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Does anyone else believe Tevez is over rated ?

Yes. Doesn't mean he's not a good player but when people call him, one of the best in the World it's just ridiculous.

He has done nothing to earn that status. It's the same with most Agerntinians tbh. As soon as a new talent emerges he is dubbed "the new Maradona" and as long as he scores a nice goal every now and then, people will continue calling him that, without taking into consideration that he is really unconsistent in between.

Kind of like Messi. The most he has accomplished in one season is twelve goals, and maybe one or two goals in CL. But people, not experts, put him in the same bracket as Ronaldinho and Kaka, which is ridiculous.
 

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He is doing shit at ManU, Rooney looks god comparing him to Tevez, and i thought Rooney and Tevez were at the same level... but no.
 

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hehe thanks I see they just began posting but they got good videos.
 

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No... But does this issue needs new thread?
 

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poor Jol... Very unlucky todya, but what a cracker of a game.

Red's looking hot. See if they can keep it consistent though.
 

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doing shit at Man u?

Did you expect anything else? He had NO pre season. He had copa america, then back to england where he did nothing until it was eventually finalised. Of course his going to start slow, bad fitness and not use to Man U tactics (his position on the pitch)

Owned Argentina, Owned Brazil...came to england very ver yhard league to succeed in and did what SHEVA could NOT do. His amazing technique mixed in with his rugged fighting makes him very unique, saved West Hams ass single handedly. your an idiot if u think his proved nothing or that his over-rated
 

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Funny how you as a forward can single handedly save a club from relegation, and not even be the top scorer.

Anyways, if you think that he is one of the maybe top 40-70 footballers in the World like Fifa does then I don't think you overrate him. But if you think he's one of THE best players in the World then that is just ridiculous, because like I said, he has done nothing to get that accolade.

Having a couple of good seasons in South America, a decent World Cup, and scoring seven goals in West Ham United don't make you one of the best in the World. He is far from World class, maybe one day he will be but for now he's still just a talent.
 

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Funny how you as a forward can single handedly save a club from relegation, and not even be the top scorer.

Anyways, if you think that he is one of the maybe top 40-70 footballers in the World like Fifa does then I don't think you overrate him. But if you think he's one of THE best players in the World then that is just ridiculous, because like I said, he has done nothing to get that accolade.

Having a couple of good seasons in South America, a decent World Cup, and scoring seven goals in West Ham United don't make you one of the best in the World. He is far from World class, maybe one day he will be but for now he's still just a talent.

bcoz he didnt play when he first came? once he started playing i think he did the impossible and almost single handidly saved the.

he has won south american played of the year twice, scored like 20 goals in brazil where the fans loved him which is rare. came to west ham, once he got settled i think he killed it which is rare again, bcoz i cant think of any other south american who has done what he did in that space of 10 matches.

so who is world class? tevez is definetely world class, any player that can beat players, score a lot of goals and make a lot of assists is world class. he is playing as a CF at man united, wait someone to partner him

i like tevez he is great, he is enjoyable to watch

your comments are funny, imagine anyone playing down messi. barcelona fans want him to be the only one of the fab 4 not to be dropped with over 60% of marca's poll saying that, but some bloke from sweden knows more than catalan barcelona fans. btw experts have also acknowledged messi he has recieved many awards i think young player of the year even tho he was out for about half the year.
 

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I really feel sorry for Spurs as well..Liverpool doing well as u have indicated but my biggest suprise is that ManU are really suffering.They are working their socks off just to beat smaller teams by a one goal margin.

I hope ManCity do well today just as i am glad Newcastle did well yesterday..
 

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No... But does this issue needs new thread?

Thank you for your friendly and the positive welcome Pajo. Judging from the responses I'll leave that for you to comment on ?
 

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bcoz he didnt play when he first came? once he started playing i think he did the impossible and almost single handidly saved the.

No, that's not right. It took him a long time to settle, and I think it was somewhere in January where he started scoring and playing good. West Ham were Carried by Bobby Zamora, even after Tevez started scoring.

he has won south american played of the year twice, scored like 20 goals in brazil where the fans loved him which is rare. came to west ham, once he got settled i think he killed it which is rare again, bcoz i cant think of any other south american who has done what he did in that space of 10 matches.

Wow! A south American scored seven goals in 26 matches in the Premiership. Bravo! He must be the new Maradona.:howler:

so who is world class?

I believe the textbook definition is "someone who can CONSISTENTLY perform at the highest level". Tevez hasn't done that yet, neither has Messi even though he is a lot closer then Tevez.

tevez is definetely world class, any player that can beat players, score a lot of goals and make a lot of assists is world class. he is playing as a CF at man united, wait someone to partner him

:lol: Riiight. Then what about Cannavaro? Is he World class or has he ever been?

i like tevez he is great, he is enjoyable to watch

Yeah me too. But some people overrate him. Laymen mostly. Media are usually quite fair.

your comments are funny, imagine anyone playing down messi.

You have to play him down, since people refer to him as the new Maradona. If you have ever seen Maradona play you would know Messi is not even close. There's a resemblence but when it comes to skill, Messi will never be better then Diego. He can score as many handgoals as he wants trying to emulate his idol, but he will never be him. The scary thing is that all it takes is one very good season from him, where he scores maybe, 15-20 goals and the media circus will be all over it. And people like you will start believing he's best in the World.


barcelona fans want him to be the only one of the fab 4 not to be dropped with over 60% of marca's poll saying that, but some bloke from sweden knows more than catalan barcelona fans.

They want that because at the moment Messi is outshining everyone else. Not because they believe he's generally a better player then the other three. And besides the general opinion from the large mass interest me not, because the large mass consists to a large degree of simpletons and morons.

btw experts have also acknowledged messi he has recieved many awards i think young player of the year even tho he was out for about half the year

That's because he deserved it. Look, it's all about perspective. Some people put Messi in the same bracket as Ronaldinho and Kaka, and those people quite frankly don't know what they are talking about. They're just voicing their personal opinion of who has the most skill, not who actually performs at the highest level, with consistency throughout the season.

I would say Messi right now is top 10-20.
 

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I appreciate the effort you put into that post. I have to agree with most of what you have written.
 

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Does anyone else believe Tevez is over rated ?
Yes..Big potential, but not yet among the best players in the World..

Adam, agree with you on Tevez and guessing on your answers, you finally admitted Kaka is better than your boy CR, right?
 

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if u get cut that messi gets compared to maradona thats ur fault.

how is it messi's fault.

so anyone that gets compared to maradona is overrateD? so is samir nasri immediately overrated bcoz he's rated as teh new zidane? ballotelli overrated bcoz he's rated as our messi? nani overrated bcoz he's rated as the new ronaldo? ronaldo overrated bcoz he's the new figo?

i like ur little stats as well, 7 goals in 26 matches. considering most epl fans on xtratime thought he was the best player since january, ill take their word over urs....also than that of my eyes. the large mass of barcelona fans are morons but ur right and their wrong, i mean who are they, they are just barcelona fans with absolute no agendas over their players and watch barcelona play live and more than anyone else....some bloke in sweden is def more correct than them. lol

u need to understand footy fans are fickle, obviously they are goin to judge a player by one game, one month, one season....u cant stop that. tevez i would agree is not top 10 players in the world, was at the end of last season. messi has always been top 5 since his hattrick against real
 

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Yes..Big potential, but not yet among the best players in the World..

Adam, agree with you on Tevez and guessing on your answers, you finally admitted Kaka is better than your boy CR, right?

:D You saw your shot, huh mate? Not last season, I don't. Because I put more emphasis on league play rather then CL. But generally Kaka is a better player.
 

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Anyway, I won't see much of EPL matches this year either and would appreciate if someone tells me from time to time how are Man City and my favorite Croatian player Ćorluka doing..Thanks.. ;)
 

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if u get cut that messi gets compared to maradona thats ur fault.

how is it messi's fault.

so anyone that gets compared to maradona is overrateD? so is samir nasri immediately overrated bcoz he's rated as teh new zidane? ballotelli overrated bcoz he's rated as our messi? nani overrated bcoz he's rated as the new ronaldo? ronaldo overrated bcoz he's the new figo?

It's not, where did I say it was his fault? Basicly it's about perspective. I don't think he is overrated by FIFA or France football, but I do think fans overrate him.

I like ur little stats as well, 7 goals in 26 matches. considering most epl fans on xtratime thought he was the best player since january, ill take their word over urs...

That's your choice. And he was among the best players since January. Have I claimed otherwise?

.also than that of my eyes. the large mass of barcelona fans are morons but ur right and their wrong, i mean who are they, they are just barcelona fans with absolute no agendas over their players and watch barcelona play live and more than anyone else....some bloke in sweden is def more correct than them. lol

Not just Barcelona fans, but general masses are...well..dumb. And it's not a question of Barcelona fans vs some bloke in Sweden. Because neither you or I know how they rate Messi. The fact they want him to be in the "magic quartett" or whatever it's called has no relevans in this issue. It's a question of some bloke in Sweden vs some bloke in Australia.

u need to understand footy fans are fickle, obviously they are goin to judge a player by one game, one month, one season....u cant stop that.

Naturally, we all do that. But some let that one week or one month determine who is the best for the next couple of years.

tevez i would agree is not top 10 players in the world, was at the end of last season. messi has always been top 5 since his hattrick against real.

I don't agree and I've already given my reasons in the other posts.
 
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