PC gaming

[Black Knight]

Edit: any suggestions for a new laptop? I don't need to play the high-end stuff, but something like the games mentioned above should not be a struggle. Maybe in the £600-900 range? Or is that laughable?

I decided I'm going to go for the Dell Inspiron 15 7559. Probably with an intel i7 and maybe add an SSD because it seems easy to upgrade. Does anyone have that model? Thoughts?

 

[Wobblz]

I decided I'm going to go for the Dell Inspiron 15 7559. Probably with an intel i7 and maybe add an SSD because it seems easy to upgrade. Does anyone have that model? Thoughts?

You just have to add an SSD, even if it's a small one just for the OS.

The HDD is the slowest component of any PC, so even if you buy a monstrously powerful PC it would still have to wait for the hard-drive.

 

[ScottishInterista]

You just have to add an SSD, even if it's a small one just for the OS.

The HDD is the slowest component of any PC, so even if you buy a monstrously powerful PC it would still have to wait for the hard-drive.

it really is, my pc has sped up tenfold since i got it

 

[Black Knight]

Great. Seems worth the price. I assume I'll have to have the windows cd to reinstall it on the SSD?

 

[Armes]

1. MacOS, which Apple computers use is the worst choice you can make for a gaming platform. Only a handful of games are available, on the top of my mind - Blizzard stuff. Stick to good 'ol Windows for that. For work, go with iMac - more reliable.

That simply is just not true. While PCs obviously are the better choice when it comes to gaming, most games are available for Mac. Developers can't afford to be that stupid and ignore Mac users anymore. And even if some of them are not, you can still play them fine through various options.

 

[Wobblz]

That simply is just not true. While PCs obviously are the better choice when it comes to gaming, most games are available for Mac. Developers can't afford to be that stupid and ignore Mac users anymore. And even if some of them are not, you can still play them fine through various options.

Well, no. It's not "simply not true", cause it is actually very much true. I get the wishful thinking, but please name me a couple of big game releases for Mac lately?

Maybe Battlefield 1, or FIFA 17? I can't think of any other games, cause I'm not that much of a gamer myself, but it's twice the work to either port or much better rewrite a game for MacOS architecture for an audience that's not really into that.

Anyway, still I'd be happy if you could provide me with a list of big name releases for the Mac.

About the other options, yeah it's very much possible, but what you gain in possibilities you lose in performance and you create yourself a lot of trouble for nothing. I mean, if you want to play games, get a PC, if you want to do serious work, get a Mac. Both can do both, but you know what I mean.

There's also Hackintosh for PCs, but it defeats the purpose really. Of all the software I know, I'd only use Sketch on a consistent basis that's not yet available for Windows. Maybe Adobe Xd when it's more usable, but they'll write it from scratch for Windows anyway.

 

[Ronin]

I decided I'm going to go for the Dell Inspiron 15 7559. Probably with an intel i7 and maybe add an SSD because it seems easy to upgrade. Does anyone have that model? Thoughts?

Looks decent. I have a 940m graphics card for my laptop and I can run most games.

That simply is just not true. While PCs obviously are the better choice when it comes to gaming, most games are available for Mac. Developers can't afford to be that stupid and ignore Mac users anymore. And even if some of them are not, you can still play them fine through various options.

There are more games than usual on Mac these days, yeah. But no where near the amount of games available for Windows. Not to mention the hardware limitations that Macs possess. They are like consoles.

 

[Armes]

Well, no. It's not "simply not true", cause it is actually very much true. I get the wishful thinking, but please name me a couple of big game releases for Mac lately?

Maybe Battlefield 1, or FIFA 17? I can't think of any other games, cause I'm not that much of a gamer myself, but it's twice the work to either port or much better rewrite a game for MacOS architecture for an audience that's not really into that.

Anyway, still I'd be happy if you could provide me with a list of big name releases for the Mac.

About the other options, yeah it's very much possible, but what you gain in possibilities you lose in performance and you create yourself a lot of trouble for nothing. I mean, if you want to play games, get a PC, if you want to do serious work, get a Mac. Both can do both, but you know what I mean.

There's also Hackintosh for PCs, but it defeats the purpose really. Of all the software I know, I'd only use Sketch on a consistent basis that's not yet available for Windows. Maybe Adobe Xd when it's more usable, but they'll write it from scratch for Windows anyway.

Wishful thinking? http://macgames-download.com/ here are just some of the recently cracked ones... for everything else, have a look at the app store, or steam. I'm not even going to debate this anymore, because I don't know what to tell you when you say name me some big releases... I guess you're still under the impression that Mac users can only play Mac Chess.

As for the other options, I think you're thinking of Macbook Air users with shitty specs and hardware limitations. First off, there's Crossover, that will run everything from games to windows applications. If you don't feel like dropping some money on it, there also something called Wine where you basically wrap a Windows anything into a Mac App. Sure, if you're using some shitty college girl Macbook Air laptop, you'll have performance issues obviously, because they're only built for browsing facebook while sipping Satrbucks, but have a look at the Macbook Pro, or Mac Pro and judge for yourself. Don't want wrappers or third party software? Make a Windows partition and you have 2 OS ready to go, for work or play. Feel like some old time stuff? Grab http://openemu.org/ which by the way isn't even available for windows.

Obviously I do agree with you that having a dedicated custom built Windows PC is the way to go for games, for many reasons, but not because you can't play on Mac, or supposed performance issues. That's just misinformation.

 

[Javier'sSon]

So I went to the shop today looking and asking for PCs and here's what I came out with:

- An iMac worth 2,000$. Processor type: Intel Core i5, Processor Speed: 3.2 GHz, System Memory: 8 GB RAM, Graphic Card: AMD Radeon R9 M380 (2 GB)

Now this is the least likely option but I have to say I'm mostly persuaded by it because of how sexy it looks. And it seems too expensive for what it offers, gaming-wise. It does come with everything else though like a monitor, keyboard and a mouse.

- HP PAVLON worth 1,065$. Processor type: Intel Core i7-6700, Processor Speed: 3.4 GHz, System Memory: 12 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2GB).

This one is the most realistic option price-wise, and according to the employee it's a good PC to play with.

- CPU OMEN worth 2,400$. Processor Type: Intel Core i7-6700K. Processor Speed: 4.0 GHz, System Memory: 32 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980TI (6GB).

This is the super PC according to the guy and he says I won't be needing to change anything anytime soon as it's quite powerful. Is it worth the price though? And do I really need all that stuff within it? I most likely won't purchase this one because I would still need a monitor, keyboard etc and it would cost too much but I'd still like to know how valuable it is.

 

[Wobblz]

Yeah, iMacs are sexy, no doubt about that, but the price is just You can buy two PCs with better characteristics for the same amount of money.

Erm, isn't the Pavilion a laptop? Anyway, I guess you can still convert it to a desktop if you buy an external display and a keyboard, or just use your TV for that purpose. Depending on the game you might not even need a keyboard - an Xbox Bluetooth connected gamepad would do for some. But you might as well just buy a console if you're going there.

About the HP Omen X thing, as I said, you get what you pay for. If you can get the pricier configs go for it, if you can see what your budget enables you to get.

The pricey (and important) stuff in a gaming PC is the GPU and the CPU. Everything else is relatively cheap, but of course things add up quickly.

i7-6700k CPU @ 4-4.2GHz is 431$ around here. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980TI (6GB) GPU is like 890$ alone.

 

[Pimpin]

So I went to the shop today looking and asking for PCs and here's what I came out with:

- An iMac worth 2,000$. Processor type: Intel Core i5, Processor Speed: 3.2 GHz, System Memory: 8 GB RAM, Graphic Card: AMD Radeon R9 M380 (2 GB)

Now this is the least likely option but I have to say I'm mostly persuaded by it because of how sexy it looks. And it seems too expensive for what it offers, gaming-wise. It does come with everything else though like a monitor, keyboard and a mouse.

- HP PAVLON worth 1,065$. Processor type: Intel Core i7-6700, Processor Speed: 3.4 GHz, System Memory: 12 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2GB).

This one is the most realistic option price-wise, and according to the employee it's a good PC to play with.

- CPU OMEN worth 2,400$. Processor Type: Intel Core i7-6700K. Processor Speed: 4.0 GHz, System Memory: 32 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980TI (6GB).

This is the super PC according to the guy and he says I won't be needing to change anything anytime soon as it's quite powerful. Is it worth the price though? And do I really need all that stuff within it? I most likely won't purchase this one because I would still need a monitor, keyboard etc and it would cost too much but I'd still like to know how valuable it is.

whyd o you give a shit man, just start an oil well and buy the store

 

[Joker]

So I went to the shop today looking and asking for PCs and here's what I came out with:

- An iMac worth 2,000$. Processor type: Intel Core i5, Processor Speed: 3.2 GHz, System Memory: 8 GB RAM, Graphic Card: AMD Radeon R9 M380 (2 GB)

Now this is the least likely option but I have to say I'm mostly persuaded by it because of how sexy it looks. And it seems too expensive for what it offers, gaming-wise. It does come with everything else though like a monitor, keyboard and a mouse.

- HP PAVLON worth 1,065$. Processor type: Intel Core i7-6700, Processor Speed: 3.4 GHz, System Memory: 12 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2GB).

This one is the most realistic option price-wise, and according to the employee it's a good PC to play with.

- CPU OMEN worth 2,400$. Processor Type: Intel Core i7-6700K. Processor Speed: 4.0 GHz, System Memory: 32 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980TI (6GB).

This is the super PC according to the guy and he says I won't be needing to change anything anytime soon as it's quite powerful. Is it worth the price though? And do I really need all that stuff within it? I most likely won't purchase this one because I would still need a monitor, keyboard etc and it would cost too much but I'd still like to know how valuable it is.

because you're an Inter fan, make sure you're monitor is a cheap one, you're going to break it one day

 

[Tsuna]

Ordered a 15" mac book pro. It's GPU would be good enough for me t0 do some light gaming and such.
My question to the post above is why not build your own PC? It's gonna be cheaper than the prices you are looking at now. And why even bother with the iMac when it hasn't been updated in 2 years already. Unless you're planning to play VR and 4K And stuff you really don't need to splurge that much on a GPU.

 

[TheNetworkZ]

So I went to the shop today looking and asking for PCs and here's what I came out with:

- An iMac worth 2,000$. Processor type: Intel Core i5, Processor Speed: 3.2 GHz, System Memory: 8 GB RAM, Graphic Card: AMD Radeon R9 M380 (2 GB)

Now this is the least likely option but I have to say I'm mostly persuaded by it because of how sexy it looks. And it seems too expensive for what it offers, gaming-wise. It does come with everything else though like a monitor, keyboard and a mouse.

- HP PAVLON worth 1,065$. Processor type: Intel Core i7-6700, Processor Speed: 3.4 GHz, System Memory: 12 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 (2GB).

This one is the most realistic option price-wise, and according to the employee it's a good PC to play with.

- CPU OMEN worth 2,400$. Processor Type: Intel Core i7-6700K. Processor Speed: 4.0 GHz, System Memory: 32 GB RAM, Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980TI (6GB).

This is the super PC according to the guy and he says I won't be needing to change anything anytime soon as it's quite powerful. Is it worth the price though? And do I really need all that stuff within it? I most likely won't purchase this one because I would still need a monitor, keyboard etc and it would cost too much but I'd still like to know how valuable it is.

There's no point in spending that kind of money and not putting together a PC yourself, cause it'll always be better than the pre-built ones around that price. It will cost you less and be better in the long run.

If you don't know how than the store where you buy the parts can probably put it together for you too.

 

[JJM]

I bought parts and asked the online shop where I bought it to assemble them together in to one sexy PC because I don't have much experience with it(it isn't that hard but I didn't want mess with it either and I'm lazy af also)and they did with no extra fees and shit

How much are you guys willing to spend on a graphics card
I think going over 300 EUR is crazy
People buying the GTX 1080 like it's a burek...
And it costs more than a average salary over here...NUTS

 

[Wobblz]

I don't think pre-assembled configurations are any pricier than the sum of their parts really. Super custom shiny builds like HP Omen and Razer stuff might be, but I don't think that's the case with ordinary pre-assembled PC.

As I said, when building your own PC parts quickly add up. When it comes to pricing, I think you can build a great gaming machine for as little as 750-1000 Euro (without the peripherals).

Essentials:

Case - A good ATX case would come in the range of 50-100$, that's the low-end, but I'm using one that's like 10 years old.
Motherboard - Could be a pricey component as well, you can start from the low end at 150$ and go to 400$, of course, it depends on the chipset, so you first got to figure out this and then the rest of the setup.
CPU - Proper ones, like i7s, are going for 300-500$. Mine is i5 4670 @ 3,4GHz, pretty old shit and still is about 300$.
GPU - I have a GTX960, which is about 290$. Agree with JJM, would never give more than that for a graphics card, but as I said, I'm not really a gamer - I only play light games and don't really care about graphics that much.
RAM - 2x 16GB DDR4 would be like 100$ a piece. 200$
SSD+HDD - 100$ for a smallish SSD for the OS, and another 100$ for 2TB of space should suffice.
Power Supply - Extremely important to buy a quality one, like EVGA/Seasonic/Antec. Corsair is shit. 100$ at most would do it, although it depends on how much wattage you'll need. At least with quality PSUs if it's written 400W on the box it'll perform better than a cheaper 600W PSU.

Optional:

Additional Fans - depending on the configuration you might need some additional fans, those are pretty cheap, but still 20-30$.
Sound Card / LAN Card are also a nice extra, the integrated ones that most MBs have might do the trick too, but I prefer external devices. A proper sound card makes a world of difference if you have quality speakers connected to your PC.
When it comes to displays, there are brand new 24" DELLs for 300-400$. I know it's not the best for gaming, but just using it as an anchor point.
A keyboard and mouse is another 50-100$


Sooo this makes roughly 1250$, if we're aiming at a budget set-up. It's important to aim at a more modern CPU, because again the motherboard is connected with this buying decision and you don't want to change your motherboard when you upgrade in a few years, other than this you can upgrade with ease - add more RAM would be the cheapest upgrade when you notice a slow-down, then changing the GPU in a few years and that's it, maybe buying a larger SSD to accommodate more games and not only the OS.

Again, just ask at your local hardware forum with a budget in mind and see what they suggest.

 

[Howl]

Considering you need one for general work and gaming, you shouldn't be splashing out more than $1200 unless money isn't much of an issue and if you will be hardcore gaming. Also a good monitor (to get the best out of your PC) will cost $200 at least (24"+) and you should consider other accessories you'll need in your budget. No point building a great PC and not getting the best out of it.

I know you said you didn't wanna build, but here's some sources which show you what you can get for $1500 - which are some pretty beastly PC's.

Spoiler: Sauces

http://pcgamehaven.com/1500-gaming-pc-build-the-high-end/
http://techbuyersguru.com/1500-high-end-gaming-pc-build

Some of the shit they say you can mix up, like getting a smaller/cheaper ssd combined with a 1 or 2tb HDD. Also these builds include 1080's & 1070's which again you might not need if your not going to game at a high level and want 4k graphics

Also black Friday is coming up, and a lot of the time you can get some parts and accessories cheaper than what they are now, especially if Amazon have some of them on their lightning deals.

 

[JJM]

I got this "fire" PC built back in early January

- Intel Core i7 4790 BOX procesor Haswell
- Motherboard ASUS B85M-E LGA 1150 mATX
- ASUS Turbo GeForce GTX 960 2GB DDR5 graphics card obvi.
- SSD 250 GB Samsung 850 EVO
-HDD WD Green 2tb
- RAM Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB(2X8GB)1600MHz
-LC-POWER PRO-925B case with a power supply in there already http://www.lc-power.com/en/product/gehaeuse/atx-pro-line/pro-925b/
and a ASUS DRW 24F1MT DVD-RW writer just because I like my games bought physically(old school like that)

I believe that the processor needs to be the best thing in a good setup PC,not the GPU,but then again I'm no hardcore gamer either...FIFA,FALLOUT 4,THE DIVISION,GTA,JUST CAUSE 3...not something demanding and my GPU handles it pretty well...I play games for the content not graphics
so i7 was a necessary evil for me...won't have to upgrade it anytime soon as well

 

[Ronin]

Anyone here got GTA V? I just got it and looking for a crew or someshit.

 

[JJM]

Anyone here got GTA V? I just got it and looking for a crew or someshit.

no,but you can make an investment going my way like Suning does with Inter,I can PM you the address where to send the game blivious: