Paulo Dybala

Imagine you`re in Ausilio/Marotta`s shoes, would you offer Dybala a contract?

  • Yes - unlock defences and add value: creativity, individual brilliance, attacking outside the box

  • No - serious doubts about his fitness and contribution when it matters the most


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Barella deal: 12m initial loan fee, 25m redemption fee + 8m in easy bonuses (appearances, minutes played, decent league position etc) + 5m which includes winning shit and going far in Europe.

A total of 50m. Best case scenario monetary wise is 45m, but that means we'll remain in obscurity...


That is being a little dramatic isn't it? Obscurity if the 5m hard to reach bonuses are not reached? We could finish 1 point behind Juve in 2nd place or lose in the Champions League final and not have the bonuses met. We don't know what they are exactly.
 

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Either way, not meeting those clauses means that we'll do worse than we should. Unless there's a Ballon d'Or clause :lol:
 

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I'm not seeing Dybala as a great fit. I like his game but it might have a negative impact on Lautaro's confidence and productivity. I want it to be Toro's job to lose. The idea of playing all 3 in attack is possible but Lazaro and asamoah aren't strong enough to play in a midfield 4. Much rather we force a short term move for dzeko and by luck we use the icardi money to go for eriksen or SMS. Maybe pogba if we have the opportunity.

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Either way, not meeting those clauses means that we'll do worse than we should. Unless there's a Ballon d'Or clause :lol:

Worse than you think we should, you mean? Let's be clear. 99% of Inter fans would be ecstatic with a 2nd place finish and deep Champions League run. I know our overpriced coach makes you feel like we need to win the treble in his first season, but everyone else would be very happy with what I mentioned above.
 

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If you think it's possible to safely reach 2nd while we also have a deep CL run I envy you. At the moment. Because I don't wanna be there when you fall off the clouds you're wandering at.
 

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A swap with Dybala benefits Juventus more than us, imo. Considering we're fine with Lukaku, Lautaro and possibly Dzeko.
 

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If we get dybala then I agree with Vito otherwise I agree with Brehme
 

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If you think it's possible to safely reach 2nd while we also have a deep CL run I envy you. At the moment. Because I don't wanna be there when you fall off the clouds you're wandering at.


That's not what we are talking about here...you said if we do not win titles this season it means we finished worse than what we should have done. Whether my dream of a good season is ridiculous or not, I am simply saying that we can have a good season without winning any titles this year to activate the Barella bonuses. You are making it sound like anything less than Serie A or CL title is not good enough.

A strong finish in the league a nice run in Champions league is what most of us expect...I don't think there is anyone here who honestly expects to win the league or CL this season.
 

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Barella has a 5 year contract. That means a 5 year span for the activation of the bonus, not the next season....

Not winning shit for the next 5 seasons despite commiting over 250m in 70 days with that aim is a complete failure. And it would more likely be because we fell to obscurity and not because we'd lose everything in the final moment...
 

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Barella has a 5 year contract. That means a 5 year span for the activation of the bonus, not the next season....


Do you know that for a fact though? Clauses can be written any number of ways. "CL title in the first 2 years", "Serie A title in 2019/20", etc. Who knows exactly what the bonuses are?
 

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Assuming we get Dybala and Dzeko, what would be our attacking formation? The last thing I want to see is Lautaro on the bench.
 

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Republlica : Dybala and image rights. There are those who are solving it and it is Marotta
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Barella has a 5 year contract. That means a 5 year span for the activation of the bonus, not the next season....

Not winning shit for the next 5 seasons despite commiting over 250m in 70 days with that aim is a complete failure. And it would more likely be because we fell to obscurity and not because we'd lose everything in the final moment...

Well if we win a title in the next 5 seasons and Barella has that kind of clause that we pay 5m€ for that, then there's a good chance he's been worth it.

But it's just guessing that the clause is like that.
 

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Do you know that for a fact though? Clauses can be written any number of ways. "CL title in the first 2 years", "Serie A title in 2019/20", etc. Who knows exactly what the bonuses are?

First of all, the fact here is that they exist. And that puts the transfer at 50m. If when Barella leaves they are not exercised, then and only then we can claim it's a 45m transfer or whatever. But at the moment, we have committed 50m for Nicolo Barella and that's the end of the story. Just like we've committed over 80m for Romelu Lukaku. That's part of how budgeting works.

Second, the "easy" clauses tend to be related to player performance with some exceptions inlcuding the club not relegated within the next 2 seasons, participation in the Champions League for teams that automatically quality or something and other jokes of that sort*. These obviously are deal-to-deal basis and there's no template. The 'hard' clauses could be anything obviously, ranging from a number of things, some of them being unthinkable.

Third, these bonus clauses can be anything indeed. But we've seen how long it took to seal the deal despite agreeing terms with the player since freaking October! Cagliari demanded a 50m valuation and we gave it to them. They wouldn't settle for shit clauses like Barella for Ballon D'Or, 30 goals for Italy, winning the CL this season and winning the World Cup in 2022... Let's be realistic here. The clauses are related to Inter winning the Scudetto and going far in the Champions League. These CL/Europe clauses usually start paying when you reach the QF, depending on who makes the deal of course.

Fourth, you are underestimating the amount of clauses involved. The reason why we cannot know them is because there's a fuckload of them usually. Maybe we have a clause to pay Cagliari 5k per game for 150 games. Maybe there's a 100k bonus in case he doesn't play/score against Cagliari in one of the games. It could be broken to several different mini clauses that amount to 13m. The "easy" ones would be more straightforward of course, and much less in numbers. But the hard one could be broken up into 30 different clauses and only 3 of them would seem highly improbable. Meaning that we'd still end up paying over 4m of them. But since Cagliari wasn't really letting go of the whole situation, it's very likely that they have tied the bonuses to Inter's standings and European progresion. We're probably going to pay part of the clause if we end up 2nd or reach the 2nd round of the Champions League. It's not like we do that every season, so it's a hard-to-reach achievement for us. The entirety of the 5m figure would only be completed with silverware though.


*Relegation clauses are very popular in Holland for example. Which is also why people dealing with Dutch transfer insist on having relegation clauses, such as wage reduction in case of relegation if the player appears in over 75% of the games, or a penalty imposed on the club if they are relegated and the player does not feature in more than an x amount of games. And it is ridiculous as they exist in Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord contracts as well. And their agents like to add these kind of deals when their players move to mid-tier or low-tier leagues, regardless of the team's domestic quality. I was an eye witness in a situation where a difference-maker type of player was snubbed by a club (mid-tier European league) because they wouldn't accept a relegation release clause and even a drop in the playe's salay in that case. I mean, they knew there was a zero chance of relegation, but for them it was a pride thing. They felt insulted that this guy thought there was even the slightest chance of relegation! They felt cheated that he'd bring them what would have been their best player and still fear there's a chance of relegation instead of reach newer heights! Call it a cultural clash if you wish. But imagine Inter cancelling the transfer of someone like Van der Beek because his agent wanted to add a low relegation release clause :lol:
 

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Inter seems to be applying the proverb. If you can’t beat them, join them (hire them).
 

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Repubblica - The exchange between Mauro Icardi and Paulo Dybala is a real possibility. Marotta continues to work to facilitate the operation and is also solving the intricate question of image rights. However, Juve would obviously like to avoid the scenario at all costs

Sorry Rube,Marotta's plan is inevitable

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So SMS and Dybala didn't make it to EPL

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Yeah...until icardi is top league scorer this season. Lets not pretend that icardi wont score a hatful of goals for them. Whereas Dybala, will he even start, is Lautaro going to go to the bench? Because lukaku sure isnt. Id much rather we sell icardi and buy a star midfielder (SMS)
Turning down Dybala, wow!
 

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people overrating Lautaro like they did with Perisic lul

yep because lautaro is like perisic right? a cunt on the field that gives a fuck the whole game, feels like he is playing golf or something like that, can't even make a cross, does everytime say how much he would play in EPL...

are you even watching games?
 

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yep because lautaro is like perisic right? a cunt on the field that gives a fuck the whole game, feels like he is playing golf or something like that, can't even make a cross, does everytime say how much he would play in EPL...

are you even watching games?

The people who wouldn't sell Perisic for less than 70 million and the people who compared Joao Mario to FUCKING INIESTA are the same people questioning bringing in Dybala because it might effect Lautaro's minutes. Lautaro is a lot closer to Gabigol than he is Dybala. You are in for a big disappointment.
 
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