Cagliari - Inter (Coppa Italia)

[Fabio]

I too watched the game and:

Cambiasso was man of the match again, Veron and Karagounis weren't at their best while Adriano and Martins put a lot of effort in!

And on a side not I am pretty sure that Marco Materazzi has ended all our hopes of getting Esposito for next season.

Fabio :frustrat:

 

[Ziyad]

I really thought this was the worst match Veron played...

I wonder why his blind haters havent come out to slaughter him,do i have to do everything around here???

 

[Pravesh]

I too watched the game and:


And on a side not I am pretty sure that Marco Materazzi has ended all our hopes of getting Esposito for next season.

Fabio :frustrat:

Why what happened ??

 

[Granit]

I too watched the game and:


And on a side not I am pretty sure that Marco Materazzi has ended all our hopes of getting Esposito for next season.

Fabio :frustrat:

Why what happened ??

He made him angry so many times...hehe Matrix is crazy, he can't make one clean tackle(dosent look right,but you know what i mean tackling)

 

[Zamat]

Who cares as long as he stops the guys by every means possible.

BTW, I don't think Esposito will decide his future based upon "bad memories" of past clashes with clubs.

 

[Hammoudi]

I really thought this was the worst match Veron played...

I wonder why his blind haters havent come out to slaughter him,do i have to do everything around here???

If that's me, then because I didn't see the game But I don't have to, he's been that way since he moved to England. I remember a game last year of Chelsea where he gave up the ball in the first minute and the opposing team scored.

I thought he was smart enough to work on that, but I guess he doesn't. He plays well once, and then bad once. I don't want players like this, Pizarro is our answer. Even in his bad day he doesn't make the disasterous things that Veron does.

 

[Frisko]

The "phuck Mancini whatever he does" brigade, which you seem to be ever closer to, would have a field day!

As for "Mancini lost it completely when it comes to defense" argument, I'll say just one thing: since Inter-Juve(13th game of the season) Inter is the team which conceeded least goals of all Serie A clubs.

*Stands up and applaudes Milos The Great*

Milos would you like a free Inter Dvd?

 

[Handoyo]

Well how about the "Praise Mancini whatever he does" brigade?

• - "It's OK if Mancini want to experience 4-3-3 just to allow Veron in the middle even if it's the most crucial match of the season, the 2nd leg of EuroDerby"
  - "It's alright if Mancini thinks Stankovic is the perfect player for the left wing even though Deki is nursing an injury and has been out of form for months."
  - "It's OK to use the gruesome twosome of Matrix-Miha in the middle of defense even though we have Gamarra."
  - "Mancini wants to freeze Emre, Coco & Davids out of the team? Non problemo!"

:wallbang:

I am neither pro-Mancini nor anti-Mancini. I want him to stay in the club for at least 3 years. But you have to get those Mancini cataracts off your eyes and see that he is not perfect! He is a human, he makes mistakes and he has to be criticized for those in order for him to learn from it!


Handyo

 

[snake]

Handoyo, Emre had his chances. You cant say he didnt, remember Sampdoria? he was at fault for 2 goals. He was shocking, he came off we scored 3.

2nd, Coco? Why would he play Coco. Favalli is miles ahead of him now, Coco is always getting injured, yes even this year, whereas Favalli can atleast string a few good games together.

And you cant say much abotu davids, its all about performing well in a few games to have the right to play. E.g. Ze maria, performed well in a game or 2 and continued till his injury. This was the same for Karagounis.

 

[catanha]

But that's the thing which annoys people Helal, Coco in the matches he has played has played no better and no worse than Favalli, perhaps if he his given more chances he will get back to the real Coco who would deliver killer crosses like the one against Valencia in the CL Qtr final 1st leg in 02/03...those were the days....IMO those days can still occur, but thats obviously if the bloke is given some game time.
He does get injured....but so do other players, look at Kaladze for example, he's had a horror run with injury, but Ancelotti still gives him chances to prove himself, which he has done.

 

[Jimmy]

Catanha, take this from someone who has been a Coco fan for the last five years or so. Coco CAN'T cross whatsoever, so for him to deliver killer crosses would be ridiculous. He has his expertise somewhere else. His crosses are sadly what has caused him to not being able to become a VERY good left back and among the best in the world.

The majority of his crosses is on the ground, and could be due to that he's naturally right footed.

Helal, you're completely forgetting that Emre was played as a right winger against Sampdoria, which should explain that he shouldn't defend in that area in the first place.

 

[Ari]

Well how about the "Praise Mancini whatever he does" brigade?

• - "It's OK if Mancini want to experience 4-3-3 just to allow Veron in the middle even if it's the most crucial match of the season, the 2nd leg of EuroDerby"
  - "It's alright if Mancini thinks Stankovic is the perfect player for the left wing even though Deki is nursing an injury and has been out of form for months."
  - "It's OK to use the gruesome twosome of Matrix-Miha in the middle of defense even though we have Gamarra."
  - "Mancini wants to freeze Emre, Coco & Davids out of the team? Non problemo!"

:wallbang:

I am neither pro-Mancini nor anti-Mancini. I want him to stay in the club for at least 3 years. But you have to get those Mancini cataracts off your eyes and see that he is not perfect! He is a human, he makes mistakes and he has to be criticized for those in order for him to learn from it!


Handyo

Agree perfectly with Han. But this forum's split to two groups who are against Mancini and supporting Mancini is ridicilous. I'm all for keeping guy but that some of you are actually saying he did everything right..

- Emre is played inconsitently. And when he's finally fielded to right midfielder I'm not very surprised that he doesn't do well. Helal it's ridicilous answering that he had his chance against Sampdoria when somebody is saying Emre hasn't had enough chances

- Coco in my opinion did quite well against Bologna. Not super playing, not bad either. Something you can expect when you are played first time since ages. When Mancini playes Marco Materazzi instead of COco as leftback, I have to disagree with him. That isn't objective choose for leftback.

The same goes for Davids. He actually played really well against Juce but Mancini kept ignoring him. Outrageous.

 

[Frisko]

People are strangely soft when judging Coco's performance. He played very little, still he looked quite wreckless at times, and he also made some mistakes that almost costed us a goal.

If Matrix had done any of that, you would have destroyed him. Coco does the same, all you say is that he's not playing with consistency. It's not like Matrix played 34 games in Serie A this year either, is it?

 

[Ari]

People are strangely soft when judging Coco's performance. He played very little, still he looked quite wreckless at times, and he also made some mistakes that almost costed us a goal.

If Matrix had done any of that, you would have destroyed him. Coco does the same, all you say is that he's not playing with consistency. It's not like Matrix played 34 games in Serie A this year either, is it?

Coco has 2 appearances in seria A this year. Materazzi has 23. I quess that's somekind of difference or am I wrong?

 

[Jimmy]

What Ari said.

When a player has played just a few games within a year makes a mistake, compared to one who has been a consistent starter for us the last three years, it is some kind of difference there.

Anyone who expects that Coco shouldn't make mistakes is naive. As naive as thinking that Carini will be secure on crosses, which is an acchilles heal for keepers who don't play regularly.

 

[Frisko]

Coco has 2 appearances in seria A this year. Materazzi has 23. I quess that's somekind of difference or am I wrong?

I'm not saying you should rate them at the same level, just that some of you guys are very soft on Coco.

You say about many players, they should have been given a chance, but Mancini didn't.

Gamarra, Burdisso, Coco, Carini, Recoba, Davids, Emre.

Then you say that players must be played consistently.

It's obvious that it's impossible to do this. But then people talk about "cutting players off the squad".

I guess that explains why coaches make so much money, they just can't be right, can they?

 

[Jimmy]

How can we be tough on Coco when he NEVER plays?! It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You usually back any Inter player, except those who Mancini doesn't play, and say we're soft. Soft towards a player who was really close of not being able to walk, and has returned to football and done some pretty decent performances when given the chance, but who is never being used two matches in a row.

Coco is barely considered for any match, without any real reason (fitness COULD be a reason, performancewise he hasn't been any worse than Favalli), and he deserves that kind of treatment?

 

[Frisko]

How can we be tough on Coco when he NEVER plays?! It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. You usually back any Inter player, except those who Mancini doesn't play, and say we're soft. Soft towards a player who was really close of not being able to walk, and has returned to football and done some pretty decent performances when given the chance, but who is never being used two matches in a row.

Coco is barely considered for any match, without any real reason (fitness COULD be a reason, performancewise he hasn't been any worse than Favalli), and he deserves that kind of treatment?

What about Carini Jimmy? He doesn't play more than Coco, but when he made the mistake against Cagliari, you weren't exactly "understanding" with him, were you?

 

[Jimmy]

Even I as a non-keeper wouldn't take the ball outside the penalty area for no reason whatsoever. I was however understanding when he came out wrong on that cross in the game, because those are signs of a keeper that doesn't play often. I understand those sorts of mistakes.

The mistake to take the ball outside the penalty area had nothing to do with Carini's lack of playing time. He even said it himself after the match, that he thought it was off-side.

So two more players and sequences that can't be compared.

 

[Frisko]

Yes, you're right.

Can you tell me another thing then? Even if Coco ever got back to his best form, in what way could he do better than Favalli? Only in terms of speed?