Italian Serie A 2011/2012

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It wasn't the ref, it was a fan...
 

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Anyone know any good site I can check PK stats on previous seasons?
Eurosports used to do it but they no longer provide the service (or I can't find it).

I remember Juve having almost 4 times the average PK given during 0405 oe 0506. I just want some stats to back me up.
Thanks in advance.
 

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With only one more point we would be incredibly closer to the 3rd spot!:(
 

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I need to pray Lecce gets relegated... I don't want to see the unthinkable of both Genoa teams in Serie B. Lecce seems so useless to be in Serie A.

If you have only been a fan for a few years, then why are you so dramatic? lol

1997-98: Sampdoria - Serie A, Genoa - Serie B
1998-99: Sampdoria - Serie A, Genoa - Serie B
1999-00: Both teams in Serie B
2000-01: Both teams in Serie B
2001-02: Both teams in Serie B
2002-03: Both teams in Serie B
2003-04: Sampdoria - Serie A, Genoa - Serie B
2004-05: Sampdoria - Serie A, Genoa - Serie B
2005-06: Sampdoria - Serie A, Genoa - Serie C1
2006-07: Sampdoria - Serie A, Genoa - Serie B
2007-08: Both teams in Serie A
2008-09: Both teams in Serie A
2009-10: Both teams in Serie A
2010-11: Both teams in Serie A
2011-12: Genoa - Serie A, Sampdoria - Serie B

In the last 15 seasons, the two teams have only been in Serie A together for 4 years. They were in Serie B together for just as long. I know you make posts like this because you think the old time Serie A fans (like my father, etc.) feel this way, but it is quite annoying. Having both Genoa teams in Serie B is not unthinkable for me who has been following the league for close to 20 years, why would it be unthinkable to someone like you??

I think I get what you are trying to do, but you come off as a drama queen instead...

To older people and new people to the Serie A, Genoa may seem like a Serie A team, but they have always felt like a small team to me. IMO, they lost their luster back in the 60's...ever since then, their history has went like this: Few seasons in Serie A, double that amount in Serie B/C, few seasons in Serie A, double that amount in Serie B/C, etc. They have celebrated 5 straight seasons in Serie A now, if they remain true to the cycle, it will be long time before we see them again if they go down this season.
 

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I started watching Italian football in the mid 90s so in my mind, Sampdoria was always a bigger and better club than Genoa to me. It's why I was so shocked that Sampdoria went down to Serie B last season, I just wasn't used to the concept of Samp being humiliated by their local rivals in the league. It's just my perception, maybe I'm totally wrong. It's just another example of how a fact can mean different things to different people...
 

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I didn't know people actually paid attention to the relegation battles. :lol:

The only clubs that will ever surprise me if they are relegated are Inter, Roma, Milan, and Lazio. Jube should be relegated.
 

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I didn't know people actually paid attention to the relegation battles. :lol:

The only clubs that will ever surprise me if they are relegated are Inter, Roma, Milan, and Lazio. Jube should be relegated.
I would add Fiorentina to that list, despite the fact they're barely above the drop zone right now.

Look at the players on their team! Jovetic, Vargas, Montolivo, Cerci, Kharja, Gamberini, Boruc...how can a team with players like that end up so dangerously close to relegation? The only way I'd expect them to be relegated is if they went bankrupt...again...
 

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Look at the players on their team! Jovetic, Vargas, Montolivo, Cerci, Kharja, Gamberini, Boruc...how can a team with players like that end up so dangerously close to relegation? The only way I'd expect them to be relegated is if they went bankrupt...again...

:notbad:

He just scored an own goal against me on FIFA...

but yeah, you're right. They really should never be dropped either.
 

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Soooo...I read we got a whopping 20,000 Euro fine, for God knows what, any truth to this? Alleged racist chants and the banners. I only remember seeing Milans banner I don't think Fox even bothered to show ours. What could have been so bad?
 

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Soooo...I read we got a whopping 20,000 Euro fine, for God knows what, any truth to this? Alleged racist chants and the banners

20,000?!?!?

Fuck, there goes Ali Karimi's wage. :(
 

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Milan (10k) and Inter (20k) were both fined for banners insulting each other (not the curva coreo, just smaller stuff), and Inter were fined extra for some alleged racial shouts/chants directed at Muntari.
 

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The bianconeri have been match fixing!



Unfortunately, it's not Rubentus, it's Siena. Along with Novara and Atalanta, again...

The other non top-flight teams involved are AlbinoLeffe, Ancona, Ascoli, Avesa, Cremonese, Empoli, Frosinone, Grosseto, Livorno, Modena, Monza, Padova, Pescara, Piacenza, Ravenna, Reggina, Rimini, Sampdoria and Spezia. Notice how Torino isn't in that list, I'm happy with that :)

But this is disgraceful, it seems almost every year now Serie B is embroiled in match fixing scandals. What a joke the lower leagues are becoming in Italy.
 

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it's just an investigation, as of now there is no match fixing
 

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it's just an investigation, as of now there is no match fixing
That may be so, but i find it hard to believe all parties involve will walk away proven innocent, match fixing has been rife in Italy for years unfortunately and it's a problem the FIGC just can't seem to stamp out. If someone doesn't fix these core issues Serie A will never regain its reputation for being the best league in the world (EPL only has this mantle because of the stupid amounts of money Sky pumped into it).
 

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Ugh. It never ends.
 
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