Inter - Frosinone (12 Nov 23) [2-0]

[Neroazzurr4]

As a former (lower league) goalkeeper, I can only add that such shots are the most difficult to defend. They may look like easy to catch or punch away, but they are far from it.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Lol what is this narrative of a cross?

The final thing Dimarco did before hitting the ball was him looking at the keeper, right after looking at Dumfries. Saw video/stillshots of this in Twitter but can't find them now. If it was cross attempt, Dimarco's reaction would have been different right after releasing the ball.

Awesome goal to witness on the stadium. Never gonna see as great goal live.

 

[ElDuccio]

As a former (lower league) goalkeeper, I can only add that such shots are the most difficult to defend. They may look like easy to catch or punch away, but they are far from it.

it's really difficult if you are not good positioned. To punch away is almost impossible if the ball is already behind you..

 

[qb4ever_2k]

It's normal that a professional footballer misplaces a pass/cross. It's not normal that they overhit a pass/cross that much, in fact, even a normal human doesn't put that much power to the ball by accident. Dimarco would have crossed to Zhang if he was aiming at Dumfries for a cross.

 

[Batman]

Lol why do you think that having a look at his surroundings means he's fixated on passing the ball that way.

Uhmmm.. because that’s what normal footballers do?

 

[Batman]

Only problem here is that Dimarco isn't hyped worldwide by the English media

If you guys remember after the treble, in the world cup, Maicon scored a goal that looked way more as an intended pass, but nobody questioned ever that.

I wish from the bottom of my heart it was intended as a pass, but I'll never admit that.

It was always a goal. Goal. Get over it.


It's like questioning a 35m goal in the right top corner, whether it was intended for the same exact corner.

Goal.

Everyone is happy for the goal. But the debate is interesting to be honest.

 

[Neroazzurr4]

it's really difficult if you are not good positioned. To punch away is almost impossible if the ball is already behind you..

Well yes, the correct position really counts a lot, but in this case the ball was closer to the middle of the field than the penalty area and the goalkeeper really could not have expected a shot, especially not accurate one. But still, running back to the goal and following the flight of the ball at the same time is not easy. I hated situations like this ...luckily it always worked out well for me in matches.

 

[Glass box]

He meant it 100%

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Everyone is happy for the goal. But the debate is interesting to be honest.

Ofc it is. I'm just overreacting to "prove" a point that I'm on the fence off myself
(Whether it was a shot or a pass)

My first impression was that he was trying to pass. The way he shoots the ball makes me believe that, and that's why I posted something along those lines here, minutes after the goal

But, honestly, I'm still not sure yet, and the only way is if there was a video of Dimarco, hm, let's say like 5 seconds before he receives the ball, is he aware of his position and the goalkeepers position, eye movements, etc...

My only problem (if I can call it a problem) is that Dimarco doesn't get half the credit he deserves.

 

[wera]

Only problem here is that Dimarco isn't hyped worldwide by the English media

But from all of our players from last season, Dimarco, Barella and Lautaro got the most praise (and strangely, less hype for Hakan and Darmian, both were great last season). I have heard commentators calling Dimarco the best left wingback in the world in a few games in 2023 already.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

I don't know why it's so complicated. It is normal to try a high ball in that situation knowing the goalkeeper was moving up quite a bit, perhaps to prevent a low cross. Many have attempted the same thing and got their luck sometimes.

It’s just such a ridiculous hit people don’t want to believe. I mean really sensational stuff.

I’ve seen the guy cross before and he doesn’t hit them like that even when he misses by a lot. In order to hit the ball that far and take that trajectory he had to go direct and get his whole foot into it. There’s the remotest of possibilities that he could have let the ball run too far and hit just hard enough that it could have beaten the keeper, but then it would have likely taken more of an outswinging trajectory. He had to open his body to hit that straight. The chance he hits a missle like that from a scuffed cross have to be like 1 in billion.

Just give the man his daps— he didn’t have many options, took an audacious shot, and it went in. Is it really that hard to believe a guy who scores wonder goals regularly scored another wonder goal? If it was Stankovic no one would be questioning it. It’s not like he needs to take credit for a miss hit when his best goals reel is already insane.

 

[CoolMan44]

It’s just such a ridiculous hit people don’t want to believe. I mean really sensational stuff.

I’ve seen the guy cross before and he doesn’t hit them like that even when he misses by a lot. In order to hit the ball that far and take that trajectory he had to go direct and get his whole foot into it. There’s the remotest of possibilities that he could have let the ball run too far and hit just hard enough that it could have beaten the keeper, but then it would have likely taken more of an outswinging trajectory. He had to open his body to hit that straight. The chance he hits a missle like that from a scuffed cross have to be like 1 in billion.

Just give the man his daps— he didn’t have many options, took an audacious shot, and it went in. Is it really that hard to believe a guy who scores wonder goals regularly scored another wonder goal? If it was Stankovic no one would be questioning it. It’s not like he needs to take credit for a miss hit when his best goals reel is already insane.

That's how I see it as well. If it was someone like Acerbi I think we would all agree he didn't mean it. But Dimarco is one of the few players in the league that I could see pulling off a shot like this. Interestingly enough, a lot of players that were capable of this type of shot played for Inter - Stankovic and Recoba come to mind.

 

[CafeCordoba]

As explained by few members already, the angle of his foot when hitting the ball reveals us it was not intended as a cross. You need to put some curve to it at that position and his foot was like in almost 100% horizontal position which doesn't give any curve to the ball in a way you want.

 

[Besnik]

As explained by few members already, the angle of his foot when hitting the ball reveals us it was not intended as a cross. You need to put some curve to it at that position and his foot was like in almost 100% horizontal position which doesn't give any curve to the ball in a way you want.

But the most important thing is the vision. He didn't even glance at the goal or goalkeeper before he executed the ball like some of guys here pretend. He did actually make a quick scan on his right (looking for teammates to deliver a long ball), but instead he executed a misplaced ball which took a crazy trajectory and that's it.

So, execution of the ball comes as secondary, while vision and the idea is primary, always. Just look at Recoba's goal vs Empoli which I posted a few posts earlier in this thread and see the difference what I mean. I really don't wanna sound like I don't appreciate Dimarco's exceptional goal, but we must put things into prespective and make a conclusion which is the realest.

 

[CafeCordoba]

So you claim it was a cross attempt?

Btw, he did briefly look at the goalie right after scanning the right flank.

 

[Besnik]

So you claim it was a cross attempt?

Btw, he did briefly look at the goalie right after scanning the right flank.

It looks like it. I have even put the replay clips on x0.25 speed which makes it easier to analyze the whole situation. Well, to me it doesn't look like he took a glance at the goalkeeper, at all. Not before he executed the ball. He did immediately after delivering the ball though, but not before from what I have seen in these clips.

 

[ElDuccio]

its almost week end again and we are still talking about if dimarcos goal was a cross or not... yeah its defnitly national break.

 

[#NotForMe]

It looks like it. I have even put the replay clips on x0.25 speed which makes it easier to analyze the whole situation. Well, to me it doesn't look like he took a glance at the goalkeeper, at all. Not before he executed the ball. He did immediately after delivering the ball though, but not before from what I have seen in these clips.

Literally looking at the goalie. LMFAO. It is like saying I don't hear the siren.

 

[CafeCordoba]

That's the pic/video I was talking about earlier.

 

[Besnik]

That pic is blurry and his head looks like he's looking at the goal from that pic, but I see it from another perspective through. His head movement is instinctively which doesn't prove anything because his biggest focus was scanning his right side and instantly making ball execution.

Just like when there is a sort of doubtful penalty call, and a screenshot of the vid won't tell the whole story because in the clip you could analyse body movement, ball movement, distance and intentions. I dunno if it makes sense what I am trying to explain, but this isn't mathematics. Take into consideration every detail as timing, positioning and so on.