Italian Serie A 2017/2018

[Ronaldo]

I hope they give him more than 1 match ban so he won't play against us

 

[Abdulla]

Can't believe this week's results, a draw changed absolutely nothing for us, in fact we gained a point against Lazio. unbelievable

 

[ADRossi]

What did Immobile do to get sent off?

 

[brehme1989]

Lazio without Immobile will get beat by Atalanta. Then we will face them. Real good chance to open up a big gap.

Looks like Felipe Anderson is really back, they might look much different now.

 

[Ronaldo]

Man! Lazio got screwed hard! That was a definite penalty and right in front of the ref! How did he not call it?!

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What did Immobile do to get sent off?

http://www.football-italia.net/114145/luis-alberto-claims-conspiracy

Watch it here.

 

[JJM]

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:trollol:

 

[thoriq_r9]

Not sure if VAR reviewed the handball incident before the red card, but I think that is borderline penalty. Didn't seem deliberate and might be too close to avoid, but his arm had no business there, clearly obstructing the path of the ball.
Immobile's red card, on the other hand, is pretty much justified.

 

[firmino]

anyways, all the good for us. they lost and their best striker might be suspended for two games.

 

[brehme1989]

Haha Perisic on his instagram posted the video of the handball and says (in French for some odd reason, probably Benatia's native language) even Falque didn't want to touch the ball

 

[JJM]

 

[ElDiego22]

Today was a good match week.

 

[Bluenine]

IMO the refs these days are taking the "Ball to hand" argument too literally. It wasn't like this 10-20 years ago, when most handballs in the area would result in a penalty. I think the logical solution is somewhere inbwteen:

1. If a player has his arms stretched like in that Lazio game, that would be a foul/penalty whether its deliberate or not. Defenders need to put their arms behind them when defending.

2. If a hand blocks a shot on the goal, that needs to be a penalty as well even if its not deliberate. It may seem unfair to the defender (like the Inter penalty appeal against Juve) but it did stop what could have been a goal.

IMO whether the handball is deliberate or not should determine whether the defender gets a yellow/red card or not. The penalty decision should be more based on whether the hand stopped a goal, even if it was not deliberate.

 

[K.I.]

The Inter one hit his ankle first, thats why it wasnt a penalty. But i agree with you though.

 

[n4l]

Lazio overreacting tbh. The pk is arguable but not cheating. Falque was literally within 1 ft of Immobile. Literally. Players run. The mechanics of running require your arms to be out for balance. When you stretch or try to slide, the mechanics of your body to remain balanced means your arms go in the opposite direction. So arms will be up/flailing. What the ref has to determine is whether it was unnatural and if it is, determine whether the player had enough time to react and move his hand. In this case, he clearly didn't.

Immobile's red is 100% obvious. You can't even argue that. I love how the articles try to downplay what he did by saying he "attempted" a headbutt

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IMO the refs these days are taking the "Ball to hand" argument too literally. It wasn't like this 10-20 years ago, when most handballs in the area would result in a penalty. I think the logical solution is somewhere inbwteen:

1. If a player has his arms stretched like in that Lazio game, that would be a foul/penalty whether its deliberate or not. Defenders need to put their arms behind them when defending.

2. If a hand blocks a shot on the goal, that needs to be a penalty as well even if its not deliberate. It may seem unfair to the defender (like the Inter penalty appeal against Juve) but it did stop what could have been a goal.

IMO whether the handball is deliberate or not should determine whether the defender gets a yellow/red card or not. The penalty decision should be more based on whether the hand stopped a goal, even if it was not deliberate.

Please explain to me how you can run at full speed with your arms behind your back. Or try to slide tackle or even stretch tackle with your hands behind your back.

 

[Javier'sSon]

Please explain to me how you can run at full speed with your arms behind your back. Or try to slide tackle or even stretch tackle with your hands behind your back.

 

[ADRossi]

lol hoping Immobile gets a multiple game ban

 

[CoolMan44]

I think n4l males a good point. By saying layers should always keep their hands behind their bacK in the box, you're giving a distinct advantage to the attacker. If an attacker makes a turn or change of pace, it's almost impossible for a defender to actually defend since turning or trying to run while your hands are behind your back would not work. In this case the shot was from so close away, I wouldn't be surprised if Immobile was actually just trying to aim for his hand.

 

[K.I.]

when ur running you can help it, its only when the defender is face to face and close enough that they can keep their hands behind their back or to their side, regardless if its intentional its a clear penalty, and if you didnt use VAR to check that, then you shouldn't have checked the head nudging as well, as also Burdisso mentioned that nothing happened.

Its hard to say that its a conspiracy though as they were playing against Torino.

EDIT: Unless he is a closet Roma fan

 

[CoolMan44]

Apparently the ref had a facebook account and his display picture was Totti taking a penalty last season in the 93rd minute in Roma - Sampdoria, a penalty that the same referee as yesterday gave as a Skriniar foul on Dzeko and Roma won 3-2.

After Lazio fans dug it up, the profile was deactivated.

 

[K.I.]

Ok i stand corrected, i am interested now.