English Premier League 2017/2018

[firmino]

poor de boer. he may not be the smartest in the pack but i think he's not very lucky either.

 

[monster09]

"There is bias there is delusion". your words.

it pisses me off, cause you clearly don't watch serie a, let alone Inter.

you should bother watching some serie A before venturing in comparisons which involve serie A players

Those are my words and I have already said I didn't call anyone deluded for saying Icardi is better. I have had few discussions with the other guy and it's obvious how someone overrates Serie A, never seen anyone overrating the league they support like the other guy.

You don't watch every min of ManUtd, Spurs or even Lyon so how can you say Icardi is better than all? I watch enough games, just last season I didn't watch regularly.

Btw you should watch PL games before talking about PL and cliches which was true in 90s.

 

[brehme1989]

Southampton-Watford was probably the worst thing I've sat down to watch since that Open Water movie 15 years ago and that was only yesterday and fresh memories. More than half the EPL games I'm forced to watch are crap. Unfortunately, they're a lot. No tactics, no game plan, mistakes everywhere, just run around usually and hope for the best. There are some teams that try to save themselves from that rather accurate stereotype but that's a small % of the league's full fixtures per year.

And I don't rate the Serie A as high as you think. I just think the EPL is piss poor and without the marketing not many would really bother to call it "the best". More than half the teams are useless and the top teams don't even care about the result some times, just to sell tv rights and tickets. There are like 8 teams that are actually pretty good or better and only 3-4 act like it. That's just how the EPL is.

You praise Harry Kane, a player who struggles to evade defenders who aren't even man marking him most of the time, has around 50% of his goals from PKs and set pieces, creates no goals for himself nor his teammates and remarkably has trouble to tap the ball in some times and has to control the ball within 1 meter off the goal occassionally (check his first two EPL goals from last year, ridiculous first touch). Both Kane and Lukaku NEED space, whilst Icardi CREATES space. Both Kane and Lukaku have 0 to 1.5 player defending them per situation whilst Icardi typically has 3 or 4. And he still has a great conversion rate. Put Kane and Lukaku at Inter during Icardi's era and they're probably gonna have 10 and 25 goals respectively. Over the years. And that's only because Lukaku can score in counter-attacks whilst Kane can't really do that unless he's all alone. And that won't be the case in Italy.

Today Inter had to defend against 10 men and Icardi was hidden between 5 defenders. How many times can Lukaku and Kane say that's happened in their career? I'm also sure as a typical EPL fanboy that's never kicked a ball, you will use "statistics" to "enhance" your "argument". Well, you might notice that Icardi's "chances" and "attempts" are bad when he barely manages to get a touch whereas Kane and Lukaku are more than free to make up their mind before they miss. And that's not coming from me, that's coming from everyone who's played in both leagues in any era and they're quite open about it (Tevez, Torres, Henry, Vialli, Zola, Di Canio, Crespo, Sanchez and so on). There's no space in Italy, there's no midfield and too much space in England. And there's no pressure in England either. That's what they've collectively said over the years.

I'm pretty sure you think that Belotti, Morata and Higuain are worse than Kane and Lukaku. Maybe Luis Suarez was an overrated biter as well.

 

[monster09]

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Icardi couldn't score against 10 man team, eee how great serie A is There is delusion and there is this guy.

 

[brehme1989]

I'm pretty sure they have English language schools in India, not sure if they're opening this time of year as they do in Europe, but I'd enrol in your case. Maybe you'll refresh your reading and comprehension skills.
For a brain addition you'll need surgery I'm afraid.

 

[monster09]

What a 12 year old insult.

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Guy who never watched Kane play thinks he is shit what a surprise.

 

[brehme1989]

What a 12 year old insult.

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Guy who never watched Kane play thinks he is shit what a surprise.

Yes, I'm 12. I'm the one who systematically insults someone because of their opinions about a freaking football league.

You say I never watched Kane play? Lol, I even watched him live 6 times you moron. I don't carry silly opinions that I'm not entitled to like you're used to. I only talk about things when I've enough knowledge about them. Try it and perhaps you will find friends at random teams' forums that you don't even care about. Oh wait...

 

[monster09]

Yes, I'm 12. I'm the one who systematically insults someone because of their opinions about a freaking football league.

You say I never watched Kane play? Lol, I even watched him live 6 times you moron. I don't carry silly opinions that I'm not entitled to like you're used to. I only talk about things when I've enough knowledge about them. Try it and perhaps you will find friends at random teams' forums that you don't even care about. Oh wait...

Random team? It's not random team you fucking cunt, I don't have to explain it to deluded cunts like you. I have lot of friends on FIF and I do because I usually avoid deluded cunts like you.

 

[Pani]

Serie A is far from great. However, it's a championship based on tactics and skill. Premier League is just a playground where people have fun. It is very easy for strikers to succeed in EPL.

 

[monster09]

Serie A is far from great. However, it's a championship based on tactics and skill. Premier League is just a playground where people have fun. It is very easy for strikers to succeed in EPL.

This is pure fantasy. Some old players have scored for fun in Serie A playing for fucking Udinese and some random lower clubs. You guys should check goals scored in Serie A and PL before making random conclusions. Like I said this isn't 90s anymore.

 

[Pani]

Replace "some" and "random" with facts and then we can discuss. Till then keep words like "fantasy" for yourself. If you can't respect an opposite opinion, put it in your signature, so nobody is interested in what you say.

 

[monster09]

Replace "some" and "random" with facts and then we can discuss. Till then keep words like "fantasy" for yourself. If you can't respect an opposite opinion, put it in your signature, so nobody is interested in what you say.

This is forum and your opinion will be challenged just like how mine would be. WHat do you expect? Everyone to nod their heads in agreement on how great Serie A is?

Who was the striker who was scoring shit loads for Udinese in his 30s? How old was Toni when he scored 20 and 22 league goals for Verona? Also did you check how many goals were scored by Serie A in total and EPL? Did you know Roma and Napoli were among highest scoring clubs in Europe?

 

[brehme1989]

Who was the striker who was scoring shit loads for Udinese in his 30s?

Darren Bent and Andy Carroll.

 

[monster09]

Clueless

 

[Pani]

Opinion challenge is not the same as lack of respect.

In my previous post, I wrote that Serie A is far from great.

I think that you are talking about Di Natale. So, yes, my opinion is that Di Natale and Toni could score a lot in EPL even now.

We simply disagree, end of story.

 

[brehme1989]

Clueless

Indeed you are. You preach football and can't even remember who Antonio Di Natale is and talk about him as if he's just another Darren Bent or Andy Carroll or Peter Crouch.

Here's a guideline: Disconnect from the internet, grab a ball, gather people from your neighbourhood, learn how to kick and pass the ball, go back home when it's dark, plug your tv, watch some football from every corner of the earth, repeat for 10 years, then educate yourself on how the game is played and then you may entertain us with your naivety. Until then, you're just a very bad troll.

 

[thatdude]

kane, lukaku, icari, morata are all a bit different. Very hard to say who's "better". Kane and Morata are most alike in terms of overall play. But it will depend on your system.

Kane's shooting is exceptional. Lukaku is fast and physical as fuck. Icardi is lethal as fuck. Morata is also quite a lethal finisher.

I personally think Morata is the best of the lot. But it's small margins. It's not like we're comparing with players like Immobile. They're all top, top strikers.

I would add Belotti to this group as well.

 

[Harpsabu]

Someone just kill this thread with fire

 

[ADRossi]

Anyone who wants to argue that the Spanish league isn't the best in the world needs to get their head checked.

I think the current rankings for quality of teams are: Spanish, English, Italian, German.

Germany's co-efficient are always dragged up by Bayern, but their traditionally stronger second-tier clubs all are struggling mightily right now.

 

[monster09]

Indeed you are. You preach football and can't even remember who Antonio Di Natale is and talk about him as if he's just another Darren Bent or Andy Carroll or Peter Crouch.

Here's a guideline: Disconnect from the internet, grab a ball, gather people from your neighbourhood, learn how to kick and pass the ball, go back home when it's dark, plug your tv, watch some football from every corner of the earth, repeat for 10 years, then educate yourself on how the game is played and then you may entertain us with your naivety. Until then, you're just a very bad troll.