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So Pravesh. On with the preview?
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10 years of FIFHe played an excellent half, and it's amazing you want to see the same defence line in the derby, I really don't mind if Cordoba plays as a full back, but it certainly should be as a leftback not rightback. Do you really think Favalli is better than il Capitano? And Cordoba even does better in the left.
I can't believe that we won 1-5 even if Veron and Emre really did'nt play well at all, in fact they both were horrible with the ball, I don't know why but this is what my eyes saw. Cambiasso was excellent, he is magical in protecting the ball and passing it to a team mate. And he certainly is very combative too. This might not be too popular opinion, but he is my bid for our future captain.
So, we should go to derby with:
------------------Adriano---------------------
---Stankovic-- -Veron---------------VDM--
----------------Davids------------------------
---------------------Cambiasso--------------
Cordoba---Materazzi--Burdisso--Capitano
Only questionmark is who should, if anybody play alongside Adriano upfront. For I believe Recoba and Martins are not ready yet, I don't think we should go with two frontmen. Another reason we should go with only one pure striker is that 4-4-2 with Veron and Cambiasso or Davids in the middle is not good against Milans diamond-like midfield, we need more industrious midfield. Veron had problems yestarday that he did'nt have against Udinese. He did'nt have the possibility to play his own game with just one ballwinner. Another possibility is ofcourse that we play with similar midfield than against Udinese, two ballwinners and Veron+VDM. Not that I think Veron is a must, this just seems to be the reality. My point is that assuming Veron will play, it's better to have two ballwinners with him rather than two strikers. And with formation above, VDM and Deki can feel more free to attack.
So to clear things out, I think it should be basically 4-4-2 without Veron,
4-4-2 with two ballwinners and Veron+Deki or the formation above, let's call it for example 4-2-3-1.
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He was horrible defencevely IMO. Didn´t you see how Valencia played with him? :cry2: Of course he was great offencevely but that´s just not good enough for me. We need defensive security in our full backs first and foremost, especially against Milan... And right now Il Capitano is not providing this. Favalli has been shaky too, but he was great yesterday in defence. Normally I´d take J. Zanetti over Favalli in a heartbeat. But this time I´d clearly opt for Giuseppe because of our captain´s current defensive problems.Johnny said:
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10 years of FIFDerby della Madonnina - 258
The long and much awaited Milan Derby is now just few days later on. If we recall our recent derbies, then we might not have liked this derby to be played this early, as it’s been a long while since we last won against them. Oh yeah, we won against them on my birthday (3 March) which was two and half years back, but c’mon, 2.5 years’ a lot when it comes to waiting for a revenge. Lots of things have changed since then, where we went close to our long awaited Scudetto title in the very same season. In the other hand, Milan has achieved a lot since then, from Champions League to Scudetto title, no wonder their fans have found lots of ways to make fun of us.
It’s not only the results that hurt us, but also to see players like Nesta and Pirlo with Milan, who could have been with us had our management done their job well. Well, it seems to be a tradition in Inter to help our rivals. So, it’s better to forget this discussion for a while, especially at this period when we are going to face those players who we had dreamed in the black and blue kit. Now, lets hope that our team shows such a magnificent display to make us forget those players.
Inter and Milan will be playing the derby after having stamped their authority against the Spanish clubs Valencia and Barcelona respectively. But I find Inter’s victory more great, coz we won against the mighty Valencia with a big margin, in their home ground. Ok, they did miss Ayala and the other defender, including Vicente, but still our victory’s margin was just too good for our opponent to make any kinda excuses.
It won’t be easy for our team to break the Milan defence, like we did against Valencia. It’s not that it’s that hard to score against Milan, coz they have leaked a bit many goals in Serie, it’s just that we should play well and most importantly remain balanced.
It was Barcelona’s first match this season where they failed to score, and the same can happen to us. (We have scored in each and every game till yet). But sadly, we have also let in goals in all the games, except against Werder Bremen.
Now, coming to tactic of the two teams:
It’s not hard to predict Milan’s line up compared to ours, which is indeed very hard even to guess the line up.
…………………………… Dida …………………….……….
Cafu ….. Nesta ……………… Stam …… Maldini
………………………….. Pirlo ……………………………..
…………. Gatusso ………….. Seedorf …………….
……………….…………. Kaka …………………………….
……… Shevchenko ……… Inzaghi ……………….
I have read that Cambiasso had a very good game yet again, playing just above the defence and he should continue in the same role again. After doing his job well against Aimar and Valencia, this time he should do well against Kaka and Milan.
Recently, it’s been said that whenever Inter starts the game with Adriano, it’s like starting with one goal advantage. But that won’t be the case when we face Milan, coz they have two brilliant players in Shevchenko and Kaka and a top quality defender – Nesta to cancel that one goal advantage. So, this game would start with the score 0-0 and not 1-0, like in other matches. It won’t be easy for Adriano.
And there is where, the importance of Adriano’s striking partner arrives. So, who shall be his partner – Vieri or Recoba ?? Obviously, it will be Vieri, coz he seems to be doing well and we also haven’t got that many options due to injury to Martins, Recoba is not fit and Cruz would be better as a sub.
Vieri will have to help Adriano a lot in this game. Adriano will definitely be tight marked by Nesta and Stam, which might help Vieri to get scoring opportunities, which he should take advantage of. In the past, Vieri used to take Adriano’s place, as he would have been tight marked, and Inter would be stopped had our opponents stopped Vieri. Now, it’s not the same case for Vieri as our opponents defence would be kept busy with Adriano; so Vieri would be have to take advantage all the opportunities, if it happens.
This is Inter's line up, I prefer:
……………………..….…… Fontana …………………….….….
J.Zanetti .... Materazzi ..… Burdisso …… Cordoba
…………………………….. Cambiasso …………….…………..
…………. Veron ………… Emre ..……… Stankovic ..….
……………………… Vieri …………… Adriano ……………….
# Some changes to the above line up, which I wouldn’t mind are:
Emre <-> Karagounis
I don’t think I would like us to play with 2 DM, unless Cambiasso is given the free role to go a bit forward, which he can. But there could also be the advantage of playing with two DM – Cambiasso and C.Zanetti (or even Davids) coz that way we can try to stop both Kaka and Pirlo.
I don’t think it’s the right time to change our goalkeeper in this match, let Fontana continue with his job, which he is doing well.
Might we need Cordoba in the center defence to stop Kaka and Shevchenko ?
These are our derby results (since 1998) against our devil cousin:
21/02/2004 Milan - Inter 3-2
11/10/2003 Inter – Milan 1-3
12/04/2003 Inter – Milan 0-1
23/11/2002 Milan – Inter 1-0
03/03/2002 Milan – Inter 0-1
21/10/2001 Inter – Milan 2-4
11/05/2001 Inter – Milan 0-6
07/01/2001 Milan – Inter 2-2
05/03/2000 Milan – Inter 1-2
23/10/1999 Inter – Milan 1-2
13/03/1999 Inter – Milan 2-2
08/11/1998 Milan – Inter 2-2
Both Inter and Milan will also be looking for their second Serie win in San Siro this season, as both the teams have only been able to win just once.
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The long and much awaited Milan Derby is now just few days later on. If we recall our recent derbies, then we might not have liked this derby to be played this early, as it’s been a long while since we last won against them. Oh yeah, we won against them on my birthday (3 March) which was two and half years back, but c’mon, 2.5 years’ a lot when it comes to waiting for a revenge. Lots of things have changed since then, where we went close to our long awaited Scudetto title in the very same season. In the other hand, Milan has achieved a lot since then, from Champions League to Scudetto title, no wonder their fans have found lots of ways to make fun of us.
It’s not only the results that hurt us, but also to see players like Nesta and Pirlo with Milan, who could have been with us had our management done their job well. Well, it seems to be a tradition in Inter to help our rivals. So, it’s better to forget this discussion for a while, especially at this period when we are going to face those players who we had dreamed in the black and blue kit. Now, lets hope that our team shows such a magnificent display to make us forget those players.
Inter and Milan will be playing the derby after having stamped their authority against the Spanish clubs Valencia and Barcelona respectively. But I find Inter’s victory more great, coz we won against the mighty Valencia with a big margin, in their home ground. Ok, they did miss Ayala and the other defender, including Vicente, but still our victory’s margin was just too good for our opponent to make any kinda excuses.
It won’t be easy for our team to break the Milan defence, like we did against Valencia. It’s not that it’s that hard to score against Milan, coz they have leaked a bit many goals in Serie, it’s just that we should play well and most importantly remain balanced.
It was Barcelona’s first match this season where they failed to score, and the same can happen to us. (We have scored in each and every game till yet). But sadly, we have also let in goals in all the games, except against Werder Bremen.
Now, coming to tactic of the two teams:
It’s not hard to predict Milan’s line up compared to ours, which is indeed very hard even to guess the line up.
…………………………… Dida …………………….……….
Cafu ….. Nesta ……………… Stam …… Maldini
………………………….. Pirlo ……………………………..
…………. Gatusso ………….. Seedorf …………….
……………….…………. Kaka …………………………….
……… Shevchenko ……… Inzaghi ……………….
I have read that Cambiasso had a very good game yet again, playing just above the defence and he should continue in the same role again. After doing his job well against Aimar and Valencia, this time he should do well against Kaka and Milan.
Recently, it’s been said that whenever Inter starts the game with Adriano, it’s like starting with one goal advantage. But that won’t be the case when we face Milan, coz they have two brilliant players in Shevchenko and Kaka and a top quality defender – Nesta to cancel that one goal advantage. So, this game would start with the score 0-0 and not 1-0, like in other matches. It won’t be easy for Adriano.
And there is where, the importance of Adriano’s striking partner arrives. So, who shall be his partner – Vieri or Recoba ?? Obviously, it will be Vieri, coz he seems to be doing well and we also haven’t got that many options due to injury to Martins, Recoba is not fit and Cruz would be better as a sub.
Vieri will have to help Adriano a lot in this game. Adriano will definitely be tight marked by Nesta and Stam, which might help Vieri to get scoring opportunities, which he should take advantage of. In the past, Vieri used to take Adriano’s place, as he would have been tight marked, and Inter would be stopped had our opponents stopped Vieri. Now, it’s not the same case for Vieri as our opponents defence would be kept busy with Adriano; so Vieri would be have to take advantage all the opportunities, if it happens.
This is Inter's line up, I prefer:
……………………..….…… Fontana …………………….….….
J.Zanetti .... Materazzi ..… Burdisso …… Cordoba
…………………………….. Cambiasso …………….…………..
…………. Veron ………… Emre ..……… Stankovic ..….
……………………… Vieri …………… Adriano ……………….
# Some changes to the above line up, which I wouldn’t mind are:
Emre <-> Karagounis
I don’t think I would like us to play with 2 DM, unless Cambiasso is given the free role to go a bit forward, which he can. But there could also be the advantage of playing with two DM – Cambiasso and C.Zanetti (or even Davids) coz that way we can try to stop both Kaka and Pirlo.
I don’t think it’s the right time to change our goalkeeper in this match, let Fontana continue with his job, which he is doing well.
Might we need Cordoba in the center defence to stop Kaka and Shevchenko ?
These are our derby results (since 1998) against our devil cousin:
21/02/2004 Milan - Inter 3-2
11/10/2003 Inter – Milan 1-3
12/04/2003 Inter – Milan 0-1
23/11/2002 Milan – Inter 1-0
03/03/2002 Milan – Inter 0-1
21/10/2001 Inter – Milan 2-4
11/05/2001 Inter – Milan 0-6
07/01/2001 Milan – Inter 2-2
05/03/2000 Milan – Inter 1-2
23/10/1999 Inter – Milan 1-2
13/03/1999 Inter – Milan 2-2
08/11/1998 Milan – Inter 2-2
Both Inter and Milan will also be looking for their second Serie win in San Siro this season, as both the teams have only been able to win just once.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFGood news and bad news guys. Gazetta says martins and recoba will be fit for the derby but Burdisso has a muscular problem and is already ruled out of the derby.
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FIF Special Ones10 years of FIFAs for the formations, we have several players in doubt for injuries: Martins, Burdisso, Recoba.
As Pravesh pointed out, Milan's team is easy to predict. What about us?
FONTANA
J ZANETTI MATERAZZI CORDOBA FAVALLI
V D MEYDE VERON C ZANETTI (CAMBIASSO) STANKOVIC
ADRIANO VIERI
I would be very surprised to see anything different. Burdisso could play if he's 100%, otherwise I'm positive Mancini won't risk him.
C Zanetti is favourite to start in midfield, considering that Cambiasso played 90 minutes in Valencia.
What kind of duels are we going to see then?
On the right flank, J Zanetti and V D Meyde are going to clash with Maldini and Seedorf. On the left, Favalli and Stankovic will challenge Cafu and Gattuso. Pirlo vs Veron. Adriano vs Nesta. Cordoba vs Sheva. Matrix vs Inzaghi. Vieri vs Stam.
This really should be a great game.
As Pravesh pointed out, Milan's team is easy to predict. What about us?
FONTANA
J ZANETTI MATERAZZI CORDOBA FAVALLI
V D MEYDE VERON C ZANETTI (CAMBIASSO) STANKOVIC
ADRIANO VIERI
I would be very surprised to see anything different. Burdisso could play if he's 100%, otherwise I'm positive Mancini won't risk him.
C Zanetti is favourite to start in midfield, considering that Cambiasso played 90 minutes in Valencia.
What kind of duels are we going to see then?
On the right flank, J Zanetti and V D Meyde are going to clash with Maldini and Seedorf. On the left, Favalli and Stankovic will challenge Cafu and Gattuso. Pirlo vs Veron. Adriano vs Nesta. Cordoba vs Sheva. Matrix vs Inzaghi. Vieri vs Stam.
This really should be a great game.
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FIF Special Ones10 years of FIFStefan said:Good news and bad news guys. Gazetta says martins and recoba will be fit for the derby but Burdisso has a muscular problem and is already ruled out of the derby.
I'm very happy about Oba. But I think Mancio will only play them if we're trailing, and he'll start with Adriano + Vieri. Too bad for Burdisso.
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Most Important MemberThis is childish but if Mancini didn't start Javier Zanetti I'll go bonkers up and down his @rse! :fero: Unless we can win of course.
It's good that both Recoba and Martins are fit. To be honest, I somehow don't trust Cruz at all. Considering that only Stankovic is the only goal-scoring midfielder, I feel that both of our strikers should be prolific goal-scorers instead of a creator or hard-worker. But Vieri has scored 2 goals in the last 2 games and we need to keep using him and hoping that he'll regain his form. But from previous Derby experience, we know that even Costacurta (Albeit he's still good) can completely take Vieri out of a Derby. Whereas, Martins is Milan's slow-@ss defence nightmare.
I don't know if it's so easy to guess Milan's defence line though. I believe Stam didn't play against Cagliari. I don't know if it's because of an injury or a suspension but Maldini has said that he prefer to play on the centre and if Maldini starts on the centre, Kaladze may start on the left, relegating Stam to the bench. Whoever is in their back 4, they would be praying that Adriano has an off night.
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It's good that both Recoba and Martins are fit. To be honest, I somehow don't trust Cruz at all. Considering that only Stankovic is the only goal-scoring midfielder, I feel that both of our strikers should be prolific goal-scorers instead of a creator or hard-worker. But Vieri has scored 2 goals in the last 2 games and we need to keep using him and hoping that he'll regain his form. But from previous Derby experience, we know that even Costacurta (Albeit he's still good) can completely take Vieri out of a Derby. Whereas, Martins is Milan's slow-@ss defence nightmare.
I don't know if it's so easy to guess Milan's defence line though. I believe Stam didn't play against Cagliari. I don't know if it's because of an injury or a suspension but Maldini has said that he prefer to play on the centre and if Maldini starts on the centre, Kaladze may start on the left, relegating Stam to the bench. Whoever is in their back 4, they would be praying that Adriano has an off night.
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FIF Special Ones10 years of FIFStam didn't play against Cagliari because of a slight injury.
Maldini said in pre-season that he didn't want to play on the left. But he changed his mind after the start of the season and he said he's happy to do so.
Maldini said in pre-season that he didn't want to play on the left. But he changed his mind after the start of the season and he said he's happy to do so.
Well there are plenty of selection dilemmas for Inter and I sure hope that Mancini makes the right decision.My advice.....
Toldo
(He needs to come back and I do trust him!)
Capitano--Burdisso(Cordoba)--Materazzi--Favalli
(Saverio is essential for big games,Burdisso-Matrix looks great so I hope he isn't injured and Favalli is good cover for Cafu)
Van Der Meyde--Cambiasso--Veron--Stankovic
In a rhombus midfield,AVDM feels confident and unfortunately there is no space for Emre)
Adriano--Vieri(Martins(Recoba))
There is no question about Adriano and Vieri should start unless Martins is fit.However Martins could also be super-sub!)
However many things could still change....
Fabio
Toldo
(He needs to come back and I do trust him!)
Capitano--Burdisso(Cordoba)--Materazzi--Favalli
(Saverio is essential for big games,Burdisso-Matrix looks great so I hope he isn't injured and Favalli is good cover for Cafu)
Van Der Meyde--Cambiasso--Veron--Stankovic
In a rhombus midfield,AVDM feels confident and unfortunately there is no space for Emre)
Adriano--Vieri(Martins(Recoba))
There is no question about Adriano and Vieri should start unless Martins is fit.However Martins could also be super-sub!)
However many things could still change....
Fabio
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FIF Special Ones10 years of FIFSo far many of our probable formations turned out to be wrong. I mean who could predict Cordoba RB against Valencia?
Mancini is mixing his cards very very well.
Mancini is mixing his cards very very well.
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Il Capitano dropped?? You guys crazy for sure!
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Pravesh, I´ll remove the lineup stuff and all that. It´s for Saturday´s preview (which has apparenly been my responsible). Right now it´s about emotions and stuff.
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Btw Jimmy, great work about this guy pissing
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Screw the tactics and lineup guys. That´s for Saturday. Get pumped up right now. You´re not into the derby spirit here!
SCREW MILAN!!!!!!
SCREW MILAN!!!!!!
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A rhombus midfield? What? Sorta like this??
-----------Vieri-----------Adriano
------Stankovic-----------Van der Meyde
----------------Cambiasso-------------Veron
--Favalli----Materazzi----Burdisso------J. Zanetti
------------------------Fontana
Is that the rhombus midfield you guys are talking about?
-----------Vieri-----------Adriano
------Stankovic-----------Van der Meyde
----------------Cambiasso-------------Veron
--Favalli----Materazzi----Burdisso------J. Zanetti
------------------------Fontana
Is that the rhombus midfield you guys are talking about?