Samir Handanovic

[NeonBlade]

See I would argue that the shot was almost straight at him, from his standing position all he had to do is fall to the correct side with his hands a bit out. Didn’t feel he had to do a great deal.

Definitely an important save but one we’d be expecting he make.

Except

(1) Handanovic was going in the opposite direction before Chiesa hit the ball

and

(2) He saved it with one hand and didn't palm it directly back into traffic.

C'mon bro...

 

[Kova10]

It was a fantastic save from a Top 3 Serie A Keeper, but it was not a save of the season contender. Doesn't even matter, let's enjoy him while we have him.

@brehme: I'd recommend you to watch that Julione save from behind Messi. That perspective shows what the guy actually did there.

 

[Devious]

His save by the end was inspiring, good to see he had his form in check in a derby, hope he keeps it up, normally he’d stand there watching it go in.

 

[brehme1989]

People really need perspective on goalkeeping because they honestly keep saying what sounds like the thickest shit....

Here is Handanovic's save:

You will notice that his arm is fully extended. That's as long as it can get.

That's though not the furthest Handanovic can reach on his right side. You can always reach further with your opposite arm. But obviously in such short notice and little distance, you do not have almost a full second to change your body's direction and in order to attempt to use the other one, so you pretty much have to go with that kind of move. Ball moving 10 centimeters further to the right of Handanovic and he'd need luck to parry it. 20cm or more to his right and it'd be unsavable.

Also notice that how important the height of the ball is. A bit lower and it cannot be stopped.

This is as close as Handa's view as we can get.

His feet are on the move so that left foot is not planted, but he was hastily trying to plant it so that he could go for the dive. Not an easy task to pull off in split seconds, which is partly why some [reflex] goalkeepers are better than others.

But what's important to see here is how Handanovic pretty much had to go full horizontal in order to stop that. This is less than half a second after he parries it:

And when you look at it from the camera, it doesn't seem so tough because it's "close" to him. That's exactly why he could stop it of course and exactly why he cannot even make a move when it's out of his reach or because he couldn't plant his foot in time to make the dive. Because it's out of his reach....


This isn't a shot you save everyday, that's the point. And it is one of the stops of the season.


P.S: Kova, the JC save was fantastic, but it also gets exaggerated because people assume that it was going to the corner, but it was actually curving inwards (which is what makes it a greater shot). Had it not make that bend, it would have gone in assuming it was still on target as JC could not have reached that. He was following the move of Messi as you can see, very good positioning and anticipation for the shot there, and his dive was great. But that shot was savable by most great goalkeepers and it is one to teach for goalkeeping fundamentals. That's what I'm saying. But it being a Messi shot in the CL semi makes it more spectacular than it is. It definitely is one of the most important saves ever, but I've seen Toldo have better ones for Inter in Europe (vs Valencia, vs Milan and so on)

The Chiesa strike should have been a goal on the other hand and Handanovic miraculously stopped that from happening.

Bonus:
[Youtube]d95u0qWoQpA[/youtube]

Ter Stegen jumping for that just looks silly. The ball is like 2 meters above his jump, going for the top corner of his far post. His fall when he doesn't even get close to the ball is ridiculous. There is no reason a goalkeeper should do this.

 

[William]

People really need perspective on goalkeeping because they honestly keep saying what sounds like the thickest shit....

Here is Handanovic's save:

You will notice that his arm is fully extended. That's as long as it can get.

That's though not the furthest Handanovic can reach on his right side. You can always reach further with your opposite arm. But obviously in such short notice and little distance, you do not have almost a full second to change your body's direction and in order to attempt to use the other one, so you pretty much have to go with that kind of move. Ball moving 10 centimeters further to the right of Handanovic and he'd need luck to parry it. 20cm or more to his right and it'd be unsavable.

Also notice that how important the height of the ball is. A bit lower and it cannot be stopped.

This is as close as Handa's view as we can get.

His feet are on the move so that left foot is not planted, but he was hastily trying to plant it so that he could go for the dive. Not an easy task to pull off in split seconds, which is partly why some [reflex] goalkeepers are better than others.

But what's important to see here is how Handanovic pretty much had to go full horizontal in order to stop that. This is less than half a second after he parries it:

And when you look at it from the camera, it doesn't seem so tough because it's "close" to him. That's exactly why he could stop it of course and exactly why he cannot even make a move when it's out of his reach or because he couldn't plant his foot in time to make the dive. Because it's out of his reach....


This isn't a shot you save everyday, that's the point. And it is one of the stops of the season.


P.S: Kova, the JC save was fantastic, but it also gets exaggerated because people assume that it was going to the corner, but it was actually curving inwards (which is what makes it a greater shot). Had it not make that bend, it would have gone in assuming it was still on target as JC could not have reached that. He was following the move of Messi as you can see, very good positioning and anticipation for the shot there, and his dive was great. But that shot was savable by most great goalkeepers and it is one to teach for goalkeeping fundamentals. That's what I'm saying. But it being a Messi shot in the CL semi makes it more spectacular than it is. It definitely is one of the most important saves ever, but I've seen Toldo have better ones for Inter in Europe (vs Valencia, vs Milan and so on)

The Chiesa strike should have been a goal on the other hand and Handanovic miraculously stopped that from happening.

Bonus:
[Youtube]d95u0qWoQpA[/youtube]

Ter Stegen jumping for that just looks silly. The ball is like 2 meters above his jump, going for the top corner of his far post. His fall when he doesn't even get close to the ball is ridiculous. There is no reason a goalkeeper should do this.

What I took from this...

Handa = God

JC = Made some ‘routine’ saves in the CL semis but is blown of proportion.

Your post actually reminded me a bit of my father in law. In lockdown hes been bored and/or restless so he gets fixated on things/ points of discussion and needs to break everything down to minute details when it’s not really required.

It’s a good save but again I’d expect him to make it even with your breakdown.

 

[brehme1989]

What I took from this...

Handa = God

JC = Made some ‘routine’ saves in the CL semis but is blown of proportion.

Your post actually reminded me a bit of my father in law. In lockdown hes been bored and/or restless so he gets fixated on things/ points of discussion and needs to break everything down to minute details when it’s not really required.

It’s a good save but again I’d expect him to make it even with your breakdown.

Thank you for making it obvious that you didn't read what I said.

 

[William]

Thank you for making it obvious that you didn't read what I said.

Oh sadly I read it all, it’s just there there’s nothing in your argument that convinces me differently.

 

[brehme1989]

Oh sadly I read it all, it’s just there there’s nothing in your argument that convinces me differently.

Yet you somehow alluded that I said that JC's save was a 'routine save'....

You either didn't read the post or failed to understand it. Take your pick.

 

[William]

Yet you somehow alluded that I said that JC's save was a 'routine save'....

You either didn't read the post or failed to understand it. Take your pick.

Clearly, I was being sarcastic/ overly dramatic when i said ‘routine’.

 

[Provenzano]

Samir Handanovic played his 497th game in Serie A, moving to 15th on the all-time appearance list in the Italian top flight.

 

[rfU]

Handa....

 

[I'mNewHere]

Lowkey worst player last decade.

 

[YoramG]

 

[Shark]

Bastoni: "Handa, I got this. For the love of god, go back"
Handanovic: "I AAAMM BAATTMAAANNN!"

 

[Jnr]

Its time to send him back to Udinese. He can be captain there.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Yeah Handa has no right charging out in that situation. Bastoni isn't blameless as he should have put it out of play but Handa coming out made it confusing for him.

You really expect better.

 

[Tamirk]

Bastoni: "Handa, I got this. For the love of god, go back"
Handanovic: "I AAAMM BAATTMAAANNN!"

For the love of god, why the fuck he came out of the goal in first place???????whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!, its make no fucking sense! bastoni 100% got the fucking ball and he even tell him with his hand leave it to him!

 

[alvaro]

"When you finally see Handanovic move - the only time he should have stayed put"

 

[Lui]

Bastoni knows he needs to smash that ball if there is even the slightest bit of hesitation

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[brehme1989]

They both fucked up but De Vrij giving the ball into space there was a teririble play.