Fredy Guarín

[Y&h]

Zenit is definitely not interested. everryone in their squad is for sale - the entire russian league is going broke and ive read rumours of zenits management planning to abandon the project b/c of a lack of return in investment

Is the 2018 World Cup in danger? Based on the Russian football situation..

 

[Ronin]

When WC18 is finished they'll convert the stadiums into missile launchers and army bases. Don't worry.

 

[Wobblz]

Zenit is definitely not interested. everryone in their squad is for sale - the entire russian league is going broke and ive read rumours of zenits management planning to abandon the project b/c of a lack of return in investment

Do you have any idea who owns Zenit? Gazprom, a company that makes about 40 Billion in net income every year...

Teams like Krasnodar or Terek, maybe...

 

[bandiera]

Do you have any idea who owns Zenit? Gazprom, a company that makes about 40 Billion in net income every year...

Teams like Krasnodar or Terek, maybe...

dude, that's completely irrelevant. why talk about an issue when you don't know its context?

Russian Premier League clubs will ask their players to accept pay cuts in response to a sharp fall in the value of the rouble.

All 16 top-flight clubs agreed to ask players to accept revised deals pegged to a fixed exchange rate that is significantly lower than the current rate, according to documents released by the league on Wednesday (Thursday NZ time).

That would effectively mean pay cuts of more than 20 per cent for most of the league's senior players.

The rouble has lost almost half of its value against the dollar and euro this year.

Russian football stars often have contracts that are denominated in euros or US dollars but paid in roubles under a floating exchange rate, meaning their wages have risen sharply in absolute terms as the rouble declines.

much more detailed article:http://rbth.com/sport/2014/12/19/wh...atens_to_shake_up_russian_football_42405.html

the wages are beyond unaffordable because of the new exchange rate between roubles and euros. for example, hulk's salary when he joined zenit was 7 million euros. that would have equaled 280 million roubles. the rouble has depreciated a lot over the past few months, so on December 15 for example that same amount (7 mill) would have equaled ~700 million roubles (or what was worth ~17 million in 2012)

edit; so to elaborate, if guarin signed for zenit on 2 million euro/year, they would have to pay an amount of roubles that was worth 6-7 million euro/year just two years ago.. thats why zenit rumours are bullshit.

 

[Ronin]

GUARIN IS TEMPTING TWO SPANISH. THERE IS INTEREST, REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHETHER...
Piero Ausilio is getting to grips with the grain of the market output, currently there are not many players in the Inter team to attract the attention of European clubs and this is a big problem for a team that wants to finance itself.

Fredy Guarin is one of the players on the market, yesterday we at FcInter1908.it we have anticipated the imminent arrival of his attorney in Italy (January 17th) and today's edition of the Corriere dello Sport showed a new interest from two Spanish team, against the former Porto midfielder: Sevilla and Valencia are on the trail of the Colombian footballer, currently nothing concrete, a simple request for information, and it remains to see if the player wants to move on.

via fcinter1908.it (google translated)

 

[Wobblz]

dude, that's completely irrelevant. why talk about an issue when you don't know its context?



much more detailed article:http://rbth.com/sport/2014/12/19/wh...atens_to_shake_up_russian_football_42405.html

the wages are beyond unaffordable because of the new exchange rate between roubles and euros. for example, hulk's salary when he joined zenit was 7 million euros. that would have equaled 280 million roubles. the rouble has depreciated a lot over the past few months, so on December 15 for example that same amount (7 mill) would have equaled ~700 million roubles (or what was worth ~17 million in 2012)

edit; so to elaborate, if guarin signed for zenit on 2 million euro/year, they would have to pay an amount of roubles that was worth 6-7 million euro/year just two years ago.. thats why zenit rumours are bullshit.

THAT is irrelevant - wages currency conversion being adjusted to a fixed exchange rate. Russian clubs still have shitloads of money, especially Zenit, and you're talking about them abandoning the project? You don't just 'abandon' such an investment, maybe cut spending but not closing the club and dismantling the personnel as easily as you're trying to make it. In addition to all that Gazprom provides 1/4th the gas Europe consumes and they're definitely not paid with roubles.

 

[bandiera]

THAT is irrelevant - wages currency conversion being adjusted to a fixed exchange rate. Russian clubs still have shitloads of money, especially Zenit, and you're talking about them abandoning the project? You don't just 'abandon' such an investment, maybe cut spending but not closing the club and dismantling the personnel as easily as you're trying to make it. In addition to all that Gazprom provides 1/4th the gas Europe consumes and they're definitely not paid with roubles.

the wages in russian football are paid in roubles but converted to euros using the exchange rate because many contracts there are made in euros not the local currency. youre seriously saying they're willing to pay what is worth 18 million euros every year to hulk? Or 8 million euros to Guarin? thats not a matter of commitment but rather not being idiots. the fact the owners are wealthy doesnt mean they have no boundaries.

as a result, zenits high earners are all apparently up for sale. you're saying things without an ounce of the required context.

 

[Wobblz]

the wages in russian football are paid in roubles but converted to euros using the exchange rate because many contracts there are made in euros not the local currency. youre seriously saying they're willing to pay what is worth 18 million euros every year to hulk? Or 8 million euros to Guarin? thats not a matter of commitment but rather not being idiots. the fact the owners are wealthy doesnt mean they have no boundaries.

as a result, zenits high earners are all apparently up for sale. you're saying things without an ounce of the required context.

Man, didnt I just quote you that they've signed already some contracts fixing the exchange rate? It's either you're not reading my posts or posting inaccurate info yourself.

If that wage conversion issue is settled legally what's the reason to sell players on the cheap and in bulk then?

Similar to people talking about Shakhtar selling all their player due to the Russian separatist guerillas, remind me who exactly got sold?

 

[Starmo4]

Just fuck offfffffffffffffff u fucking shit player shittttttttttttttttttt fuck shit

 

[JJM]

Just fuck offfffffffffffffff u fucking shit player shittttttttttttttttttt fuck shit

:troll:

 

[Puma]

Every time he gets the ball I cringe. Long range shots that dont go anywhere near goal, misplaced passes, bicycle kick clearances out of defence and a footballing brain that is so lacking he could be mistaken for some one with an intellectual disability. Surely we can do better than Guarin in midfield.

 

[Starmo4]

still same ,icardiscore , this is not guarin team .. im not gonna get foold again like you are ..

 

[Nyall]

guys, imagine if we didn't have Guarin and instead had a player with even a tenth of a brain..

 

[NeonBlade]

Terrible, atrocious game, but a great assist that cannot be denied.

 

[bandiera]

If that wage conversion issue is settled legally what's the reason to sell players on the cheap and in bulk then?

wat? zenit or any other football club can't change an elastic international exchange rate.. the contracts are made in euros, so hulk for example would have to accept less than a third of his current salary for the club to be paying a similar amount in Russian currency they were paying in the past. Why would any player agree to that so how can it be settled legally?

i mean shit, on december 15th, hulk's salary was technically worth 17 million euros...

 

[Goldenboyv88]

great pass for Icardi... He is a midfielder, not a winger, not a AM, not a striker. He is a midfielder and today in the second half he proved it!

 

[crzdcolombian]

Terrible, atrocious game, but a great assist that cannot be denied.

Fuck you Guarin .... If you hadn't played today we would have lost!!

Fuck you for your troll assist

 

[Starmo4]

yeah fuck you guarin for trying to fool us with one good move in milion years ..( i corava koka zrno nadje )

 

[electronicmaji]

Would Inter sell Guarin for £4-5m?

 

[Black Knight]

Yes