3-4-3, Moratti, Branca, and a Pazzomistic rant

[The Wall]

I think nobody should question Moratti's love and affection for the club. But it's not matter of love, it's matter of competence.

And if you take the money spent and the results in running the club in consideration I can not say Moratti has been particularly successful. In so many aspects.

All those years of having one or two superstar strikers and suronding them with mediocre players and coaches, all that money thrown away for fees and wages paying those mediocre players, all that bad scouting...it makes me sad.



The grass is always greener and I wish I'm completely wrong on this one, but I see our rebuilding as a complete failure so far. I stand by my view on our young guns. Average or below average players at best. No quality. No real quality to carry a team like Inter in single one of them. It suggest a complete scouting/ youth system failure.

You can improve both, it's not a rocket science really but I'm afraid people running the club don't see it. You can always get better scouts, better youth coaches but what this club is truely lacking is a long term project involving the IDENTITY. We should maybe have the separate thead on this one.

Just look at the clubs like Manchester and Barcelona. No, we CAN NOT compete with them in terms of money(although Inter should be doing much better in that aspect also) but what really sets us apart from them is the IDENTITY.

You always know Manchester is going to play pacey wingers, direct passing and blitz speed counter attacking football. No matter who is out there they always do it this way, they pick the players to play that way, they nurture them and give them a chance. How many people were high on Welbeck, the twins, Smalling, Cleverley and so on before the season? And here they are, performing on the highest level. United is not afraid to take on anybody with those players. Just imagine Inter starting Obi, Alvarez, Coutinho and those guys against any team in the Serie A or CL.....exactly.

Same with Barcelona. You can label them divers, cheaters and so on but they have their philosophy FOR years now and they don't back down from it. It's in their statute ffs! You know they are going to play their tiki taka pass around until everyone is bored to death football with 7,8 midgets running circles everytime they step on the pitch. And those midgets are worth more than anyone can pay. The problem is that they have 7 or 8 new midgets lined up to take over in the near future.



Inter is far, far away from having something like this. As I sad before, Moratti is maybe the greatest fan EVER but he is not the greatest president ever. Just imagine him having more patience, spending all that money implementing a long term IDENTITY starting within the club's youth set-up and having a better idea how to make a club healthier financial wise.

It needs to be done to be successful long term but I have my doubts if we are going to see that happen with the current personnel running the club.

 

[Suneet]

So everyone here expects MM to buy young players as a project one summer and be a superhit straight away......

Our young players are good, they have been here 2 months and playing in the wrong formation. Give them a month or a few matches before you start shooting them down. Our new project has just started, lets give it some time to grow. Off course it doesn't mean we should lose matches and take it happily, no. But let our new team gel together. This doesn't happen in a week. Dont talk about identity and shit 2 months into the project, please.

And then dont talk about long term shit when you want to sack the coach after 2 games. This is what MM used to do wrong before. Let the team mentally pump themselves up.

Also considering the last 2 games, you can say we've lost them due to individual errors. Palermo is more Gasp and even JC on the last goal and Trab is more Lucio, Milito, Cuchu, Pazzo errors. These players dont make errors that often, they are humans, so they still make a few. My point is they are still a little bit rusty, lets judge the team after it has played in its correct formation for a few games. Lets not blame MM for caring about Inter's future. There is no other way for us to raise money to survive.

 

[The Wall]

So everyone here expects MM to buy young players as a project one summer and be a superhit straight away......

Don't know if this was directed at me and if it was....wow. Really having a hard time understanding how did you manage to construct THAT after reading my post.

Our young players are good, they have been here 2 months and playing in the wrong formation.

Debatable, and not true.

Our new project has just started, lets give it some time to grow. Off course it doesn't mean we should lose matches and take it happily, no. But let our new team gel together. This doesn't happen in a week. Dont talk about identity and shit 2 months into the project, please.

Well, that kind of is the problem here. Why has is just started? Why did Moratti fail to implement the identitiy in all those years? What makes you think he is going to make it right now?

And if you just chose to ignore all that and just focus on THIS team and the future of THIS team I can not really see they are going to be able to establish something what needs to be a long term identity of the club. It doesn't work like that. I don't see what exactly is new and worth of trust. Some new faces and a new coach who isn't exactly Alex Ferguson and on top of that he was not granted autonomy.

And then dont talk about long term shit when you want to sack the coach after 2 games. This is what MM used to do wrong before. Let the team mentally pump themselves up.

It's bound to happen very soon anyways because of the unrealistic expectations. The team is not good enough and Gasperini is not good enough to make a not good enough team play better than expected. So, Gasperini is pretty mch already on his way out.

Me wanting a new coach has nothing to do with Gasperini but seeing the fact that only a wc coach can make us a little more competitive and make us suffer less. I would not mind Gasperini long term at all if we had a plan, if we had a qulity young core who is going to carry this team in the future, if we had some quality young guns coming from the youth set up,if we had the IDENTITY in one word. I would not mind 3 or 4 years of not winning anything with Gasperini if I saw the club is heading in the right direction.

So, the obvious choice for me is to pick a best coach available and try to squeeze some trophies.

It's a matter of a personal opinion and I respect you for having one of your own but I don't see things being positive atm and it has a little to do with the CL and Palermo defeats. I have been feeling like this since summer.

 

[Suneet]

Not directed at you but I clearly said everyone, I apologise if you felt that way.

Our young players have been with Inter first team for more than 2 months? What did I miss? Our young players arent world class talents but they arent finished players as you believe. I understand your pessimism but in all reality you are an Interista and are hurting like I am too and I guess thats where its coming from.

Also it was impossible to start our policy and getting rid of high wage earners earlier simply because we wanted to win and those trophies woudnt be possible. I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to say. Also it is the correct decision to give no autonomy to the new coach considering our last few coaches big name coaches failed with their first transfer market, didnt they?

Also you are going to judge the long term future of our club based on preseason where we were training for the wrong formation and 2 games which were decided by a lot of individual errors? Come on, be negative if you want to be of the fact that JC is making too many mistakes, Milito is missing sitters, Cuchu and JZ only pass backwards, Forlan was FUCKING cup tied and we registered him, but for the love of god it is not at all reasonable to hate on players, coaches and management 2 games in the season.

MM has a plan, Inter has a plan( I agree Forlan's signing goes against it, but we didnt really have any other options) but we have changed the strategy. All the negativity around the squad doesnt help it. What Inter needs from Interisti is a little belief. I'm sure we'll turn this around, if with Gasp or without him, I dont know. That is for us to find out. Have a little patience.

 

[The Wall]

Not directed at you but I clearly said everyone, I apologise if you felt that way.

All good, all good.:thumbsup:

Our young players have been with Inter first team for more than 2 months? What did I miss? Our young players arent world class talents but they arent finished players as you believe. I understand your pessimism but in all reality you are an Interista and are hurting like I am too and I guess thats where its coming from.

I was refering to them being with the club for more than 2 months which goes by my whole argument about identity. When you implement such an identity you don't grow your players just by including them in the first team duties. Again with Barca but their Barcelona B concept seems to do wonders for those kids.

And you are spot on in that last sentence.

Also it was impossible to start our policy and getting rid of high wage earners earlier simply because we wanted to win and those trophies woudnt be possible. I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to say. Also it is the correct decision to give no autonomy to the new coach considering our last few coaches big name coaches failed with their first transfer market, didnt they?

Also you are going to judge the long term future of our club based on preseason where we were training for the wrong formation and 2 games which were decided by a lot of individual errors? Come on, be negative if you want to be of the fact that JC is making too many mistakes, Milito is missing sitters, Cuchu and JZ only pass backwards, Forlan was FUCKING cup tied and we registered him, but for the love of god it is not at all reasonable to hate on players, coaches and management 2 games in the season.

MM has a plan, Inter has a plan( I agree Forlan's signing goes against it, but we didnt really have any other options) but we have changed the strategy. All the negativity around the squad doesnt help it. What Inter needs from Interisti is a little belief. I'm sure we'll turn this around, if with Gasp or without him, I dont know. That is for us to find out. Have a little patience.

I should maybe just direct you to N4l's thread because I feel like I'm starting to repeat myself and he said pretty much everything but just to add something.....I'm not so unhappy about our team atm, having Gasperini as our coach doesn't make me angry or upset all that much. It's a pleasure to follow this team in some ways. Yes, there is going to be a lot of suffering but I don't believe it's going to get any tougher than the last season.

But what sometimes makes me really sad is the feeling the club is not really heading in the right direction. I just cano not spin things to make Moratti and the rest look like they are doing a good job in my eyes. If I try look into the facts, revise the past moves and stuff it doesn't get any better.

I'm all for having patience but there is bit much bumps om the road and mistakes to overlook them and not question whether those guys know what are they doing.

 

[Suneet]

They did well the last time when creating the cycle of winning, they will do well. Its not spin. Its just that we are doing it in a different way than us Interisti are used to. Before we just bought the best players for whatever price we could afford and gave him the biggest contract... that is what led to this decline financially.

 

[The Wall]

They did well the last time when creating the cycle of winning, they will do well. Its not spin. Its just that we are doing it in a different way than us Interisti are used to. Before we just bought the best players for whatever price we could afford and gave him the biggest contract... that is what led to this decline financially.

And it was an amazing run. But there were some factors(like Calcipoli, our shameful CL shortcomings, shamful refereeing in our favor in some parts of the 2008/2009. season, treble season was magnificent but everything in the world fell in the right place for us, even the fucking Iceland Vulcano started to fart ashes at the right moment) that make our cycle less impressive when you realistically compare it to some other teams.

And I'm not saying this to upset anyone but the time has come to deal with some facts and not just repeat ''we were fucking treble winners ffs''....

People running the shit made amazing moves during those glorious times but let's not make it to be all perfect. There were horrendous mistakes in running the club before, during and after our cycle of winning.