Simone Inzaghi

Will Simone Inzaghi win a Scudetto at Inter?


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You can't know how we would have played and how City would have played if Lukaku had started. We cannot make the comparison you are making. Lukaku came in at around 60min mark. Game is at different state at that point when fresh Lukaku comes in compared to if he's there from minute 1.

Saying it's a fuckup is quite a statement given before the match we all can agree it would be a great result if we manage to get to half time with 0 goals conceded. Consider that having Dzeko there actually helped achieving that?

Game lasts 90mins and coach needs to plan for the whole time, and in this case actually to even 120mins and pens.

I won't let this one slip that starting Dzeko was some kind of a fuckup. It was a good move which worked well for us.
 

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You can't know how we would have played and how City would have played if Lukaku had started. We cannot make the comparison you are making. Lukaku came in at around 60min mark. Game is at different state at that point when fresh Lukaku comes in compared to if he's there from minute 1.

Saying it's a fuckup is quite a statement given before the match we all can agree it would be a great result if we manage to get to half time with 0 goals conceded. Consider that having Dzeko there actually helped achieving that?

Game lasts 90mins and coach needs to plan for the whole time, and in this case actually to even 120mins and pens.

I won't let this one slip that starting Dzeko was some kind of a fuckup. It was a good move which worked well for us.
Well it was 0 0 when Flopkaku came in. So we had an active and positive result when he came in. His comparision or theory sucks pretty hard.
 

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You can't know how we would have played and how City would have played if Lukaku had started. We cannot make the comparison you are making. Lukaku came in at around 60min mark. Game is at different state at that point when fresh Lukaku comes in compared to if he's there from minute 1.

Yeah, I agree. We will never know how it would have played out if Lukaku had started. There's probably a world where Lukaku starts and we lose 70-0 because of his fuck ups, for example. What we do know is that with Dzeko on the pitch we created very little attacking threat, and we dropped a player who was arguably in one of the best forms in Europe as a striker for someone who was in pretty mediocre form at best.

Saying it's a fuckup is quite a statement given before the match we all can agree it would be a great result if we manage to get to half time with 0 goals conceded. Consider that having Dzeko there actually helped achieving that?

Game lasts 90mins and coach needs to plan for the whole time, and in this case actually to even 120mins and pens.

I won't let this one slip that starting Dzeko was some kind of a fuckup. It was a good move which worked well for us.

One of my objections to the point here - which is a point I made even *before* the match, is that Dzeko didnt have it in him. You should not be playing ANYONE in a CL FINAL of all games who you believe will be gassed by 50 minutes in, and Dzeko clearly was.



I dont have the specific stats, but from what I remember, Lukaku in 33 minutes crated more chances than Dzeko did while he played. Yes, he also made a huge fuck up, and yes - despite allegedly being a lukaku fan boy, I completely 100% blame him for missing the header - but at least we were creating chances!

Inzaghi broke up what was then the (??) most prolific strike pairing in Europe in Lautaro-Lukaku, to then play Lautaro-Dzeko. I'd love to see some data on the goals per 90 min for Lautaro-Dzeko vs Lukaku-Lautaro, for example, but as you say... the result speaks for itself. And the result says we didnt score any goals


You're fundamentally correct that its all speculation and uncertainty, but for me personally if I was Inzaghi, i'd question whether benching Lukaku in the best form he'd been in for 2+ years for a striker who can barely walk for 55 minutes let alone run for 55 minutes, and scored 4 goals in the entire calendar year, was a good idea. I think, and will always think, it was a massive fuck up from him.




To stress again, yeah, we could have lost worst without Dzeko. We will never know. But I said a week before the game, before the game, during the game, and after the game, I personally would rather have seen Lukaku start.


Fundamentally, too, I cant get past the fact that we started someone who was barely capable of playing 50 minutes in a CL final. That's just stupid. If it was someone like, say, Lautaro or Barella, I'd be fine with it, but to pull your best performing striker who had 12? goals in the calendar year despite having missed like 50% of it with injury for a guy who has basically played the full calendar year and only scored 4 goals, in a game where we ultimately failed to create enough chances to win, speaks for itself.
 

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Who cares about fucking stats and creating chances. Facts are: they scored a winning and only goal when Lukaku was in, not Dzeko,
-Lukaku blocked Dimarco shot that was 80% going into goal,
-Lukaku missed a clear chance, that was a 1000% chance yet he somehow managed to shot into keeper.
To say that we lost cause he didnt start game is:
a) pure hatred toward Limone,
b) sucking Lukaku's dick,
c) idiotism.
Or all three.
Stop embarassing yourself.
 

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Who cares about fucking stats and creating chances. Facts are: they scored a winning and only goal when Lukaku was in, not Dzeko,
-Lukaku blocked Dimarco shot that was 80% going into goal,
-Lukaku missed a clear chance, that was a 1000% chance yet he somehow managed to shot into keeper.
To say that we lost cause he didnt start game is:
a) pure hatred toward Limone,
b) sucking Lukaku's dick,
c) idiotism.
Or all three.
Stop embarassing yourself.
While I support Inzaghi's choice to start Džeko, this is ludicrous. Lukaku has nothing to do with the fact that City scored. He does have a lot to do with the fact that we didn't score, but he also at least made/had chances, that didn't happen every game at Inter that Lukaku createed ;)

And Dimarco wasn't scoring that one, but if Lukaku stood a step more to the outside of the goal, he could've made another touch to divert the ball into goal, maybe?

While I dislike Lukaku and most of his performances last season, this is still a bit too much.
 

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Who cares about fucking stats and creating chances. Facts are: they scored a winning and only goal when Lukaku was in, not Dzeko,
-Lukaku blocked Dimarco shot that was 80% going into goal,
-Lukaku missed a clear chance, that was a 1000% chance yet he somehow managed to shot into keeper.
To say that we lost cause he didnt start game is:
a) pure hatred toward Limone,
b) sucking Lukaku's dick,
c) idiotism.
Or all three.
Stop embarassing yourself.
We didn't lost because of that, but his point is that we would have had better chances created till 60 min if Lukaka started instead of Dzeko.
 
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Too many ifs, there’s no guarantee City played the same if Lukaku starting, they might press harder or we can hold ball better in their side. One thing we can argue is should Lukaku come in earlier, even after halftime.
 

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While I support Inzaghi's choice to start Džeko, this is ludicrous. Lukaku has nothing to do with the fact that City scored. He does have a lot to do with the fact that we didn't score, but he also at least made/had chances, that didn't happen every game at Inter that Lukaku createed ;)

And Dimarco wasn't scoring that one, but if Lukaku stood a step more to the outside of the goal, he could've made another touch to divert the ball into goal, maybe?

While I dislike Lukaku and most of his performances last season, this is still a bit too much.
Too much? Tell me who is more to blame why we lost, Lukaku or Dzeko?
 

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I blame City having too much cash and UEFA not having the balls to do anything real about it.
 

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I blame City having too much cash and UEFA not having the balls to do anything real about it.
O cmon man, cut the crap, you know who is more to blame. Everyone knows, except Flopkaku fanboys.
 

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Our team got worse last summer, while their team got better and they were better than us already at that time. Everybody expected us to lose by a big margin, but we did pretty good against them.

I don't think we should dwell too much on the loss and who is at fault. That's what losers do. Our squad is full of winners (Serie A winners, EURO winners, Copa America winners, World Cup winner) and they know that winning CL is doable.

Our players knowing that is good enough for me, for now. As long as we stay competitive, that's all I need. We will either win or we won't, but if we aren't competitive, we will have no chance.


We can be caught in a neverending cycle of who to blame. Blame Zhang for making stupid financial decisions that fucked us in the long run for every transfer window. Blame Marotta and co. for not maximizing in all opportunities and not getting certain players when we had a clear choice/chance. Blame Inzaghi for giving certain players a first team spot or not subbing off the right player. Blame players for playing under their optimal level or having bad fitness levels. Blame blame blame.

But blaming left and right isn't constructive enough. There are levels to this shit of running a football club. I know I can only be happy that we are at the level we are. That is why I don't want to engage this debates who should've started in the CL final, all that matters is that Inter have learned something from the loss and stay competitive, no matter of our financial state.
 

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We didn't lost because of that, but his point is that we would have had better chances created till 60 min if Lukaka started instead of Dzeko.
How do you know that? If that's all he could do when City's defenders were gassed up, I don't imagine he could have done better.
 

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How do you know that? If that's all he could do when City's defenders were gassed up, I don't imagine he could have done better.
It based on the current form and the understanding between LuLa. They were great duo in the last games of the season, while Dzeko obviously was already bad. He had his spark early in the season, but at the end he was done. And as it was mentioned earlier, with Lukaka on the pitch we created much more for 30min than with Dzeko for 60.
 

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How do you know that? If that's all he could do when City's defenders were gassed up, I don't imagine he could have done better.
well its hardly like they were tired, they had fuck all to do for the first half lmao
 

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It based on the current form and the understanding between LuLa. They were great duo in the last games of the season, while Dzeko obviously was already bad. He had his spark early in the season, but at the end he was done. And as it was mentioned earlier, with Lukaka on the pitch we created much more for 30min than with Dzeko for 60.
We created more? And what did we got of that? Whole world laughed at Flopkaku. And you think he should start? After everything that happened in that game? Lol
 

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The point is that we had chances and that the plan was to hold the result with Džeko as an anchor in attack and then unleash LaLu upon City. Worked good except for Lukaku going full Higuain again when in the box. Everything else Lukaku looked good enough to me.

So to me, it still made sense to start Džeko and bring on Lukaku after in the second half. If we scored and we went into extra time, I'd rather see Lukaku playing than Džeko, who can't do more than 60 minutes in multiple consecutive games, understandably so.
 

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The point is that we had chances and that the plan was to hold the result with Džeko as an anchor in attack and then unleash LaLu upon City. Worked good except for Lukaku going full Higuain again when in the box. Everything else Lukaku looked good enough to me.

So to me, it still made sense to start Džeko and bring on Lukaku after in the second half. If we scored and we went into extra time, I'd rather see Lukaku playing than Džeko, who can't do more than 60 minutes in multiple consecutive games, understandably so.
So do you think we lost final cause Limone didnt start Flopkaku?
 

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No. I believe we lost the final because City is just a better team with a better bench than us. If we had the same amount of money and kept certain players like Hakimi, Perišić, etc., we would play even better against them.

Just Hakimi instead of Dumfries would be a huge boost.
 

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In a different world where Inter has at least half of the money City, PSG and Real have, seeing how Inter built this squad in the last 5 seasons, we would easily be a top5 team in the world. Other teams are lucky we don't have the same possibilities as they do.
 

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well its hardly like they were tired, they had fuck all to do for the first half lmao
Lol looks like you didn't watch the game or don't understand how it works. We didn't totally press them in the first half so they were totally fresh until Mr.90 came in
 
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