Financial scandal

[DJDamyard]

Now how do you prove who is right?? Players values change very quickly. For instance one day a player could be worth 100 million the next game he picks up a career ending injury and he is worth nothing.

I totally agree. Michael Owen story in brief!(Although he is coming back to his Liverpool self!!)

 

[ulivo]

Pierluigi Collina has ordered a change of referee for the Napoli-Livorno game after the Amaranto club website ‘announced’ the assignation early.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/sep25p.html

 

[Diavolo]

Of course they are trying to get Inter as campioni d'Italia and Milan as campioni d'Europa since someone is really jealos. :rollani:

Wake up. This is what Juve fans used to say. This is a place where it's almost impossible to prove the guilt and in big business these system holes are used always. It's all correct if you look at the papers but in real life there's a hole in the law.

 

[Gasparroni]

Now AS Roma and Lazio are caught with the bookholding. They both get a fine of €480.000,-........its nothing!!

When they lied about Inter they said they would take our scudetto and last year they said we could go to the Serie B, and now the 2 teams from Roma only get a fine of nothing.........how unfair.

 

[InterFan]

WTF? where? when? link?

 

[Gasparroni]

WTF? where? when? link?

Its on Gazzetta etc: http://www.gazzetta.it/ultimora/agrnews.jsp?id={6D90F1C4-5342-4705-08EF-5BC72DA32CFF}&cat=home&sezione=CALCIO

Its true, but i cant understand why they only get fined to pay a little bit money and from us they wanted to take our scudetto......bah:yuck:

 

[VLE]

Wasn't it just a suggestoin from a judge? I didn't think the actual amount was set (though the amount is minimal)

 

[forza_grecia]

Guys,if something's proven against our team,will there be any point deduction for the current championship?
Does anyone know what the law says?..

 

[Stefan]

Guys,if something's proven against our team,will there be any point deduction for the current championship?
Does anyone know what the law says?..

There will be no points deduction. This isn't sporting fraud hence no sporting penalties can be implemented hence why milan and inter have been facing charges in the normal courts and not the sporting courts for these accusations.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Best thread I could find and didn't wanted to make a new one.

It's again stressed how Inter made losses last year. And I remember Moratti talking earlier (early mercato or in the spring) how we are short of money because we want to reduce the expenditure. That Inter have a plan to balance the budget in three years time. It seems they're trying to make Inter a good company, not an every-year-making-losses company like it's been since forever or something. Moratti, Tronchetti-Provera and them aren't pumping their money to Inter anymore, at least not on the same extent like before.

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A//www.fcinternews.it/%3Faction%3Dread%26idnotizia%3D6417&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=ISO-8859-1

We've fucked up with the salary budget and now we're paying for it. Deloitte got our total revenues for season 2007/2008 to be around 170m€ (and about the same before that).

http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/cda/doc/content/UK_SBG_DeloitteFML2009.pdf

Our salary budget was estimated to around 120m€ by GdS in 2007/2008 season. It has gone down with these big-earners leaving the town this summer, but at the same time we've replaced them earlier with Quaresma, Mancini, Maicon's pay raise, Zlatan's pay raise (both compared to 07/08) and Milito+Motta now.

IMO this is very good, that they've recognized this problem and they are trying to do something about this shit. But it also means some tougher times, like it has looked in previous seasons in the market (no huge buys). Debts are huge and it needs to be reduced all the time (reduce? what's the word?).

 

[Boys San Interista]

This is serious shit.
We need to force some people out of the team, Mourinho should raise his voice more about downsizing.

Inter is not a playground for kids.
We need to sell Burdisso, Rivas, Mancini and Viera immidiately. If they want to keep our team efficacious as company, they should make decisions as a company and not be afraid these player hit out at Inter because of personal reasons.

It's not unusual to sell players who are surplus. Look at Manchester, Real Madrid and Chelsea. The inter board shouldn't be ashamed for their decisions regarding the players to tell them they need to search for another team, because they should know that the Fans are also behind these decisions. I mean everybody who see it brightly, not many these days i can tell you!

It's the fans who are decisive and not the person who is kicked away to another team. Not class your for sale, simple as that, clean the books scums.

A sale should be kept for second range players, if we want to be stable we must progress further in champions league and for that we need quality and not quantity, otherwise we can't keep a balance.

 

[Forza Nerazurri]

o shit............does this means we are in debt ?

 

[lonewolf19]

o shit............does this means we are in debt ?

yes and it is been a long time...

 

[Forza Nerazurri]

approx. how much debt are we in?

 

[CafeCordoba]

What I understood from that article I posted first, in 2008 we have 400m€ debts. Pretty huge and seemingly Moratti and Tronchetti Provera don't want to add it anymore by pumping their companies money to Inter.

 

[Stefan]

Inter's biggest issues are the wage bill and the income we generate on match day. While the english clubs and real and barca rake in €90 million plus on match day we make €28 million. That's a massive difference and that's why its vital for us to get a new stadium. Liverpool are also struggling to compete financially with the other epl clubs because of their match day revenues, They make € 50 million from it which is more than us but still way behind the others especially arsenal who make €120 million.

a New stadium is a must imho.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yep. But new stadium won't automatically give us +50m€ per matchday or so. Ticket prices at Italy are so low compared to England that we can't rise them just like that. Surely all the calculations and market analysis are done and they've looked them very close when they decide to build it.

I mean that it will most probably be more profitable to Inter to build a new stadium but the effect won't be as drastic as we would like it to be. Because people aren't used to spend much on a football match, and most of them possibly even don't have money to spend too much. At England the market is so different because there are long queues for season tickets (at least in London). I can't think the situation where a club in Italy would have queues for season tickets. There just isn't enough cash around among people. There isn't enough rich people who can spend on expensive tickets.

New stadium is still a must because Inter have to try SOMETHING. Marketing in China and Asia is a must-thing too, because of the large market there. And now we're doing it in States too but that isn't a market area where European football club would succeed significantly.

 

[Stefan]

Yep. But new stadium won't automatically give us +50m€ per matchday or so. Ticket prices at Italy are so low compared to England that we can't rise them just like that. Surely all the calculations and market analysis are done and they've looked them very close when they decide to build it.

I mean that it will most probably be more profitable to Inter to build a new stadium but the effect won't be as drastic as we would like it to be. Because people aren't used to spend much on a football match, and most of them possibly even don't have money to spend too much. At England the market is so different because there are long queues for season tickets (at least in London). I can't think the situation where a club in Italy would have queues for season tickets. There just isn't enough cash around among people. There isn't enough rich people who can spend on expensive tickets.

New stadium is still a must because Inter have to try SOMETHING. Marketing in China and Asia is a must-thing too, because of the large market there. And now we're doing it in States too but that isn't a market area where European football club would succeed significantly.

The big difference is corporate boxes that's where the epl makes most of their match day money. San Siro has very few compared to old trafford. Also with your own stadium you rent it out for concerts and the like in the off season,ect and make cash that way. At the moment when san siro gets rented out milan and inter receive nothing.

There's lots of other things you can add to a stadium which increases your revenue for instance chelsea has a restaurant build into their stadium.

All of these things you can do if you own and control the stadium.

I am not saying we will be able to get the same money as the epl clubs but we will be in a stronger financial position.

 

[rockball]

Having a new stadium won't automatically lead to an increase in ticket prices. The services would no doubt be better but the fans should have the capacity to shell out for them. Italy's economic situation is really bad compared to England and I don't know if that situation will change in the near future. If the general economic situation is not good, then the revenue by way of merchandise sales, ticket sales would be lower.

 

[A.l.i]

Atleast now Moratti is doing something right.