Italian Serie A 2023/2024

[wera]

If we continue to drop points against teams like Sassuolo and Bologna we aint winning it, thats what I said.

2021–22 AC Milan season - Wikipedia

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when Milan won the league, they lost to Sassuolo and drew to Bologna

They only reached first place in game on gameweek 16, then they got it back in gameweek 25 and finally, gameweek 28

So what I'm telling you, who is first right now doesn't matter.

 

[CafeCordoba]

If we continue to drop points against teams like Sassuolo and Bologna we aint winning it, thats what I said.

You could also say if we continue as we've done in this season (in these past 8 games), we gonna hit 90 points. That's a bigger sample size than your Sassuolo and Bologna. Why do you take only those two games (they weren't even played after each other) as your sample size, to create this kind of narrative. After Sassuolo we won Salernitana away 0-4 and destroyed Benfica game-wise (despite the 1-0 result). Pure alarmism.

 

[bubba zanetti]

If we continue to drop points against teams like Sassuolo and Bologna we aint winning it. Do you need translator or what

 

[wera]

If we continue to drop points against teams like Sassuolo and Bologna we aint winning it. Do you need translator or what

I just proved to you that you can drop points to them and still win the league. I rather drop points to them than my main rivals for the Scudetto and even that might not matter all that much.

 

[ElDuccio]

we often had a great start, we were first till decembre/january and then ended second like in the milan scudetto year or even fifth like with Mancini.
Everything can happen. With Conte we were also not dominant till the second part of the season where we started to create a gap. And as i always said, part of the reaons of that was because Eriksen and Perisic improved. This year we have a lot of new players. Give them time and they could also make us stronger.

 

[bubba zanetti]

I just proved to you that you can drop points to them and still win the league. I rather drop points to them than my main rivals for the Scudetto and even that might not matter all that much.

You didnt prove anything. My point was you cannot afford continuation of losing pts against mid and bottom teams, especially at home. This is a third season we are making same mistakes. If we dont change something on that matter, we aint winning second star before beelan. But its good to find some stats to make you feel better.

 

[Besnik]

Another evidence that goal should have been canceled. Except of clear handball by Pulisic, there is also this foul on Genoa player by Giroud. Maybe it was a soft push, but still enough to ruin his balance and make him fail reaching that ball.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1711124348919071181

 

[wera]

You didnt prove anything. My point was you cannot afford continuation of losing pts against mid and bottom teams, especially at home. This is a third season we are making same mistakes. If we dont change something on that matter, we aint winning second star before beelan. But its good to find some stats to make you feel better.

So why can Milan win a Scudetto while losing points to EXACTLY the same opponents? Not just that, exact record of losing to Sassuolo and drawing to Bologna.

But if that wasn't enough, let's look at last season - Napoli lost points to Fiorentina, Lecce, Inter, Lazio, Milan, Verona, Salernitana, Udinese, Monza, Bologna. They also fucked up their first Coppa match against Cremonese.

Even tho Napoli lost points against Lecce, Salernitana, Udinese, Monza and Bologna, they had an amazing season overall. They won the league comfortably.

If we continue like we started with these first 8 games, we will have a similar record to the last 4 Serie A winners.

 

[CoolMan44]

There is no special formula to win the league. Every winner goes through a dry spell or loses to 'inferior' opponents. Even in Conte's Scudetto season, we failed to win 4 of our first 7 games. In Mourinho's treble season, we couldn't beat 10th place Bari in either match. 19th placed Siena probably gave us two of our toughest games that season - once we needed to win 4-3 when being down 2-3 after 87 minutes, and the final match with the Milito winner - we also had a scare with them close to equalizing in that match.

I'm not trying to suggest that this Inter is as good as those two teams or anything like that, but just saying that you never know what will happen over a 9-month season. I remember last season, a lot of people also thought Milan would get their second star and Napoli would choke. I believe we beat Napoli in January and their lead was cut to only 5 points. But after that, both us and Milan fell into terrible runs where it seemed like neither team could beat anyone. Milan conceded 2 against Roma, 2 against Lecce, 4 against Lazio, 5 against Sassuolo, etc. We had that run where we couldn't score against anyone (three 1-0 home losses against Juventus, Fiorentina, Monza back to back).

I've been guilty of this myself as last season after the Salernitana/Monza matches (we got 1 point out of 6), I thought no way this team makes top 4. Our last 7 games of the season included Lazio, Roma, Sassuolo, Napoli, Atalanta, Torino. We couldn't score or beat anyone and I thought no way we make it. Yet we ended up with 7 wins out of 8, and this is with playing Correa almost every game.

Form changes very quickly in a season. Last season there was a period where it looked like we cannot beat anyone, but right after that, it looked like we could beat anyone, whether CL knockout game or a Serie A game, and that's with a lot of 'backup players' playing.

I also would not count out Juventus. They may not look particularly great but with no Europe, you never know. When they lost to Sassuolo, they looked awful. But 3 games after that, and they had 3 clean sheets, and are 2 points behind us. Not to mention Sassuolo, even when they sell players, generally are difficult for big teams.

I think as Inter fans, we always look at our team in a harsher way. When we beat Empoli 1-0, most comments are how we are out of form, we need to improve, etc. When Milan beats Genoa 1-0, it's mostly about how these are the wins that get you Scudetto. Same was said last season when Juventus had that period of 7 wins, most of them 1-0. The consensus are that it's what Scudetto winners do. I remember a lot of people thought they would actually beat Napoli in January (I thought the same was possible), and Napoli went and beat them 5-1.

This doesn't mean that we will win the Scudetto. Milan could win it, Juventus can win it, and so can we. We do have issues that we need to sort out but every team does or will over the course of a season. I think that for Inzaghi's style of play to work, rotation is very important. It's important that he starts trusting guys like Asllani, Klaassen, Augusto, etc. to start a number of matches. We don't want to end up having our main players out of form or tired and then rely on players who haven't had much of a chance to play.

 

[delaurentis]

You are both right - it's to early to judge right now and other scudetto winning teams have also fucked up during the season.
On the other hand, it's not acceptable to have 1 out of 6 against Bologna and Sass.
At the end of the season this could prove costly for Inter to win the scudetto. So it doesn't matter if they lose on the 8th game of the season or the 32nd. Points remain points;

With the experience Inter build up in the last seasons I expect them to know this fully well by now.

 

[wera]

Look, at least it was Sassuolo and Bologna and not two teams that are considerably worse. They already caused problems to Napoli, Inter and Juventus.

It's not an easy league to win nowadays. There are multiple good teams in it to win it, a bunch of nasty "midtable" teams that can reach a top4 finish or cause problems to potential winners (Lazio, Atalanta, Fiorentina, Roma, Sassuolo, Bologna) ... It's going to be a good season to watch, I'm sure

 

[thatdude]

There is no special formula to win the league. Every winner goes through a dry spell or loses to 'inferior' opponents. Even in Conte's Scudetto season, we failed to win 4 of our first 7 games. In Mourinho's treble season, we couldn't beat 10th place Bari in either match. 19th placed Siena probably gave us two of our toughest games that season - once we needed to win 4-3 when being down 2-3 after 87 minutes, and the final match with the Milito winner - we also had a scare with them close to equalizing in that match.

I'm not trying to suggest that this Inter is as good as those two teams or anything like that, but just saying that you never know what will happen over a 9-month season. I remember last season, a lot of people also thought Milan would get their second star and Napoli would choke. I believe we beat Napoli in January and their lead was cut to only 5 points. But after that, both us and Milan fell into terrible runs where it seemed like neither team could beat anyone. Milan conceded 2 against Roma, 2 against Lecce, 4 against Lazio, 5 against Sassuolo, etc. We had that run where we couldn't score against anyone (three 1-0 home losses against Juventus, Fiorentina, Monza back to back).

I've been guilty of this myself as last season after the Salernitana/Monza matches (we got 1 point out of 6), I thought no way this team makes top 4. Our last 7 games of the season included Lazio, Roma, Sassuolo, Napoli, Atalanta, Torino. We couldn't score or beat anyone and I thought no way we make it. Yet we ended up with 7 wins out of 8, and this is with playing Correa almost every game.

Form changes very quickly in a season. Last season there was a period where it looked like we cannot beat anyone, but right after that, it looked like we could beat anyone, whether CL knockout game or a Serie A game, and that's with a lot of 'backup players' playing.

I also would not count out Juventus. They may not look particularly great but with no Europe, you never know. When they lost to Sassuolo, they looked awful. But 3 games after that, and they had 3 clean sheets, and are 2 points behind us. Not to mention Sassuolo, even when they sell players, generally are difficult for big teams.

I think as Inter fans, we always look at our team in a harsher way. When we beat Empoli 1-0, most comments are how we are out of form, we need to improve, etc. When Milan beats Genoa 1-0, it's mostly about how these are the wins that get you Scudetto. Same was said last season when Juventus had that period of 7 wins, most of them 1-0. The consensus are that it's what Scudetto winners do. I remember a lot of people thought they would actually beat Napoli in January (I thought the same was possible), and Napoli went and beat them 5-1.

This doesn't mean that we will win the Scudetto. Milan could win it, Juventus can win it, and so can we. We do have issues that we need to sort out but every team does or will over the course of a season. I think that for Inzaghi's style of play to work, rotation is very important. It's important that he starts trusting guys like Asllani, Klaassen, Augusto, etc. to start a number of matches. We don't want to end up having our main players out of form or tired and then rely on players who haven't had much of a chance to play.

Agree with everything said here. The only thing I would say is that I think some of the comments about Milan are because they have proven it. With this core of players and this manager. No other team in the league has the same manager or same core of players that have won a Scudetto together. That’s why I think people are more likely to give them the benefit of the doubt when they win ugly.

 

[Universe]

There is no special formula to win the league. Every winner goes through a dry spell or loses to 'inferior' opponents. Even in Conte's Scudetto season, we failed to win 4 of our first 7 games. In Mourinho's treble season, we couldn't beat 10th place Bari in either match. 19th placed Siena probably gave us two of our toughest games that season - once we needed to win 4-3 when being down 2-3 after 87 minutes, and the final match with the Milito winner - we also had a scare with them close to equalizing in that match.

I'm not trying to suggest that this Inter is as good as those two teams or anything like that, but just saying that you never know what will happen over a 9-month season. I remember last season, a lot of people also thought Milan would get their second star and Napoli would choke. I believe we beat Napoli in January and their lead was cut to only 5 points. But after that, both us and Milan fell into terrible runs where it seemed like neither team could beat anyone. Milan conceded 2 against Roma, 2 against Lecce, 4 against Lazio, 5 against Sassuolo, etc. We had that run where we couldn't score against anyone (three 1-0 home losses against Juventus, Fiorentina, Monza back to back).

I've been guilty of this myself as last season after the Salernitana/Monza matches (we got 1 point out of 6), I thought no way this team makes top 4. Our last 7 games of the season included Lazio, Roma, Sassuolo, Napoli, Atalanta, Torino. We couldn't score or beat anyone and I thought no way we make it. Yet we ended up with 7 wins out of 8, and this is with playing Correa almost every game.

Form changes very quickly in a season. Last season there was a period where it looked like we cannot beat anyone, but right after that, it looked like we could beat anyone, whether CL knockout game or a Serie A game, and that's with a lot of 'backup players' playing.

I also would not count out Juventus. They may not look particularly great but with no Europe, you never know. When they lost to Sassuolo, they looked awful. But 3 games after that, and they had 3 clean sheets, and are 2 points behind us. Not to mention Sassuolo, even when they sell players, generally are difficult for big teams.

I think as Inter fans, we always look at our team in a harsher way. When we beat Empoli 1-0, most comments are how we are out of form, we need to improve, etc. When Milan beats Genoa 1-0, it's mostly about how these are the wins that get you Scudetto. Same was said last season when Juventus had that period of 7 wins, most of them 1-0. The consensus are that it's what Scudetto winners do. I remember a lot of people thought they would actually beat Napoli in January (I thought the same was possible), and Napoli went and beat them 5-1.

This doesn't mean that we will win the Scudetto. Milan could win it, Juventus can win it, and so can we. We do have issues that we need to sort out but every team does or will over the course of a season. I think that for Inzaghi's style of play to work, rotation is very important. It's important that he starts trusting guys like Asllani, Klaassen, Augusto, etc. to start a number of matches. We don't want to end up having our main players out of form or tired and then rely on players who haven't had much of a chance to play.

Great post!

4th place it is.

 

[forzainter257]

Except Inzaghi aint Conte who can grab everyone by their balls or Mourinho who can fire up the team with some speech if the scudetto is at risk

 

[Nero Indigo]

Lol it’s too early my ass. Inzaghi has proven to do the opposite of what people expect him to do when we start saying he’ll win the scudetto he fucks it up, when we say he’ll crash out of the CL he gets to the final. We should probably all just doom and gloom till the end of the season regardless of all results and we’ll probably win the treble again

 

[CafeCordoba]

This raging and moaning is nothing but people trying to feel better so they need to vent the disgusting feeling of uncertainty somewhere.

We are not leading the league so it's absolutely terrible feeling as we should be doing that from the start to the end. I mean, did you people really expected that at the beginning of the season? That we would just sail to the Scudetto without any worries?

 

[ADRossi]

This raging and moaning is nothing but people trying to feel better so they need to vent the disgusting feeling of uncertainty somewhere.

We are not leading the league so it's absolutely terrible feeling as we should be doing that from the start to the end. I mean, did you people really expected that at the beginning of the season? That we would just sail to the Scudetto without any worries?

I expected us to not drop points at home to Sassuolo and Bologna.

 

[Besnik]

I expected us to not drop points at home to Sassuolo and Bologna.

You probably expected us to lose against Milan, didn't you?

 

[ADRossi]

You probably expected us to lose against Milan, didn't you?

I predicted us to win, which you could have heard on Inter Jections!

 

[Jnr]

Milan will wear the favorite tag from January on anyway if they crash out vs PSG. PSG is so unpredictable rn. Trashed in Newcastle, then won 3-1 in Rennes, whom they lost 2x last year. We will have extra 2 supercup matches, probably UCL knockouts etc. Both still in Coppa with potential derby semis to face off.

They will buy players in January and we will too( striker);The real scudetto dog fight starts when UCL knockouts will begin. Its important to be close to top spots . I don't see a reason to stress out in the middle of October when overall our seasonal start is so much better compared to last year.