , the manager :

We have released Alberto Zaccheroni , an old styled manager with pathetic defensive abilities IMO and we got Roberto Mancini , a modern manager like Arsene Wenger for example who likes to play dynamic spectacular football and to win with style , the difference is , Cuper or Zac are managers who try not to lose while Mancini is the type of manager who will go for the win at any price .


The main idea is , we are a much stronger , more united and probably consistent team , just look at the difference :

In Out
Favalli Brechet stronger
Ze Maria Helveg much stronger
Cambiasso Farinos stronger
Davids Almeyda much stronger
Veron Okan much stronger
Burdisso Cannavaro weaker
Mihajlovic Adani a little bit weaker
Choutos Kallon weaker
Rebecchi
Beati in the team Lamouchi the same
Mancini Zac stronger



Choutos and Mihajlovic will probably not play a lot anyway so the difference is very small , Burdisso is great and yound , while we sold Juve a 31 old defender who suffers from a very bad injury .

Superb analysis...couldn't agree more :D .

What i like about our Transfer plan this year that we offloaded the garbage that weren't used or not in a calibre of Inter like Helveg , Brechet , Okan , Lamouchi and Farinos and that we also Kept Vieri , Vdm (that i like ) and kily whom i expect to have a good season next year , not only this but the adding of DAvids , Veron , Burdisso , Ze maria was like a dream for me .

We also got rid of Dalmat who i used to like , sorondo , ventola , kallon However what i don't like is the departure of Canna and Adani but i acceped it already so Good Job Inter .

The best thing is that We acquired a hell of a great , young Coach in Mancio who will change alot of things in Inter , Pace , one touch football , ambition , winning mentality , spectacular display with entertainment something that i really lacked and got offended when they used to call Inter the most boring club who wins by luck at Cuper's Days not only this but Consistency of the team as for the manager whom i expect to return to Inter to Il Grande inter and remain for inter for a minimum of 3 years .
 

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I agree on the moste of your point, we have made some awesome signings, and we have done it for for very few money. But still some of our signings where unesecary. And still some of the player I would have preferd some younger players, who allredy have proved there worth.

And I don't agree that Veron was a good signing, he is one of the players who we didn't need. As you all now we have one of the biggest AM talents in the world, so there were absalutly no reason to bring Veron to the club.

Maybe Ze Maria, Favalli and Davids are good signings but there are all over 30 years. They can't last forever. I would wish that the manegment could see more then 2 year ahead. Then they would realise that we will have to buy a total new team again in a 2 years time...If we have braught in some young players, then we didn't need to buy many players the next 5 to 6 years.
 

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So in other words you rather have talented Emre to maybe shine than Veron who has bigger chance of shining? ;)
 

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Yep..You got that right...And there is just a big posability that Emre will shine to use your word then Veron, remember that Veron have played like crap, actualy that is to good a word. the last 3 years. Wheil Emre has not. Can you remember the 02-03 season he was our best midfielder. and he was only 21-22 at that time.
 

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You´re forgetting how he played recently with those fitness problems. But hey without those I´m with you.

In fact I was sceptical about getting Veron. I only rated it 5/10 but it seems we can change that to 10/10. IMO.
 

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It's easy to rate our summer now:

Veron: neutral
Davids: -
Burdisso: neural
Favalli: neutral
Cambiasso: +
Ze Maria: +
Choutos: --
Mihajlovic: --
 

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oba said:
It's easy to rate our summer now:

Veron: neutral
Davids: -
Burdisso: neural
Favalli: neutral
Cambiasso: +
Ze Maria: +
Choutos: --
Mihajlovic: --

And in my view it would be something like this:

Veron: Good (Not that good, but not bad either)
Davids: Neutral (He hasn't been given that much chances yet)
Burdisso: V.Good (The way he has performed in few games)
Favalli: Good
Cambiasso: V.Good (Uptil now, he is doing very well. Lets see how the seaoson ends for him)
Ze Maria: Good
Choutos: Bad, coz we didn't need him.
Mihajlovic: Bad, coz same as above

;)
 

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Veron: I have been impressed - and he can still improve
Davids: - Neutral
Burdisso: Very good,very impressive and he could be a great...
Favalli: Decent and solid - nothing more
Cambiasso: Read Burdisso
Ze Maria: He has played well and badly
Choutos: - No comment
Mihajlovic: - Back up and nothing else!

Fabio :)
 

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Veron: He's been more bad than good. We have to demand more from player who is supposed to be our game's brains. In addition, stupid to base our game on loan player.
Davids: Hasn't got so much chances but has been far from good when have played.
Burdisso: So far has been quite good, secure central defender.
Favalli: Decent.
Cambiasso: This guy is very good though playing with Veron is still occasionaly hard for him defensively.
Ze Maria: Quite good and versatile in right flank.
Choutos: Haven't seen him.
Mihajlovic: Hasn't played much. Too slow. Good set-pieces, far better than Veron's for example.
 

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Burdisso :thumbsup:
Favalli (undecided)
Cambiasso :thumbsup:
Davids :thumbsup:
Veron :thumbsup:
Choutos (we don´t know the plans) :confused:
Mihajlovic :thumbsdo:
Ze Maria :thumbsup:
Carini (undecided)
 
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