Inter - Parma (4 Apr 15) [1-1]

[Nyall]

not getting into europa is the best thing that could happen to us.. if mancini gets his way over the summer and that's a big IF, Thorir can't go cheap out, but if Mancini is allowed full control, I can honestly see us having a Roma-last-year-season..

 

[Universe]

How? Signings are one thing but a coach should be able to make a team at least resemble something he's working towards but so far there's very little evidence of that. Our defense is just as, if not more calamitous than ever, our offense is impotent and can't score goals the same way Fitzy can't sink a ball in pool, and our midfield is full of infectious shitheads who do literally nothing for 90 minutes. Brozovic, Medel and Guarin are practically non-factors.

Meanwhile, our first sub (if our coach remembers to make any by the 81st minute) is Zdravko Kuzmanovic. Hernanes, one of, if not our only midfielder with proven pedigree plays second fiddle to this tool and most disgustingly, the clearly and so blatantly obvious talent of Kovacic, the player which any idiot can see should be invested heavily upon, is just sitting on the bench, probably regretting signing that contract extension, jerking off to distant memories of playing in the Champions League with Dinamo Zagreb, wondering how he hasn't yet reached the heights of mighty Dinamo with Inter.

So, one might wonder what the arrival of Toulalan and Lucas Leiva might add, besides Mancini playing a new 4312 with a different midfield trio of Brozovic, Toulalan, Medel, relegating Shaqiri to the bench and finally rewarding Guarin with that trequartista position he so deserves and thrives in.

We have nothing to play for. Apart from an ungodly miracle by Mancini selling his soul to the devil, Hillary Clinton herself, we will not make the champions league. At this point we won't even make the Europa League, and I suspect many might not even want us to. I do agree a season of Serie A football with no distractions could do us well in principle (pencilpal lel) and on paper, yes. But in reality, all I'm seeing is without a doubt, the worlds worst 'big team' humiliate itself incessantly.

Mancini should just start next seasons pre-season now and just pick the formation he wants, his ideal lineup (minus the expected new arrivals of course) and just fucking drill it into these sick pieces of shit. However, even if he did that (wishful thinking,) I'd be expecting very few changes, both in results and personnel.

 

[Wings]

^pretty much agreed with all of this. I think Mancini does deserve another season at least to fully implement his ideas, but I'm just not convinced those ideas will come off that well, based on what he's done so far and his history.

 

[bandiera]

^pretty much agreed with all of this. I think Mancini does deserve another season at least to fully implement his ideas, but I'm just not convinced those ideas will come off that well, based on what he's done so far and his history.

What do you mean by "his history"?

 

[Y&h]

Well even though it is beneficial in avoiding the FFP, the hypothesis of not playing in Europe was mentioned by Mancini but it was shot down by ET who wants it at any cost, let it be CL or EL.

At least that's what the media speculated days ago.

 

[morrisama]

i want us to be in EL next season. we'll be in financial mess if it doesnt happen. not to mention mancini will want to make major squad change for his taste and style of play. EL is our only chance to develop players and performance. we cant target scudetto as mancini frequently says recently. next season will be another damned transition. it sounds as a recurring shame but that is our reality.

now mancini must find a fucking way to get more points. genoa, torino, sampdoria, and lazio dont have better players than ours. and he should do it soon.

 

[A.l.i]

Parma will make history like all clubs have this season against us and win at the Meazza, just watch.

 

[Internaziolific]

at least try and win

 

[TGDella]

The problem for Mancini with playing the youngsters is that everyone will still bitch and moan when we lose regardless. He's probably concerned for morale, and probably doesn't want to give the impression of a thoroughly defeated team.

 

[Kakaroto]

The problem for Mancini with playing the youngsters is that everyone will still bitch and moan when we lose regardless. He's probably concerned for moral, and probably doesn't want to give the impression of a thoroughly defeated team.

And he's using the shield a totally defeated team to hide it.

 

[Wings]

What do you mean by "his history"?

What he's accomplished at his previous clubs...

 

[Bluenine]

Mancini should just start next seasons pre-season now and just pick the formation he wants, his ideal lineup (minus the expected new arrivals of course) and just fucking drill it into these sick pieces of shit. However, even if he did that (wishful thinking,) I'd be expecting very few changes, both in results and personnel.

I have a feeling he is already doing just that. Unfortunately Kova and Hernanes are not in his plans as CMs/DMs. He looks at them as AMs, and that spot belongs to Shaqiri at the mo.

I think everyone at Inter (the fans, the president, the management, etc) should just let Mancio work in peace now. If he wants to raise funds this summer by selling Kovacic, well, just let him fucking do it. In 1-2 years, we will be much better off if we allow our coach to express his ideas freely and without unrealistic pressure, than to force him to play with a squad that does not suit him.

I love Inter, and I care about Inter. Not Kovacic or Mancini or Icardi. Right now we need consistency and patience. The worst thing we can do right now is sack our coach or not trust him completely.

 

[Armes]

I think everyone at Inter (the fans, the president, the management, etc) should just let Mancio work in peace now. If he wants to raise funds this summer by selling Kovacic, well, just let him fucking do it. In 1-2 years, we will be much better off if we allow our coach to express his ideas freely and without unrealistic pressure, than to force him to play with a squad that does not suit him.

Man that's disappointing to read. I didn't realize there was pressure on this bitch to begin with; he's been working in all his peace and gayness - you can see that in his merry pre/post conferences. We shouldn't allow him to "raise funds" by selling our biggest talents. We should pressure the fuck out of him to get results and compete in tournaments we can raise funds naturally. If he can't make it without selling our youth to buy big names who are on the decline in years, he should gtfo. Why couldn't we let Mazzarri work in peace? Double standards much?

 

[Philipe]

Look on the positive side, it cant get any fucking worse.
We would be unlucky to get relegated I just cant see us losing 10 in a row.
I still don't see us hitting 50 points, but safe in A.

 

[Kakaroto]

If Mancini can't work with players like Kovacic he's not a fit for Inter.

Let's make a mistake because the coach wants too lol.

 

[bandiera]

What he's accomplished at his previous clubs...

Sure, but my point is how has what he has accomplished at his previous clubs imply that his ideas won't come off well enough so we won't achieve what we want to achieve (top 3) if we give him the players he needs/wants?

 

[ScottishInterista]

Look on the positive side, it cant get any fucking worse.
We would be unlucky to get relegated I just cant see us losing 10 in a row.
I still don't see us hitting 50 points, but safe in A.

 

[tanorini]

Man that's disappointing to read. I didn't realize there was pressure on this bitch to begin with; he's been working in all his peace and gayness - you can see that in his merry pre/post conferences. We shouldn't allow him to "raise funds" by selling our biggest talents. We should pressure the fuck out of him to get results and compete in tournaments we can raise funds naturally. If he can't make it without selling our youth to buy big names who are on the decline in years, he should gtfo. Why couldn't we let Mazzarri work in peace? Double standards much?

Because the club was broken with mazzarri he was acting like it was everyone's fault but him. What type of coach says that we were playing well then it started to rain. What the hell was that excuse? The fans wanted him out even moratti said it the players were not improving at all and mazzarri payed the price of his unpopularity . How do you build anything with someone who isn't wanted or supported by the club, the same guy who wanted to get us Vucinic for guarin thank God the fans reacted. He had chances and messed up. As for mancini he isn't that type of coach who can work with random players and average ones like the ones we have maybe he would have done alot better if he started the season. If you want a coach that transforms players and makes them super its not mancini that can do that job but he sure as hell will get u big players and make u compete if you give him time. Mancini is a big coach with experience he won almost everywhere he coached. You are right though that he shouldn't sell our youth to buy big names who are on decline and you do raise some good points.

http://www.espnfc.com/internazional...lter-mazzarri-sacked-because-he-was-unpopular


I still feel sorry for mazzarri because I dont think he is a bad coach regardless of his flaws , he just wasn't working with us. Remember Inter is not an easy team to manage.

 

[J..]

As for mancini he isn't that type of coach who can work with random players and average ones like the ones we have maybe he would have done alot better if he started the season. If you want a coach that transforms players and makes them super its not mancini that can do that job but he sure as hell will get u big players and make u compete if you give him time. Mancini is a big coach with experience he won almost everywhere he coached.

Mancini is average for these reasons:

1) The first two championships he won for us back in 05/06 and 06/07 was mainly to do with calciopoli. I'm sorry to say this but Rube in Serie B and Milan being shit had alot to do with it. Our team wasn't that shitty back then but our goals and the creativity on the field came mainly by Ibrahimovic. Without him we probably would have experienced the same boring shit as we do know which brings me to the next point.

2) He is not a great coach as we saw in Manchester City and in Galatasaray when it comes to the tactical aspects. It looks like way too often that our players don't have any plan to follow. He was succesful in Manchester City mainly because he bought in 15 world class players and hoped that someone would have the individual skill to make stuff happen. Just like back then with Ibrahimovic. As Universe pointed out is his tactical knowledge exposed quite often when he waits until the 70+ minute before he has the balls to make a tactical change. What the fuck. We are a big club. We are Inter. We should fucking not be scared of trying to win the games by making the necessary changes.

3) Take a look on how things tranformed when Mourinho came to the club. We could see a tactical plan on the field when we played. We gave a lot of trust in Sneijder. The same trust should be given to Kovacic. I'm not saying he is that good at all but trust means alot for a young player. What Mourinho did was keeping a lot of the players from Mancinis period but the true difference was the tactical aspect. Which brings me to our future - I only see two solutions for this. Either we get in an assistant to him who has a great tactical mind or we simply have to find someone else for the job. You wrote he can't be succesful in a club without a whole team of world class players. I agree with you but if a coach only can be succesful in this way then it means he is fucking shit and not worth of coaching any club in the world. Not even a top club.

 

[tanorini]

Regardless of what we say he won in different countries so he is a winner. Mancini might be terrible in Cl but still he will build a good team and that is what we want a good team with a solid foundation , something we lack I mean someone in FIF if I recall correctly mentioned that Juve bought a good midfield they then became really strong because they changed their foundation by getting pogba pirlo these strong players. I don't see any other option other than mancini for us right now, I am asking you who can we get? Mancini is someone who knows the club.
btw even before calciopoli we were improving and doing well with him, we won the coppa italia and lost twice and also got third place it wasnt bad at all although it was history.

I wouldn't judge mancini in galatasaray because he came towards the end yet he got the cup which wasnt bad and they were not bad in the league. In city they were boring but won and he got really good players which are really strong like toure silva.which leads me to an important point he is good for building the future because he can convince people to come to us.
The substitutions he makes are weird yes its his style he would always take too long to change a player.
Actually I think he will get some experienced players only not change the whole team because he knows we can't afford to spend like we did. Anyways lets hope to see our team competing and playing at the highest level.

Mourinho and that team were something else we would need a new thread to discuss them.