Francesco Acerbi
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10 years of FIFThere's an interesting example from the premiership - Clattenburg was accused of racism by John Obi Mikel - IIRC it was alleged he said monkey - but it was never really public, I always took it in the sense of 'stop monkeying around' (common english expression) rather than 'you're a monkey' (potentially interpretable as racist).
Saying 'I'll beat you black and blue' has nothing to do with racism, if that's indeed what was said. It's a turn of phrase.
We'll see what comes out.
Saying 'I'll beat you black and blue' has nothing to do with racism, if that's indeed what was said. It's a turn of phrase.
We'll see what comes out.
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10 years of FIFThe real news is that
Pasquale Guarro of Calciomercato.com details how Acerbi and his representatives recently had a meeting with Inter’s directors at their Viale della Liberazione headquarters, where he quietly signed a new two-year contract with an option for a third, just days before the racism row kicked off.
Pasquale Guarro of Calciomercato.com details how Acerbi and his representatives recently had a meeting with Inter’s directors at their Viale della Liberazione headquarters, where he quietly signed a new two-year contract with an option for a third, just days before the racism row kicked off.
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Most Improved MemberThis is idiotic really. I appreciate Acerbi, but it's obvious that he is worse compare to the last season, and who knows how bad he will be after one year more. One season extension would have been the best solution.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFIf this was a criminal trial sure. But this is a sporting trial. Reasonable doudt doesn't apply. The the judge only needs to believe that Juan Jesus's version is the more likely version.
This is a hornets nest for the judge.
You are hopefully aware that you can say something racist with the word nero, country specific black or without N word in it right? The sentence JJ said Acerbi said is those racist regardless of the N word.
It’s the sentence that matters in the end, as this isn’t a Germanic or Slavic speaking country.
I had a dish, I seen signs, I seen text, I was told sentences with the word N in it, in the Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries I have visited just saying.
Also this isn’t a criminal court case, that would require additional evidence to be put forward or another witness. This is purely a sporting one where they previously found players guilty on thin ground. We are talking suspension here not really a prison sentence.
Also Inter is a private company, it will those be entirely up to them to decide what additional punishment if any should be handed over. Something like branding damage etc. might come into play, all depends on contract that Acerbi signed and what it says regarding the matter of annulment.
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This whole shitfest reminds me of a similar incident in my country. Some random black player swore at an opposing player. Ref then asked who exactly swore and the answer was "negru ala" which literally means "the black guy". In latin based languages the word for black is similar to negro/n***** or whatever else is perceived as a racial slur.
I think Acerbi in the heat of the moment just threw the "nero" in there which was really fucking stupid when he could have just used "cazzo" or "stronzo" and this whole ordeal would not exist.
I think Acerbi in the heat of the moment just threw the "nero" in there which was really fucking stupid when he could have just used "cazzo" or "stronzo" and this whole ordeal would not exist.
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I disagree, no country should change their vocabulary based on what is perceived as racist. It was not intended as a racist remark and in cases like this context > a word that resembles something which triggers politically correct fanatics.
I dont hear anyone being triggered when a group of black people refer to a white guy as "white" one. One is white and one is black. If a black guy swore at me and someone asked me to identify him I would simply say the black guy because it is the easiest way of identifying the individual.
That being said in Acerbi case if he really said what JJ claims then yes even if he used "nero" and not an obvious racial slur it still is a racist remark in that context.
Depends way too much on the country, in many countries you can basically only say dark skin complexion, sentences that include pigmentation and melanin etc. However in some it’s okay saying brown, but black is getting very touchy most places, so generally just best avoided all together.
African American is entirely an American thing we don’t really have something similar here. other countries it’s “of African origin”, “ethnicity of African origin”, “African ethnicity” or “african roots” whether or not one of those form is acceptable to use or not, unfortunately really depends on the individual country that we speak off, it’s a bit of a minefield.
Also it’s always been a bit stupid saying white, black or yellow ever seen a person with said skin colour because I haven’t. But granted it’s allot easier than trying to navigate long none offensive sentence constructions that change and that might be none offensive today but offensive tomorrow
Vocabulary has always been changing as times go by and always been tightly related to the society of its time, the values, the ethics, social ethics and norm. Words that meant something a 100 years ago get new meaning, it’s just the nature of things.
N word was also not meant or constructed to be offensive, but the coarse of history changed that, especially in the Germanic languages.
It’s just the nature of language, language are ever evolving, words will overtime change their meaning, new words will be invented, old will vanish or changed Into new meaning. Use a word enough in a negative way… and it will alter its meaning drastically over time. You cannot prevent this, so it’s not about being “soft” but rather just the nature of languages.
Just look at other words like political correct, woke etc. there countless of examples of words that loose and change their meaning broaden get additional meanings those it depends on the context that it’s used.
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No I’m as white as new fallen snow, but I have known and know many who are… So had loads of conversations with them regarding this in the different countries I lived in.
For me it’s always been about being respectful towards other with a different culture, background and appearance than me. I just don’t see why I should insist on using words that other perceive as hurtful… Just use other words they are fine with, we all need to get along with each other, especially if you want peace. This means compromise needs to be made, understanding what each of us find acceptable and not acceptable in our communication is part of that. People from there are fantastic people, why on earth would I want to use a word they find hurtful ?
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Are you talking about in Portuguese? There's two words for "black" in that language, "preto" and "negro". My rudimentary understanding of Portuguese is that "preto" tends to be used more to describe items being black, and that it's the more likely word to be used if someone's being racist, but just the other day someone told me that either word can hold racist connotations depending on how they're used (but that "preto" is more commonly used in a racist context).