Inter - Juventus (18 Oct 15) [0-0]

[JJM]

No Ljajic because he has not disposed of a muscle strain to the left thigh...

Ok

 

[qs009]

finally mancini finds out the way to waste 38 million dollars for the sake of guarin. grande mancini. i've been expecting this

Mancini asked for Yaya Touré, Fassone bought Kondogbia, who was paid too much...

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

My queen Matsumae wants to say something to Rube fans:

 

[Devious]

An amazing sequence of events that took place in two minutes, but summed up more than 10 years.

For newbie fans, this was nothing, it was merely the icing on the cake, the cake is fucken huge and only Inter fans who watched Inter since the 90s know that.

I didnt hate them for nothing, Ive never seen a club so low and players who played for it and knew all the shit their management pulled and accepted it, hell even some of them denied it (par Zidane) cant recall a sportive organization that went so low in the game's history.

I wish we beat them tomorrow, fucken assholes.

 

[ForzaNerazzurro]

That clip makes me contemplate suicide.

 

[Pimpin]

i think ur overstating the effect of paying the refs

 

[bandiera]

Yes, because that Iuliano foul is why we didn't win the Scudetto. It's also why we didn't win the Scudetto for that entire decade. Therefore, Juventus is guilty and Inter is innocent. Surely Juventus didn't have ANY unfair calls for that entire season and wasn't the title that year decided by 3 points or less? Am I wrong or are you guys just speculating and filling in the blanks with a lot of BS?

I'd love to see your reaction if Collina went to Juve's coach to explain why he disallowed their offside goal against Inter.

Look, that was an unfair call and it very well could have been predetermined given everything we already know. It's very, very possible we could have won the title had that call been made but that's speculation. What we do know is that the bigger reason we lost the title was that we lost to Lecce, Piacenza, Bologna, and Brescia, and it also has nothing to do with why we didn't win anything before or after that. And Inter was involved in matchfixing. From the evidence we have it wasn't on the scale of Juventus, but we were still up there.. cherrypicking bad calls isn't going to make that all disappear. "Refereeing" wasn't why we weren't competitive before Juventus was relegated (in a farcical chain of events).

 

[Y&h]

bandiera..

Not now man, postpone that for 24 hours... it's war time. :datass:

 

[Armes]

You can clearly see bandiera is not turning his back on his family, on the contrary.

 

[Bluenine]

Yes, because that Iuliano foul is why we didn't win the Scudetto. It's also why we didn't win the Scudetto for that entire decade. Therefore, Juventus is guilty and Inter is innocent. Surely Juventus didn't have ANY unfair calls for that entire season and wasn't the title that year decided by 3 points or less? Am I wrong or are you guys just speculating and filling in the blanks with a lot of BS?

I'd love to see your reaction if Collina went to Juve's coach to explain why he disallowed their offside goal against Inter.

Look, that was an unfair call and it very well could have been predetermined given everything we already know. It's very, very possible we could have won the title had that call been made but that's speculation. What we do know is that the bigger reason we lost the title was that we lost to Lecce, Piacenza, Bologna, and Brescia, and it also has nothing to do with why we didn't win anything before or after that. And Inter was involved in matchfixing. From the evidence we have it wasn't on the scale of Juventus, but we were still up there.. cherrypicking bad calls isn't going to make that all disappear. "Refereeing" wasn't why we weren't competitive before Juventus was relegated (in a farcical chain of events).

We have had this discussion in detail before. Did you complete your research on this topic? You wouldn't call it "farcical" in this sense once you do, if anything Juventus and Moggi got away very, very lightly (as did many other clubs).

On the original post, those 2 minutes and many others are still very fresh in my memory... like Devious said, you had to live through them to know what it was like.

Nothing give me more joy than seeing Juve getting thrashed on the pitch. The joy is doubled if its Inter who are doing the thrashing.

 

[bandiera]

My posts usually have the worst timing but honestly you guys are manipulating what happened. I'm a sports fan and rivalry is always fun, but to hinge a case against Juventus and for Inter as evidence that we would've won the Scudetto and many other titles on the basis of one bad call is absurd.

We have had this discussion in detail before. Did you complete your research on this topic? You wouldn't call it "farcical" in this sense once you do, if anything Juventus and Moggi got away very, very lightly (as did many other clubs).

On the original post, those 2 minutes and many others are still very fresh in my memory... like Devious said, you had to live through them to know what it was like. I hope this never happens to Serie A again.

Bluenine, now you're taking what I said out of its context. Only a few sentences beforehand, I said "what we were doing was not on the scale of Juventus, and that the call could have been predetermined "given everything that we already know". The wiretaps suggest Juventus had a very, very large influence in the federation but the evidence was not concrete. Also, consider that's only from the information we have that was released by Moratti and co (which Tronchetti admitted in 2010) so it's wrong for anyone to claim they know exactly what happened. Anyways, a lot of it unearthed after the statute of limitations expired also suggests Inter and Milan amongst others were guilty of big crimes as well. We walked away from Calciopoli with Zlatan Ibrahimovic and a league that we could win for the next four years, Milan walked away with a points penalty but also a CL title.

I said that the chain of events that got Juventus relegated were farcical and I stand by that. There was no concrete evidence to suggest Juventus was guilty of an Article six violation. In fact, there was more concrete evidence against Inter where Facchetti directly tells the designator for a certain referee to gain a sporting advantage. Instead, these were all ignored, as well as the evidence against Galliani, who walked away with a four month ban from football, while Juventus was relegated in a tribunal that had no procedural integrity. To get them relegated, as you probably know, they made up a law to justify the punishment, claiming that a lot of smaller violations is equal to an Article six violation.

You're just repeating the same thing Devious said. "You had to be there to know what it was like". I didn't say it wouldn't have felt bad as an Inter fan so that has nothing to do with what I wrote, did you even read it?

 

[Shaun]

I look forward to a time when this stuff is less of a talking point. We've won a treble and then turned to crap since that time. Can't we move on now? The current Juve side and management has very little in common with the side of that era. Likewise we've largely moved on from the Moratti era.

If people can get over wars I find it sad that people can't get over a football scandal in a corrupt league, of a corrupt sport, in a corrupt world.

I also find it so weird with this outrage over past match fixing when we currently play in a league where somehow the only drug test players ever seem to fail is for cocaine. I'll start caring about past cheating when I think the present is even remotely "fair" or "honest".

 

[Y&h]

You can clearly see bandiera is not turning his back on his family, on the contrary.

Discussing Inter's history in the corrupted Italian football is normal, I even offered a similar critique to that of bandiera once, but just like with Icardi's comments about joining them, it's not the right time.

Sadly, the level of maturity you are dealing with treats such discussions of self-criticism as an admission of being "calciopoli directors" as evident with the open minded hospitality OC is getting at the Juve forum. It's the derby, where passion exceeds reason so I prefer we till the game's over and move this to the Juve thread in Flamers Paradise.

You don't see an interista at the stadium going to the Juve ultras and saying: "So guys.. I think Facchetti made a mistake."

He'd be hanged at the Meazza's roof.

 

[Howl]

That jube line up is pretty much their best team that they can field.. Evra-Marchisio-Pogba-Khedira-Cuadrado :megusta:

 

[Grujinho]

and Dybala-Morata in front of them....on the paper they have a much better and balanced team...but yet again, Marchisio and Khedira are just returning from injuries so they are still not at 100%...i hope Kondogbia has a great game and dominates the midfield, so Jovetić, Perišić and Icardi can take care of the things up front

 

[ronnyle]

and Dybala-Morata in front of them....on the paper they have a much better and balanced team...but yet again, Marchisio and Khedira are just returning from injuries so they are still not at 100%...i hope Kondogbia has a great game and dominates the midfield, so Jovetić, Perišić and Icardi can take care of the things up front

Now what we need is Melo breaking morata, khedira, and pogba legs and someone punch Chiellini monkey face then we win the game 1-0 at 90+2 mins. That would be a perfect derby. :datass:

 

[BasedGodPunk]

My favorite college football(American) team just lost in a heartbreaking and embarrassing way. Eager to see how Inter manages to out do it tomorrow.

 

[Kakaroto]

Seems like bandiera has been reading the gospel spread by Carlo Gargase about Calciopoli.

Juve got off easy. They should have been banned from organized football and burned to the ground for their years upon years of using their influence with the federation/Lega Calcio and ultimately the media. Everyone knew what Juve was doing, some people in the media even clebrated that stuff. They got off easy.

I've seen even Spanish commentators with no connection to Inter what so ever call that game one of the travesties in the history of the game.

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My favorite college football(American) team just lost in a heartbreaking and embarrassing way. Eager to see how Inter manages to out do it tomorrow.

SPARTYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

 

[Pimpin]

every european team hates the dirty fucking cheaters, even brian clough and many non inter related people hate them for being cheaters

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Their 3-1 defeat by Juventus was shrouded in controversy after it subsequently emerged that the West German referee had accepted 'gifts' from the Turin club before the tie

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[Quetzalcoatl]

Fuck the cheaters with the prisoner uniforms. Justice prevails in the end.