Inter's Financial Situation

[Black&Blue]

How is the Spanish league so rich? What sets it apart from Serie A?

the unique differences are Real Madrid and Barcelona,the other teams are full of debts (although they have better stadiums than us in Italy,look at Valencia or Athletic Bilbao for example,not only Nou Camp or Bernabeu,and just like England or Germany they own their stadiums)

 

[Black&Blue]

No we don't. The difference between serie a and the epl is the stadiums and marketing. EPL teams generate huge amounts from their stadiums on match days while we generate very little which is why we need the new stadium. Serie a's marketing is pathetic compared to the epl which also makes a big difference.

Stadiums and marketing are just one of reasons of why EPL is the richest and the most important league in the world (EPL produces even more than NBA!)

 

[Stefan]

Spot on Stefan..

We lack in the marketing,and not just compared to EPL and La Liga but even in comparison to Roma,Milan and Juve if you can believe it.

We also lack in TV rights,that will change however in the next two years.

We lack in Stadium attendances,which the other two leagues dont in addition to the German league,which usually has the best attendances.

We lack in stadium revenues because we dont own the stadium and not only do we have to pay rent,we cant utilize it for other kind of revenue streams either unlikes the teams that own the stadium.

Once you factor all these things,you will find that we are lucky to have the best owner when it comes to spending in any football club,handsdown:star:

I wish however we could do things better running the club better marketing wise and being able to open new revenue horizons to make us even better.

Agree with most ziyad except that we are behind roma,juve and milan as far as marketing goes. I mean roma's website doesn't even have an english version. We have also made massive strides in establishing the club in china. As far as serie a clubs go I would say our marketing is good.

My comment about marketing was more the league itself and all the clubs. I mean how can you hope to capture a global audience when a lot of your clubs don't have an english version of their website?? That's basic and then you actually need to update it regularly(looking at you inter.it).

 

[Ziyad]

Stefan,
U might not notice it from here.But i urge you to go into the both the Inter store and the Roma store.HUGE difference...Hell even the Milan side of the San Siro store is much better than ours.I was there for sometime looking at the different products and our side doesnt have many of the things in store that are on the website.Hell they didnt have long sleeve jersies in the middle of winter..TO me that is ill equipped..

Another thing if you are comparing to Roma please take into consideration the star power and financial backing each has and you will see that we are not getting the max out of our Euro..

As for outside of Italy i can tell you that you will find more Juve and Milan merchandise here in the middle east that you would of Inter.This is even during the year that Juve was in Serie B believe it or not..The same applies in London in any footballing shop including Nike town.

Being ahead in the China market is fine but we need more out of our euro when it comes to marketing..

 

[Black&Blue]

Stefan,
U might not notice it from here.But i urge you to go into the both the Inter store and the Roma store.HUGE difference...Hell even the Milan side of the San Siro store is much better than ours.I was there for sometime looking at the different products and our side doesnt have many of the things in store that are on the website.Hell they didnt have long sleeve jersies in the middle of winter..TO me that is ill equipped..

Another thing if you are comparing to Roma please take into consideration the star power and financial backing each has and you will see that we are not getting the max out of our Euro..

As for outside of Italy i can tell you that you will find more Juve and Milan merchandise here in the middle east that you would of Inter.This is even during the year that Juve was in Serie B believe it or not..The same applies in London in any footballing shop including Nike town.

Being ahead in the China market is fine but we need more out of our euro when it comes to marketing..

Merchandise is a legend,Inter website is the most visited between all italian clubs in the world,so this means we have much more fans than Milan,Juventus,etc. as shops and likes,you must see the new Winterstore opened lately in Milan,it's fucking awesome.

 

[Ziyad]

We know we have the fanbase..We need that to translate into $$$ more. With the fans we have,the star power we have and appeal,there is no way IMHO that we are fullfilling our marketing potential.

 

[Suneet]

If anyone wants to get me a job, I will make the Inter store better than Meeelans.

I completely agree with Ziyad, we just need to spend a few million on marketing our club, maybe buy a newspaper in Italy first.

 

[Nyall]

Stadiums and marketing are just one of reasons of why EPL is the richest and the most important league in the world (EPL produces even more than NBA!)

The NBA is nothing. If you could prove that it produced more than the MLB or NFL then I would be impressed.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Stefan,

As for outside of Italy i can tell you that you will find more Juve and Milan merchandise here in the middle east that you would of Inter.This is even during the year that Juve was in Serie B believe it or not..The same applies in London in any footballing shop including Nike town.

Being ahead in the China market is fine but we need more out of our euro when it comes to marketing..

Yep, that is an interesting fact. Wherever I've been in Europe, there's Juve and Milan, but hardly Inter. Those two have simply created the status of theirs in the market with their previous success years. Maybe that is going to change a bit, but at the same time the glory of Serie A is declining so we are not getting all the advantage of being the first in Italy.

Also that comparison to Milan, Juve, Roma, the one aspect is sponsorship deals. We don't have many Italians and I'm sure that is affecting too in making deals in Italy. That's why we have to hope Santon and Balotelli will be our new center figures and important players. Them being Italian star players will most probably generate more money than foreigners.

We are putting effort to Asian market and that's good since there's the new spending potential.

 

[Black&Blue]

Inter nowdays is the richest club and with much more power and appeal in the market in Italy and one of the richest in Europe (although not on the same level of Man City,Man United,Chelsea,Real Madrid,Barcelona and probably Bayern Munchen),merchandising or stadiums are just a minimal part of the business,look at a club like Ajax that owns one of the most beautiful modern stadiums in the World like the Amsterdam Arena and then look at their financial situation,and then you'll get the point.

 

[Ziyad]

Inter nowdays is the richest club and with much more power and appeal in the market in Italy and one of the richest in Europe (although not on the same level of Man City,Man United,Chelsea,Real Madrid,Barcelona and probably Bayern Munchen),merchandising or stadiums are just a minimal part of the business,look at a club like Ajax that owns one of the most beautiful modern stadiums in the World like the Amsterdam Arena and then look at their financial situation,and then you'll get the point.

I hate to break it to you but Inter situation with the stadium is costing them around 70 million a year. I wouldnt know the merchandising numbers exactly but i would assume its another chunk of money that isnt a minimal part of the business...

As for Ajax having their own stadium and not running it well thats another story..Look at teams in the EPL that have fantastic revenues equaling our totals because they are..

 

[rsz85]

Latest Deloitte report about revenues (2008-09 season)

We are 9th, with 195 millions euro. Before, we were 10th (with 173 mill), this season managed to overtake Milan and Roma, but juve get in front of us.

This 195 million is about the same as the 06-07 season.

Real Madrid is brutal, they have more than 400 million revenue in 08-09. more than twice of ours....

 

[Stefan]

Interesting stats from the deloite report.

Our overall revenue increased 14% from the previous year. Our commercial income increased with 43% due to increased sponsorship deals from both nike and pirelli. Interesting the report only mentions redevelopment, nothing on the new stadium.

The major issue is still the match day income. With us only earning 14% as opposed to the top earners who at min earn 21%(bayern being the lowest) and clubs like chelsea earning 40%. We really need to up this especially with collective tv deals coming in.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I'm not sure if this works, but try to download the report here.

Yeah, this season is the last one for Italian top teams having their own broadcasting deals. Starting from next season, there will be a collective broadcasting deal for the whole Serie A. Better for the league generally, worse for single top clubs (Inter, Juve, Milan, Roma, Napoli, ... ).

That was indeed an interesting that nothing was said about the new stadium project. Hopefully it's just because there's been no official word at all regarding that plan and Deloitte has just based everything on official statements. It's clear that Italian FA have to somehow get stadiums at better state if they want to have EURO 2016 in Italy.

It's still worrying as Juventus will have their stadium ready in summer 2011, only 1 and ½ seasons from this moment (even if it will be rather small, 40k). We can't drag back too much longer. No official word yet, so hopefully that will arrive in the summer at the latest. Probably it takes time before they can start building it and it takes couple of years before it's ready for use. They started to build Juve stadium last summer so it's takes 2 years to get that stadium ready. No idea does it take longer to get a bigger stadium ready (something which has been in rumors for our new stadium).

So hopefully we can get our stadium plan ready soon and everything ready for the building phase. Might go to 2013 to get our stadium (if they really are going to do that).

Btw, English clubs' situation looks cemented but I don't think they will last there forever. There is so much going on behind the scenes, like with Liverpool's debts and ManU's debts. Both are related to American owners who don't have too much money for those clubs. Possible Arab owners are their salvation. Real and Barca are on their own level with Spain's taxation shit and those two clubs being their national treasures. The state won't fuck up with them (with some tax rules, bank loans, etc. etc.) and that's why there must be all kind of "financial doping" going on with those clubs. Hard to compete against them economically.

 

[Stefan]

The reports have always said our stadium would be in 2013/2014 at the earliest. But yeah hopefully we get official word soon.

I did try and upload the report so everyone can read it but the forum doesn't support pdf uploads.

 

[jmaster]

The reports have always said our stadium would be in 2013/2014 at the earliest. But yeah hopefully we get official word soon.

I did try and upload the report so everyone can read it but the forum doesn't support pdf uploads.

Did the stadium start to build?

 

[Victory]

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For many years, and Inter Milan have divided the field, stadium and stands. But in future, all will have a stadium of its own, leaving Milan (but is not sure) the stage of San Siro.
Obviously, the transfer will not happen immediately, partly because the new stadium will be built no earlier than 2013 but not after 2016. So it will be built and will have full functionality in full-term Expo. The dream team to have its own stadium could become reality.
Areas to choose from, there are many (not only the Expo exhibition area Rho-Pero), just that there is near a subway system in order to facilitate the inflow and outflow of supporters who decide to use public transport maybe leaving the car at home and avoiding going to affect the scourge of pollution. There should be a stage too big so that it is always full, partly because compared to Inter Milan this year was 9% in more fans than last year, and should be comfortable.
Ernesto Paolillo, Managing Director, puts his hands forward as regards the vexed issue of residents having already near San Siro complain many hardships during sporting events. The new stadium will not be seen as a nuisance for those who live in the area chosen for the construction. Meazza's experience will serve to avoid bringing in the new field the same mistakes, and will aim to provide the service area, which is lacking at the San Siro.
The president Massimo Moratti announced that the stadium could bring the name of one partner with whom you work on the project, as happens in England or Germany. For San Siro-Meazza, given the extent of names (it Meazza Giuseppe Meazza, historical player and a small period of Inter Milan), it is possible to make a speech like that.
Speaking of costs, will be around 160 million euros, which will fit easily thanks to the sponsors. However, will be the only way to leave Inter in the red budget, although you will have to wait at least 5 years to do it, time you They patch the accounts.

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Moratti to work for the new stadium but the fans do not want to leave San Siro
Inter could build its plant property, along the lines of major European clubs in the area between Park and Trenno Settimo Milanese, close by 'Giuseppe Meazza'.
The Nerazzurri club, as reported today by the newspaper 'Tuttosport', has already had some contacts with the Credit and Sport has commissioned an initial feasibility study to the Sports Investment Group, a company specializing in the creation and development of major sports arenas. There is even talk of a possible opening in 2014.
It seems increasingly certain, then, that the Nerazzurri club wants to have a stadium of its own. And 'since August 2004 that Massimo
Moratti, conquered by the beauty of 'Sankt Jakob' in Basel, has promised the Nerazzurri fans a more modern house. The new jewel Nerazzurri may be entitled to Giacinto Facchetti and Angelo Moratti and should have a capacity of 60,000. Ensured the presence of structures such as shopping centers and restaurants open seven days a week.
To move from planning to the operational, Inter expects final approval of the law on building new sports facilities, fired last week by the Senate, now waiting for the yes of the House.
The only ones not excited about the move are those over Inter, who absolutely do not want to leave San Siro. Also because the logic of the new facilities on the English model also implies a recovery of the presence of families and children to the stage thanks to the greater comfort and beauty of the stands, with the gradual reduction of free zones in the stands. Perhaps not please everyone ... .

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Among the projects, dates and areas here is the news on the new Inter stadium
Nicholas Gancikoff SIG provides: "Opening in 2014. Meanwhile, back the idea of building a new plant next to the Meazza
09.07.2009 14.45 by Christian Liotta article read 4739 times
Source: Sport Mediaset - Republic Milan
Between declarations of intent and important news at the institutional level, come good news on one of the future projects that are dear to both Inter, namely the construction of the new stadium to property. A project which is discussed for some time, and for whom today's news comes about two that seem to open an important new window of opportunity to its realization. The first comes from the words of Nicholas Gancikoff, leader of the Sports Investment Group, consultancies club for the construction of new stadiums. Gancikoff interviewed by Mediaset in a special issue dedicated to new stadiums, has said that the Nerazzurri fans should not wait much longer: "With a little 'optimistic, I think that Inter could inaugurate the new plant in 2014 . And then announces: "For the Nerazzurri club, we are designing a futuristic project, a center of entertainment."
The second piece of news if we are even more interesting, but comes from the Palazzo Marino, the seat of the Municipality of Milan, Milan Republic reported that it has resumed negotiations with Inter and AC Milan for the transfer of the San Siro stadium for rehabilitation, with the goal of hosting the Champions League final of 2015, the year of 'own Expo in Milan. But above all, is back in vogue, thanks to the gunfight at the OK League Soccer, the idea of building a new plant right next to the stadium Meazza, where now stands in the Hippodrome. Alfonso explains Cefaliello, representative for the Milan, the Consorzio San Siro: "Our priority is to restructure the Meazza to do to get to the level of European organizations such as shows us the example of Madrid. But, if part of a redesign of the 'area and a change of zoning there was a possibility, it would be foolish to deny that clubs like AC Milan and Inter are not thinking about a new stadium. "
The creation of the new stadium adjacent to the current one when the club was destined to Corso Vittorio Emanuele (Milan, as you would with the ownership of the Meazza) permanently solve the problem giving rise to the area where the new arena, after that, during time have been put forward several alternatives, such Rogoredo, Pear and last cases in temporal order, the Cascine Park in Pioltello. Plus, represents the culmination of the project to upgrade the entire area of San Siro, which starts from displacement, starting next season, fans also for visitors to the third ring of the Inter home matches, so you get new areas for new services, then expanded inside the square and then the area of the trot. News, these which inspire trust: the mechanism for the implementation of the new stadium all Inter could get under way soon.

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Inter, goodbye to San Siro
Moratti will take the stage
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By the end of the year should get the green light to the project. The model will be the Allianz Arena, home of Bayern Monaco. The new 60,000-seat multipurpose facility should be operational in 2012

MILAN, October 15, 2008 - Massimo Moratti will almost certainly man of great change in the entire house. The way to project a stadium owned by the club is indeed upon us. Everything has already been studied and planned in detail: the okay to funding is expected later this year, perhaps even for early December. Then, if everything were always downhill, Inter San Siro retire from season 2012-2013.
Models - Where to be born the new plant is still a secret guarded jealously by Moratti, though most signs point area Rho-Pero, the area close to highways and served well at the level of underground (red line). There would rise up the Olympic stadium if they went into port Milan's candidacy for the Games of 2000. Moratti wants to avoid building a cathedral in the desert, but in this - regardless of the location choice - can help a lot the recent awarding of Expo 2015 in Milan. A Palazzo Durini you think about a stadium of 60,000 seats, like plants dell'Ajax (Amsterdam ArenA, "five stars" Uefa, over 50,000 seats) and of Bayern Monaco (Allianz Arena, another "five stars" from just under 70,000 spectators). In particular, it seems the home of the Bavarian model of reference of the men of Massimo Moratti, a multipurpose facility with restaurants (from the finest self-service, ending with the classic pub), shopping area and even a nursery where you can " park "the puppets have little interest in the game. Areas of access (under the ticket purchased) are basically three: the boxes for private companies, the VIP area and that for large mass of fans.

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Moratti for the new stadium has a Portuguese model
Republic - August 14, 2004 Page 7 Section: LONDON

A Da Luz in Rozzano, or a José Alvalade in Sesto San Giovanni, and why not, a magnified Sankt Jakob in San Giuliano Milanese. L 'idea revived by Massimo Moratti, the' other night in Basel, is more than a sketch sketched on the napkin. is the confirmation that Inter and Milan at the new stadium we think seriously: iperattrezzato be exploited seven days a week from its modern lines like the two stadiums in Lisbon (the Da Luz el 'Alvalade) much appreciated by Moratti during' European football or as the multi-room comfort rossoblù Swiss opponents' s Inter in the Champions. Gallop 's idea of a new scale of football, waiting - it speaks to September - the expertise of Pirelli Real Estate on the present value of the SIRO and the new project by architects Boeri and boys on the fourth ring, the new commercial area with shops, museums, libraries and gardens that would arise on the 'area of the old sports hall. "Those are just considerations of Moratti - highlights Pierfrancesco Barletta, director and secretary general of Inter Chiamamilano - it is right to look around especially if the price fixed by the city remains so high. We have already guessed where to build: a Rozzano c 'is already an' area with the granting of Buildable for sports facilities. But even at Sixth and San Julian, there are free areas. We are not in step d 'farewell to the old San Siro, points out Barletta, it is certain that the words of Moratti give you a nice acceleration. "On the development of 'present stage we have invested so much - more - and soon the studio will tell us what Boers would cost the fourth ring. But it will be a substantial figure, in addition to 150 million sought by Palazzo Marino. E San Siro, to become usable seven days a week, can only be developed to 'content. Not to mention the suggestion of a brand new stadium, even as an idea. " The Da Luz in Lisbon, just conquered by Greece sample d 'Europe, l' example rebuilt from the ground instead of the old bowl from over 100 thousand seats, it now contains 65 thousand, has cost 110 million euros, includes meeting rooms, swimming pools restaurants, boxes, suites, and fitness center. Palazzo Turati Durini and so do not ask for better. "Certainly if you really believe Moratti - comments Cefaliello Alfonso, responsible for the Consorzio San Siro Milan - this changes a little 'things. Why is self-evident, and we have stressed several times that they should be building a new stadium. But maybe it's just a quip summer to invite the City to lower claims. What is certain is that when we study Pirelli RE in hand we can think of numbers and projects old and new. " In jest, Palazzo Marino does not believe. And not even going to be conditioned by proclamations. 'L' public administration is - replies' s Alderman Sport Aldo Brandirali - a public good is not undercut. it is true that the debate on the value of the stadium, but San Siro is a prestigious, the 'surrounding area ideal for its development. If they want to build a new stadium and have the 'area to do so, go ahead. It will not be another San Siro. " The tug of war for the moment, not reduce d 'intensity. A Palazzo Marino not fear even the 'depletion effect of a stadium without either derby or league or Champions. "Will not remain empty Meazza - insists Brandirali - might as well live like the Saint Denis of Paris, who has his team and is full of events all l 'year." - MAXIMUM PISA

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Inter leaves San Siro in 2014 will have the new stadium. Photos
It 'started the project for the new facility. Investment of 400 million.

Massimo Moratti is dreaming of a new stadium for his Inter. There is talk of 2014 as the final date for what Moratti wants to become the new home of the 'Inter. The new plant would be built from parts of Pero (North-East of Milan), the area dedicated to Expo and placed between two stations of the new metro line.

COMFORT ALL-L 'idea is to create every possible comfort for fans: a handheld screens to watch the replays of the charter goals of the game, custom seats for subscribed forums and heated. All this could become a reality because from time Moratti ponders leaving San Siro.
The project will be similar to that already developed by Juventus, on the model of compact and multi-purpose stadiums such as the Allianz Arena in Monaco or the Amsterdam Arena property dell'Ajax.

THE NAME - The name of the stadium? Dedication to Giacinto Facchetti symbol in Inter's history. The vision will apply after the final selection of the project promoted by 'Sports Investment Group' among the best teams in the world of architecture.

BEST VISUAL - The capacity, equal to 60-65 thousand posts I with optimal viewing angles from all sides due to the absence of the athletics track. Inside the headquarters of the interaction with the trophy room, the museum and the spaces reserved for the merchandising. Outside parking by 7-8 thousand people, it should be enough on match days.

COSTS - The 400 million, including financing costs: most of the investment will come to 80% by funds and banks, the rest by the shareholder. But with the opportunity to make money right from the presentation of the project with input from the sponsors, especially the one which gave its name to the stadium, and companies who book and box stores. It should result in revenue for some forty million.

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Moratti and the dream 'special': stage

The anticipation of Il Giornale: Inter ready to move from 2012 to Pero

The future of 'Inter could be something special and for once not talking coach. Yes, because the club via Durini working on a major project. Building a squadron unbeatable be entrusted to Jose Mourinho is the challenge at hand, to play the market. Build something solid to hold as loved all samples is the next step, screening 2012.

San Siro farewell Moratti has in mind a new stadium, to be dedicated to his father Angelo and named after a major sponsor, for obvious reasons of trade. Anticipation exclusively reported by The Newspaper might catch up to the emotion of aficionados Meazza, unwilling to abandon forever the scale of football.

But before we shed tears, look at the portfolio. The English model is there to see. The clubs of our house pulled out more money to tv (at least for now, given that the collective sale of rights from 2010 this will change) compared to the power of the Premier League, but on the commercial front, we have much to learn.

The three magic words are: stadium property. A great investment, but also a great deal (in the photo, the design of the new stadium for Liverpool, curated by the architectural firm HKS). And Moratti, that case is not out of oil, he smelled the business. If the Fair is going to Rho, l 'Inter could go to Pero. The great Milan 's Expo expands hinterland, transferring also the temple in the province of the ball.

Capacity from 60-65 thousand seats, just to the Full house every time. Seven or eight thousand parking spaces, so parking spaces to commuters on Monday morning, taking advantage of the new subway stops. Restaurants galore, from fast food to nouvelle cuisine, shops one after another and no running track, because people who go to the stadium after all the game wants to see. And yet 120-150 sky-box, 800 box-loggia and gallery with personalized services.

That's basically the details of the project, unveiled by Il Giornale. Cost of 400 million, 80% of which comes from banks and finance. Depreciation in ten years, substantial revenues, so as not to be outdone by anyone. Special, l 'Inter's future hopes to have the balance sheet assets.


June 1, 2008

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THE PRESIDENT THE PROJECT
A new stadium for the whole 'Inter's challenge Moratti
The new challenge. Moratti and the stage for the 'Inter

These are days of delicate decisions in the entire house. Before Christmas, the president Massimo Moratti dissolve 's last reserve on the decision to build a new stadium property of' Inter, releasing a project which has begun to think from the earliest days of his presidency. It's been thirteen, but building a stadium in Italy has a number of huge problems, not to mention that Moratti is particularly close to San Siro, where L 'Inter have won a lot. However, despite ongoing work to modernize, the stadium is putting on display all the flaws of a plant that has taken 82 years. It's time to change and Moratti had spoken of explicitly in mid June. Now we have to see if there are the final terms and financing for the construction of the new plant, will pass from the project to the executive. Building a new plant also means tying the Nerazzurri to a company value of real estate, to something solid, which gives economic power to the club no longer tied only to the operations of 'majority shareholder. It is also a way to respond to those, like the leaders Juventus, believes that 'Inter are a rich society, but without a project. L 'goal is to use the' system from 2012-2013, the reference model is the 'Allianz Arena in Munich Monaco where he plays for Bayern, a plant of not more than 60,000 seats, which really represents a turning point in panorama of Italian stadiums of the most ugly and outdated in the world. It remains under wraps the area where the new plant will be built, it is likely to point Area Rho-Pero, which is served by Highways and already earmarked to host the Olympic stadium if he ever became a reality Milan in 2000. A project that could change the face of the city (as demonstrated by the cases of Barcelona and Athens Olympics), crushed by a thousand obstacles. Those that Moratti is determined to overcome this time to give Inter Milan a stage to 'height of the times. Fabio Monti

Fabio Monti

 

[Victory]

The stadium that Moratti is alleged to be in love with:

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah, year figure differs from different sources. But thanks for digging those articles.

2014 is the most mentioned year, so I think we have to go with that. Hopefully Inter is announcing officially something already this summer.

 

[Black&Blue]

The stadium that Moratti is alleged to be in love with:

Well great stadium,but this doesn't mean that the possible new stadium will be something like this,according to latest news it will be something different and innovative than all these european modern stadiums,although the inspirations are Allianz Arena,Old Trafford and Amsterdam Arena.