La Grande Inter accused for doping
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I bet, few will care... :stress:
but if the book was about Juve...
PS welcome to the club fellow dopers :howler:
but if the book was about Juve...
PS welcome to the club fellow dopers :howler:
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10 years of FIFHe always talks shit about us, no need to take it seriously.
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these accusations are about 40 years late....
P.S. Juve are the scum of the earth.
P.S. Juve are the scum of the earth.
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So, it´s La Grande Inter = "Il Caffè Herrera"
Not surprised about this at all.
Not surprised about this at all.
That´s true. I´ve seen this before and i´m not surprised about it. Whenever Inter player is accused of using dope, most of our fans say it was just a mistake and he took it accidentally, but when it´s about Juve - then it´s all intentional. Seems most of us have double standards...Juventinos said:but if the book was about Juve...
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFYes indeed, I think we should threat all information with the same standards: There might have been something illegal in our wins, hopefuly (probably) not, but you never know...
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an accusation 40 years later..
what can I say..
Where was he all these years?
what can I say..
Where was he all these years?
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Most Passionate MemberI bet Moggi or Galliani has put the hand deep in his pocket to do something like that. If this was true, he would do it right at that time or at most 10 years, so that he would be known for discovering the Inter scandal
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Most Important MemberActually, this point has been raised in the past too but I guess the accusations weren't strong enough, definitely not as strong as the current Juve-doping or Milan-Galliani-FIGC issues. But like Tommi said, we don't know the truth. We are just fans who have no behind-the-scenes access at all and all we can do is make hypothesies and hope that Inter did not do all the alleged things.
All I can say though is that since there aren't strong investigations done, as far as I know, there isn't a big chance of them being true.
Handyo
All I can say though is that since there aren't strong investigations done, as far as I know, there isn't a big chance of them being true.
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Ferruccio Mazzola was never worthy of nerazzurri shirt. I don't know if he's bitter for Inter or something else. I just wonder why wait over 40 years until he opens his mouth. Anyway, I don't care. It was so lng ago adn no one can prove anything. In the sixties and seventies it was quite usual to dope athletes. If they did that in Inter I'm sure they have done it elsewhere too. Oh, Ferruccio claims, Herrera made players to use amphetamine.
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Ferruccio Mazzola has to prove what he claims to be true, in court of course, or else he has to shut his mouth and ask for a public apology.. :fero:
I bet that he can't prove it!
The whole incident makes me very suspicious..
I mean, he comes out 40 years later and make these accusations???
Why now?
Maybe his bank account has improved since then..
I bet that he can't prove it!
The whole incident makes me very suspicious..
I mean, he comes out 40 years later and make these accusations???
Why now?
Maybe his bank account has improved since then..
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFMost Important MemberHere's the full extract of the interview with Ferruccio Mazzola. I don't know when was this taken though. Credits to Hasuni/Diavolo from another forum.
Italian champions that have made the history of Football, will be called to testify in front of Rome's tribunal on doping. Sandro Mazzola, Mariolino Corso, Luis Suarez, Tarcisio Burnich, Gianfranco Bedin, Angelo Domenghini, Aristide Guarneri aswell as Ferruccio Mazzola will all be called to reveal what was behind La Grande Inter's success, in Italy and the World, during the 60's. Ferruccio added: "I haven't longed for a trial. I just happen to be involved now. All the truth will finally be made public".
Q: What are you referring to Mr Mazzola?
Ferruccio Mazzola: Even if just a bench player, I was part of that Inter too. I've seen with my eyes how player were treated. I saw Helenio Herrera providing pills that were to be placed under our tongues. He used to experiment on us bench players only to later give them to the first team players. Some of us would eventually spit them. It was my brother Sandro that suggested me that if I had no intention of taking them, to just run to the toilette and spit them. Eventually Herrera found out and decided to dilute them in coffee. From that day on "Il Caffè Herrera" became a habit at Inter.
Q: What was inside those pills:
A: Don't know for sure but I believe anphetamins. Once, after a Caffè Herrera, it was prior to a Como vs Inter (1967), I suffered 3 days and nights in a state of complete allucinations, just like an epilletic. Nowdays, everybody denies, even Sandro......
Q: Your brother?
A: Yes Sandro and I, since I decided to speak out, simply don't talk to eachother. He says that dirty laudry should be washed at home, on the contrarary, I believe that it's right to speak out, above all for a number of my former teamates, a number of which are either very sick or dead.
Q: To whom are you referring too:
A: The first was Armando Picchi, captain of the team, that died aged 36 due to a cancer. Then came Marcello Giusti, a reserve player, that died for a brain cancer during the 90's. Carlo Tagnin, a great player that would never refuse a pill, since he wanted to further his career as long as possible, he died in year 2000.
Mauro Bicicli and Ferdinando Miniussi have left us respectively in 2001 and 2002. Enea Masiero, with Inter from 1955 to 1964, is undertaking chemotherapy, whilst Pino Longoni is on a wheel chair.
Q: But for Picchi and Tagnin, all the other players are not that famous.
A: That's cause us bench players would take more of those damned white pills, were treated as cavies. I talked about all this in my autobiography ('Il terzo incomodo', scritto con Fabrizio Càlzia, Bradipolibri 2004), that eventually lead to the opening of athe Rome trail.
Q: Why?
A: Cause after the book was published, I was sued by Inter President Mr Facchetti. They want to go in front of a jury? Very well, the 19th of November, their will be a 2nd hearing. All the players of that team, I mean all the players that are still alive, have a choice to testify. I just want to see if they won't have the courage to say the truth under oath.
Q: Weren't you once freids with Facchetti?
A: Yes, let's just leave Facchetti out of this, I'd have to mention heavy stuff.
Q: Do you think that after the trial we will have another kind of image upon that winning Inter?
A: Frankly, I don't know and I'm not interested. If I wanted to cause real damage to Inter, within the book, I could have added a number of other episodes. I could have added details about fixed matches and bribed referees, especially in Cup ties. Never mind......
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Italian champions that have made the history of Football, will be called to testify in front of Rome's tribunal on doping. Sandro Mazzola, Mariolino Corso, Luis Suarez, Tarcisio Burnich, Gianfranco Bedin, Angelo Domenghini, Aristide Guarneri aswell as Ferruccio Mazzola will all be called to reveal what was behind La Grande Inter's success, in Italy and the World, during the 60's. Ferruccio added: "I haven't longed for a trial. I just happen to be involved now. All the truth will finally be made public".
Q: What are you referring to Mr Mazzola?
Ferruccio Mazzola: Even if just a bench player, I was part of that Inter too. I've seen with my eyes how player were treated. I saw Helenio Herrera providing pills that were to be placed under our tongues. He used to experiment on us bench players only to later give them to the first team players. Some of us would eventually spit them. It was my brother Sandro that suggested me that if I had no intention of taking them, to just run to the toilette and spit them. Eventually Herrera found out and decided to dilute them in coffee. From that day on "Il Caffè Herrera" became a habit at Inter.
Q: What was inside those pills:
A: Don't know for sure but I believe anphetamins. Once, after a Caffè Herrera, it was prior to a Como vs Inter (1967), I suffered 3 days and nights in a state of complete allucinations, just like an epilletic. Nowdays, everybody denies, even Sandro......
Q: Your brother?
A: Yes Sandro and I, since I decided to speak out, simply don't talk to eachother. He says that dirty laudry should be washed at home, on the contrarary, I believe that it's right to speak out, above all for a number of my former teamates, a number of which are either very sick or dead.
Q: To whom are you referring too:
A: The first was Armando Picchi, captain of the team, that died aged 36 due to a cancer. Then came Marcello Giusti, a reserve player, that died for a brain cancer during the 90's. Carlo Tagnin, a great player that would never refuse a pill, since he wanted to further his career as long as possible, he died in year 2000.
Mauro Bicicli and Ferdinando Miniussi have left us respectively in 2001 and 2002. Enea Masiero, with Inter from 1955 to 1964, is undertaking chemotherapy, whilst Pino Longoni is on a wheel chair.
Q: But for Picchi and Tagnin, all the other players are not that famous.
A: That's cause us bench players would take more of those damned white pills, were treated as cavies. I talked about all this in my autobiography ('Il terzo incomodo', scritto con Fabrizio Càlzia, Bradipolibri 2004), that eventually lead to the opening of athe Rome trail.
Q: Why?
A: Cause after the book was published, I was sued by Inter President Mr Facchetti. They want to go in front of a jury? Very well, the 19th of November, their will be a 2nd hearing. All the players of that team, I mean all the players that are still alive, have a choice to testify. I just want to see if they won't have the courage to say the truth under oath.
Q: Weren't you once freids with Facchetti?
A: Yes, let's just leave Facchetti out of this, I'd have to mention heavy stuff.
Q: Do you think that after the trial we will have another kind of image upon that winning Inter?
A: Frankly, I don't know and I'm not interested. If I wanted to cause real damage to Inter, within the book, I could have added a number of other episodes. I could have added details about fixed matches and bribed referees, especially in Cup ties. Never mind......
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I have to admit, he sounds very believable...
I hope it's not true but he makes it sound like he's just someone mistreated by them so now he's a stool pigeon....
He deserves no respect for ratting them out, he's just another Sammy Gravano. But if the players have the courage to deny the ellgations on an oath, on a BIBLE, then we can say it's false... that's my opinion.
I hope it's not true but he makes it sound like he's just someone mistreated by them so now he's a stool pigeon....
He deserves no respect for ratting them out, he's just another Sammy Gravano. But if the players have the courage to deny the ellgations on an oath, on a BIBLE, then we can say it's false... that's my opinion.
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It's intersting to see what happens..
Great post Handoyo!
Great post Handoyo!
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Tommi said:So, it´s La Grande Inter = "Il Caffè Herrera"
Not surprised about this at all.
That´s true. I´ve seen this before and i´m not surprised about it. Whenever Inter player is accused of using dope, most of our fans say it was just a mistake and he took it accidentally, but when it´s about Juve - then it´s all intentional. Seems most of us have double standards...Juventinos said:but if the book was about Juve...
Yeah same sentiments here. I am just glad the current Inter organization is clean. Sure we have a checkered past but we must learn from it. The Grande Inter of the 60s is not as 'clean' as its supposed to be, with many accusing Angelo Moratti of bribery also.