Romelu Lukaku

[bubba zanetti]

115m meh, we should make more money from it. Fuck Chelski. So who is next?

 

[Harpsabu]

Lukaku haters trying to blame him for leaving, fuck off

This is the guy that drove around milano hanging out of his car waving an inter flag. We chased him. You can bet your balls that if we turned down the offer he wouldn't have caused any issues.

 

[tonyclifton]

Lukaku haters trying to blame him for leaving, fuck off

This is the guy that drove around milano hanging out of his car waving an inter flag. We chased him. You can bet your balls that if we turned down the offer he wouldn't have caused any issues.

Notice this too. Seems they are trying so hard to make fellow Inter supporters hate Lukaku. Forget it, Lukaku will be remembered fondly by most Inter fans and there's nothing you can do about that. Dude showed pride wearing the Inter colors. He ain't no fucking Icardi.

Lukaku wanting to leave is a no brainer. Chelsea offer him double of what he currently earns. It's no secret that we are broke as fuck too. This club clearly have no intention of building from last season's success. The hasty sale of Hakimi is proof of that. We are basically selling as many valuable assets as possible. Hakimi gone, Lukaku gone, Lautaro will most likely be gone too.

The only thing that we can hope for now is the budget replacements come good, or Inzaghi manages to bring the best out of the weakened squad at his disposal.

 

[brehme1989]

He makes 10m here, Chelsea offers 12m. How is that double?

 

[.h.]

Chelsea's reported 12m is net, rather than the UK-style reporting of gross.

12m euros a year net = 23m (call it) gross. Considering IIRC he makes 7? net now in Inter, it's near enough doubling.

If you look in English press, they're saying its £350k/week - that's 21.5million euros a year gross

 

[Il Drago]

Lol Maslany, it was clear both Hakimi and Lukaku wanted to stay, I'd rather think about how Martinez wants to leave

And yet Lautaro is the only one who's staying, till now. Ironic, isn't it?

Hakimi and Lukaku wanted to stay but since Inter were open to selling them they were willing to go to PSG and Chelsea respectively. On the other hand, Lautaro doesn't want to go to Tottenham and that's why he's staying.

 

[brehme1989]

Chelsea's reported 12m is net, rather than the UK-style reporting of gross.

12m euros a year net = 23m (call it) gross. Considering IIRC he makes 7? net now in Inter, it's near enough doubling.

If you look in English press, they're saying its £350k/week - that's 21.5million euros a year gross

He makes 9.5m + bonuses at Inter. Net.
It was 7.5m + 1.5m + bonuses in his first season.

And I'm not sure on this tax decree thing, it's going to be his third season in Italy.

 

[Gaindé]

It's fine if he wants to leave for money or to try to be relevant in Premier League again. He just didn't need to self proclaim king of Milan and act like he was never going to leave. This summer started with him going around on twitter stating how he is home in Milan and would never consider going back to Chelsea. I guess that's what some people criticize him for.

As far as I'm concerned I couldn't give a crap because I don't believe there are any Maldini or Zanetti left around and I was willing to sell him the day after Conte left.

 

[.h.]

Cafe posted a link on the tax decree a while ago - I was in the same boat as you (e.g. it expires after two years), but it was a misunderstanding

The terms for eligibility are that you haven't been tax resident in Italy for 2 consecutive tax years (which in Italy is the calendar year) - but you are eligible for the relief for 5 years (IIRC). Also, bear in mind, Lukaku will only have actually been tax resident in Italy now for his 2nd year - Italian tax residency (as far as I know - not an expert, please tell me if I'm wrong) requires majority of the tax year to be considered tax resident, he only joined Inter in August in 2019, so he wouldnt have been tax resident in the 2019 year, only 2020 and 2021?

I'm not aware of a pay raise, but if you say that's the case, then so be it.

 

[brehme1989]

If Hakimi was still around, everyone would have been ecstatic by this sale.

Now it just feels awkward.

As for the tax thing, 5 years is what I also thought but I keep stumbling upon new information and I stopped dealing with Italians since 2 years ago so I have zero first hand experience now with this issue.

 

[.h.]

yeah i'm not sure. I assumed it was 2 years too because of the eligibility. If it is 2 years, our wage bill is about to jump a bunch Eriksen will be 2 years tax resident in Jan, Sanchez will be too.. Obviously Hakimi and Lukaku leaving mitigate a bunch of that


Moreover, though, itll further fuck Juve with Ramsay/Rabiot

 

[Materazzi_23]

Maybe a stupid question but I always wondering what will happen with the payments and clauses we owe Manchester United? Will the clauses expire because Lukaku isn't a player of Inter anymore and therefore they are invalid and will the payments need to be paid by Inter with the transfer money we get for Lukaku? Will it be the same or do we have to pay it all in once now we transferred him? I have no clue how these things works.

 

[YoramG]

If Hakimi was still around, everyone would have been ecstatic by this sale.

Now it just feels awkward.

Yup, that’s exactly the issue.

 

[.h.]

Maybe a stupid question but I always wondering what will happen with the payments and clauses we owe Manchester United? Will the clauses expire because Lukaku isn't a player of Inter anymore and therefore they are invalid and will the payments need to be paid by Inter with the transfer money we get for Lukaku? Will it be the same or do we have to pay it all in once now we transferred him? I have no clue how these things works.

Payment schedules are generally not related to the underlying asset (or accounting treatment). If we agreed (for example) to pay 20m a year for 4 years, that'll still be true.

It's certainly possible, though, that a clause was drafted that if we transfer away the player we would have to pay the remaining balance in full immediately. I dont believe this would be typical, though. Bear in mind this is basically all about cashflow, and doesnt really impact FFP/etc. Clubs like United dont really need the cashflow, at the end of the day.

Bonus clauses will no longer be valid - e.g. it'll be if he wins the CL/Ballon d'Or/etc as a player while registered at Inter. Interestingly, this left Barca on the hook for some clauses to Liverpool because Coutinho was still a registered Barca player while on loan to Bayern. But if Lukaku goes and wins the CL next year with Chelsea, we don't have to pay any extra to United because of that.

 

[IM21]

He is currently carrying out the first part of the medicals at Columbus Clinic in Milan.

 

[brehme1989]

Poor guy will still be relegated to a side note in a record transfer with Messi making a move as well

 

[CafeCordoba]

Payment schedules are generally not related to the underlying asset (or accounting treatment). If we agreed (for example) to pay 20m a year for 4 years, that'll still be true.

It's certainly possible, though, that a clause was drafted that if we transfer away the player we would have to pay the remaining balance in full immediately. I dont believe this would be typical, though. Bear in mind this is basically all about cashflow, and doesnt really impact FFP/etc. Clubs like United dont really need the cashflow, at the end of the day.

Bonus clauses will no longer be valid - e.g. it'll be if he wins the CL/Ballon d'Or/etc as a player while registered at Inter. Interestingly, this left Barca on the hook for some clauses to Liverpool because Coutinho was still a registered Barca player while on loan to Bayern. But if Lukaku goes and wins the CL next year with Chelsea, we don't have to pay any extra to United because of that.

Precisely.

Inter owing United 50m€ or something over his transfer 2 years ago doesn't mean anything really. We pay them as agreed 2 years ago, in 5 years, meaning now we pay the rest in 3 years. Any bonuses will be paid aswell, dunno if they were paid immediately but I guess we find this out in financial results of Inter?

As for Lukaku's salary, his net salary was 7.5M + bonuses, and the base rising to 8.5M this season (if he stayed). So it's not double salary, but almost +50%. In Chelsea it is indeed 12M net + bonuses reaching to 15M.

As for the gross-net-taxreduction, I think tax reduction applies to players coming from abroad as long as they are at Italy for 2 years and it applies for that 5 years. So for example with Hakimi we didn't pay full taxes first, but then as he left early, we need to pay back more taxes now. Lukaku's 2 years will be full now as he arrived on 8th of August in 2019.

 

[.h.]

Hmm. I wonder re Hakimi, you know. I get what you're saying, but Italian tax year runs Jan-Dec, its *possible* since he joined Inter circa 2nd of July and left Inter 6th July he was here for two tax years. 2nd of July 2020 was a Thursday, and you probably count for the week I would guess? I'm not entirely sure.

There's a few days in it either way, but worth probably 3mil to Inter to get right

 

[CafeCordoba]

I don't believe it goes like that but I have no idea for real so can't tell.

Lukaku completed his medicals in Milano.

 

[.h.]

The eligibility for sure is done on italian tax years - which AFAIK runs Jan-Dec. I would guess the growth decree means you have to be obliged to stay in Italy for 2 tax years

You're a tax resident in Italy if you're there for more than 183 days of the calendar year.

I'm probably just clutching at straws - actually the 2nd of July to 31st Dec 2020 is 182 days, not 183