Oba i gotta go against u with ur last post.
Veron useless in a 442 ?? i have no idea how u got to that conclusion ?!?!? but let me tell u this, Veron played his best football with Lazio and guess where he played ? in the center alongside Simione or Almeyda in a 442. Veron has played almost every where in the center, with Parma he played in a 3412 behind Crespo and Chiesa, with Lazio in a 442, with the NT he has lately been playing as a holding midfielder in a 3331 (him being in the center infront of the back 3 playing the Pirlo/Cocu role.
Thats Veron ... as for Emre & Stankovic combo, i don't think that will ever happen and i don't think it could work .. gerrard and Lampard are completely different as Gerrard is more of a Viera thus he is very good in defence and the only problem they had is that they had to watch each other when they make runs so one can be the holding midfielder ie. the reference point (Pirlo/Cocu) and since they are both good passers and good distributers of the ball they can manage. However, with all that said you still see that England are being domanated by France and the Swiss and the English are simply playing counter attack football, why ?? IMO this has nothing to do with there passing ability as all four midfielders are excelent passers, its due to there movement as they don't complement each other and thus they find it hard to keep possesion and thus, they tend to either go long from left to right with a long ball or they long ball it to the forwards, but you never see them keeping possesion with short passes in the center coz that is where they have problems.
Emre & Stankovic would be worse than Gerrard and Lampard as non of them is a great director, they are both great creators but they can't control the passing in the midfield.
With Stankovic, Emre and Veron if any of them can play a holding midfielders role ie. pirlo/Cocu, then it has to be Veron as he does with the NT. Thus, IMO if there is a chance of playing two of the above in the center of a 442 then one of them has to be Veron. The above reason is also why i think that if Davids was to come and we are gonna play a 442 then Veron would have the upper hand on Emre & Stan coz he can play the Cocu role which is what Davids needs next to him.
IMO if Davids does come then the only way i see him, Veron, Emre, Stankovic and VDM playing is if we switch to a 4231:
-------------------Adriano------------------
Emre-----------Stankovic---------VDM---
-----------Davids--------Veron------------
That IMO is the best midfield in Italy or even in the world. This way Davids can run all he wants and let Veron be the director of the team, thus, leaving the 3 attacking midfielders to move around and give options for Veron to do what he does best PASS..... If that is to happen then we need to sort out Vieri, either sell him or not make him a sure starter. Also, Cesar IS NOT NEEDED !
With the above line-up we have Vieri, Recoba, Martins, C.Zanetti, Kily and Karagounis as reliable subs and with the number of games and number of injuries that we usually have expect alot of play time for most of the above players as we can switch to a 442, 4312 or a 433 with ease.
All in all, the best thing that could happen IMO is if we do use the above formation (Manicini did play like that back in his Viola days), sign Davids, keep Vieri (but not as a sure starter) and sell Cruz, not sign Cesar.
Veron useless in a 442 ?? i have no idea how u got to that conclusion ?!?!? but let me tell u this, Veron played his best football with Lazio and guess where he played ? in the center alongside Simione or Almeyda in a 442. Veron has played almost every where in the center, with Parma he played in a 3412 behind Crespo and Chiesa, with Lazio in a 442, with the NT he has lately been playing as a holding midfielder in a 3331 (him being in the center infront of the back 3 playing the Pirlo/Cocu role.
Thats Veron ... as for Emre & Stankovic combo, i don't think that will ever happen and i don't think it could work .. gerrard and Lampard are completely different as Gerrard is more of a Viera thus he is very good in defence and the only problem they had is that they had to watch each other when they make runs so one can be the holding midfielder ie. the reference point (Pirlo/Cocu) and since they are both good passers and good distributers of the ball they can manage. However, with all that said you still see that England are being domanated by France and the Swiss and the English are simply playing counter attack football, why ?? IMO this has nothing to do with there passing ability as all four midfielders are excelent passers, its due to there movement as they don't complement each other and thus they find it hard to keep possesion and thus, they tend to either go long from left to right with a long ball or they long ball it to the forwards, but you never see them keeping possesion with short passes in the center coz that is where they have problems.
Emre & Stankovic would be worse than Gerrard and Lampard as non of them is a great director, they are both great creators but they can't control the passing in the midfield.
With Stankovic, Emre and Veron if any of them can play a holding midfielders role ie. pirlo/Cocu, then it has to be Veron as he does with the NT. Thus, IMO if there is a chance of playing two of the above in the center of a 442 then one of them has to be Veron. The above reason is also why i think that if Davids was to come and we are gonna play a 442 then Veron would have the upper hand on Emre & Stan coz he can play the Cocu role which is what Davids needs next to him.
IMO if Davids does come then the only way i see him, Veron, Emre, Stankovic and VDM playing is if we switch to a 4231:
-------------------Adriano------------------
Emre-----------Stankovic---------VDM---
-----------Davids--------Veron------------
That IMO is the best midfield in Italy or even in the world. This way Davids can run all he wants and let Veron be the director of the team, thus, leaving the 3 attacking midfielders to move around and give options for Veron to do what he does best PASS..... If that is to happen then we need to sort out Vieri, either sell him or not make him a sure starter. Also, Cesar IS NOT NEEDED !
With the above line-up we have Vieri, Recoba, Martins, C.Zanetti, Kily and Karagounis as reliable subs and with the number of games and number of injuries that we usually have expect alot of play time for most of the above players as we can switch to a 442, 4312 or a 433 with ease.
All in all, the best thing that could happen IMO is if we do use the above formation (Manicini did play like that back in his Viola days), sign Davids, keep Vieri (but not as a sure starter) and sell Cruz, not sign Cesar.
