Kristjan Asllani

Alex de Large said:

We are not going to sign Kroos or Rodri to be Hakan backup's, so what is the problem of having someone who can get better rather than a finished player

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It's mainly down to people expecting too much from a young regista still getting adjusted to the team and the posituon while playing mainly when the squad is rotated but also to the weird Mkhitaryan cult that does not allow people to compliment another player than the Armenian.

Gaindé said:

It's mainly down to people expecting too much from a young regista still getting adjusted to the team and the posituon while playing mainly when the squad is rotated but also to the weird Mkhitaryan cult that does not allow people to compliment another player than the Armenian.

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Well, weird cult against stupid religion that bashes Miki on this forum every fukken game. I'll go to the cult definitely.

bubba zanetti said:

Lol whats this crap about who has more responsibilities. If you deliver wrong ball as defender(Like Pavard against Atalanta) you are also fucked! And Asslani is also playing with class players like Barella and Mhiki. You should more jerk on Mhiki than on fucking Asslani lol

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It's not required by the defenders to do vertical passes. They just need to keep to safety passing lines. This is the reason why players like Asllani, Barella, Hakan and Mkhitaryan drop deep to take the ball, and to try to launch a direct dengerous ball forward. Otherwise we can put someone like Medel there, and enjoy to his 90% passing stats.

varmin said:

It's not required by the defenders to do vertical passes. They just need to keep to safety passing lines. This is the reason why players like Asllani, Barella, Hakan and Mkhitaryan drop deep to take the ball, and to try to launch a direct dengerous ball forward. Otherwise we can put someone like Medel there, and enjoy to his 90% passing stats.

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Well I saw Bisseck doing vertical passes and he was great!

Gal said:

If you fuck up a pass in that role you create a potential large chance for the opposition, as it’s a ball loose on one of the most dangerous places on the pitch. He plays safe likely because he is told to. You need to slowly build up your ability and grow confidence in the role it isn’t happening over night, it’s probably one of the most difficult positions to play on a team.

I don’t think he is afraid, it simply not what I’m seeing, he is very likely told by Inzaghi to play it safe not taking unnecessary risk, I think Inzaghi is slowly trying to build him up not forcing anything.

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I did not say, he will try some "risky" play, when he is only player in front of GK. That is diference between good player and excellent player. Try to do something with ball, that we can remmember you play a game. I can have 100% pass acuracy. That does not mean I am good player.

Mikele said:

I did not say, he will try some "risky" play, when he is only player in front of GK. That is diference between good player and excellent player. Try to do something with ball, that we can remmember you play a game. I can have 100% pass acuracy. That does not mean I am good player.

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You don’t get it if you loose a ball on the regista position you loose it on one of the most dangerous areas on the entire pitch you can get counter in full speed straight towards goal without or too little time to undo the harm. That is just one reason you need an experienced, intelligent, great passer with high accuracy and consistency who is excellent at reading the game and react and also handle pressure all that while receiving and distributing balls under sometimes hefty pressure and that without mentioning the often defensive duties that typically goes with the job. That is why it’s probably one of the most demanding if not the most demanding positions a player can play, it takes years to develop the skillset required and few ever manage to do so to a high enough degree to actually be used in a top club. I don’t think many are aware just how difficult that position is, you need an incredibly high level of football intelligence and top level of reading the game and being able to position yourself correctly. The position of Bisseck is easy far easier to play.

Asllani isn't really a regista though.

Hakan barely managed to become one in the last couple of months. End of last season he was just a guy who was playing from deep.


Regista has to be the first or at least be readily available player to receive the ball in your own half, at any given part. Has to read the game, know where his teammates are, know where they should go or will go and knows where the opposition's pressing is. He has to run his ass off without the ball and be where his teammates need him.

Asllani does not possess these traits. And that's more risky than talking about where he passes the ball. That's the last part of the job.

It's an attitude you can learn but Inter first team is not where you do that if your starting level is so far off.

Most of the things is training, if you have the intelligence, ability to read the game and passing skills you can learn the role the problem is that it takes loads of training and playing time, Inter isn’t perhaps the best place to learn it, unfortunately not many play with one so it’s just generally not easy shipping a player on to another team to pick that up. So Inzaghi has to learn him as much as he can and do the job to a satisfactory degree. I agree currently Asllani has not remotely developed the package required but it’s impossible to tell whether he can develop it to a high enough degree he is after all still young

Gal said:

Most of the things is training, if you have the intelligence, ability to read the game and passing skills you can learn the role the problem is that it takes loads of training and playing time, Inter isn’t perhaps the best place to learn it, unfortunately not many play with one so it’s just generally not easy shipping a player on to another team to pick that up. So Inzaghi has to learn him as much as he can and do the job to a satisfactory degree. I agree currently Asllani has not remotely developed the package required but it’s impossible to tell whether he can develop it to a high enough degree he is after all still young

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The debate is not whether or not he will eventually become a great player at this role or another.

The debate is whether he merits a roster spot and is a worthy replacement of Hakan. That's not leaning his way, but he's lucky that we showed up in the games that Hakan missed and they were relatively easy. Only Atalanta was tough on paper. In the CL where he played


He's more of a mezzala and he wants the ball more often, wants to run with it. He's still a kid of course and gets 'excited', but when it shows on the pitch it leads to a negative impact. If he's to stay at Inter he needs to be tamed and learn what needs to be done. I haven't seen that from him based on performance, but I hope the coaching staff did if the decision is to keep him as the Hakan replacement. We cannot know when we'll need replace a starter for 6-8 weeks or so, like Brozovic was out last season. Hakan stepped up, I don't see anything on Asllani based on his sample that he's up to this task. If we need him for Atletico away or a top 5 European team, or in a derby or big match in Italy, I wouldn't be confident going in. It's a neuralgic position as many have highlighted and unfortunately he's not playing it well. He's not embarrassing himself or making costly mistakes, but he's not helping either and someone will pick up on that and punish us.

The time to shine was vs Sociedad and Benfica away, but granted most of the team was rotated. He was subpar in both and confused the fuck out of our defense which led to goals conceded and key chances conceded.
Had a good game iirc vs Fiorentina away and was decent vs Lecce, which is a good sign, but cannot praise him for the Atalanta game. It's a good time to nurture him because the team is on a good moon, but rely on him in case Hakan is out? No chance. Barella has to play there even if that means we're losing an important engine in the midfield.

But I worry because I saw the same attitude that made those costly mistakes, but what changed is that his teammates choose to ignore him more often than not as if they don't trust him. And they'd know better.

Gaindé said:

It's mainly down to people expecting too much from a young regista still getting adjusted to the team and the posituon while playing mainly when the squad is rotated but also to the weird Mkhitaryan cult that does not allow people to compliment another player than the Armenian.

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What are you talking about? What weird cult? And why are you mentioning him in Asllani thread?
I complement every player, including Asllani. Wake up

Let me think. Brehme 89 said that his positioning was wrong 9 out of 10 times and we won Atalanta 4:0 despite Asllani, while I said that his rating of 5.8 is too low. Armenian cult supports Asllani!

Asllani deserved an 6, he was not too good, nor too bad, so an average game. And thats it.

Well, considering 4:0 win without Hakan and no mistakes, I would give him 6.5 rating.

I don’t really get this discussion. The point everyone keeps making about the fact that he’s 21, playing in a tough position, in a top team, with a very competitive midfield, has been cited ad nauseam. We get it.

He could develop into a really exceptional midfielder one day— sure, why not, I wouldn’t be shocked. But he’s not making much more progress here until he leaves and has more freedom to develop his game by doing. This is an excellent education for the lad, but we can’t expect him to hit whatever his peak is in his current role. He’s also an interista. I’m sure that adds a bit of extra pressure to the situation even if he says it doesn’t.

Somewhat comparable is Dimarco. I sincerely doubt he would have ever developed into the player he is today, if at 20 he was expected to stay in the first team and understudy Perisic to be his one day heir. And it wasn’t like Dimarco’s qualities and potential weren’t present at that age. He just needed to become a better footballer first.

I don’t think Asllani is doing all that poorly, but he would be doing himself and us a favor by finding space elsewhere to work on his game. Now if we can find another player or not to take his place in next years massive schedule is another question.

now simone is grooming asslani to be a regista with a good model hakan in front of him. although his playing time is not that much, i think this is better than playing in other inferior team regularly in totally different roles and system. the regular time might benefit asslani as overall player but when he come back here, he would definitely still struggle as regista

focus should be on whether asslani traits and capability is suitable as regista. to me, i felt like the midfield lost control when he played and his physical and speed is insufficient to cover his positioning issue. he tend to slow the game as well as his struggle with passing precision in high tempo movement. even barella doing much better job as regista than asslani.

i don’t think age is a factor for consideration for the regista issue. for example, from limited time agoume played in sevilla and in inter, if simone give agoume a shot at regista position, he could perhaps do a better job than asslani as his traits, defensive and offensive balance seems better. but simone is the coach and gets to decide on that. zaire emery who is 18 yrs are doing great as linchpin for psg so age is just a number.

as of now, i don’t see future for asslani as good regista. it’a more like he just happen to play there and he just do his job without much excels. it would be better to bet on other player for future good/great regista for inter

brehme1989 said:

The debate is not whether or not he will eventually become a great player at this role or another.

The debate is whether he merits a roster spot and is a worthy replacement of Hakan. That's not leaning his way, but he's lucky that we showed up in the games that Hakan missed and they were relatively easy. Only Atalanta was tough on paper. In the CL where he played

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No one of quality wants to be Hakans understudy, no one. He isn’t usually a player that leave a high amount of games for whom ever is down the pecking order.

You have unrealistic expectations of what quality you can have on that position, either you get a washed out player who is here for a last fat paycheque, a player of Klaassan quality or you get a development prospect. If you try you get a player who doesn’t fall into those categories you just get a very unsatisfied, grudging player and that is no good for the chemistry of the team.

So yes he merits it, we aren’t realistically getting anything better as his understudy and no Zielinski are no regista either. There is also no way Zielinski would ever accept so little playing time, if he comes it’s with the prospect of being a starter within a very short period. He is going to be first rotational player a Darmian of our midfield, but I doubt he be satisfied with that role for long, he comes because he likely see an aging Miki, whom he likely will replace on a bit longer horizon, he certainly is not coming to look at Hakan play I can guarantee you that much.

brehme1989 said:

He's more of a mezzala and he wants the ball more often, wants to run with it. He's still a kid of course and gets 'excited', but when it shows on the pitch it leads to a negative impact. If he's to stay at Inter he needs to be tamed and learn what needs to be done.

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Of cause he wants the ball and have it, he is 21 years old! This is how majority of more offensive minded 21 year old behave. You talk about him as he is some sort of dog, taming isn’t really the right term to use. He needs to get experience and that usually also means you need to allow him to make mistakes, because you learn from your mistakes.

brehme1989 said:

I haven't seen that from him based on performance, but I hope the coaching staff did if the decision is to keep him as the Hakan replacement.

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You and I don’t see him at training, Inzaghi and the coaching staff dos, there is probably a logic with what they are doing.

brehme1989 said:

We cannot know when we'll need replace a starter for 6-8 weeks or so, like Brozovic was out last season. Hakan stepped up, I don't see anything on Asllani based on his sample that he's up to this task.

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Again you’re basing it on a development prospect that is only 21 and who needs to learn one of the most challenging roles on a team. Of course he ain’t going to look marvellous and will look out of his depth sometimes because it’s such a challenging position. Of course he is going to screw up and behave like that 21 year old that he is. People were also all negative on Martinez and wanted him shipped out on the first boat because of his ball whoring, poor decision making and poor finishing in his first seasons, you need to accept this is part of having raw talent.

brehme1989 said:

If we need him for Atletico away or a top 5 European team, or in a derby or big match in Italy, I wouldn't be confident going in. It's a neuralgic position as many have highlighted and unfortunately he's not playing it well. He's not embarrassing himself or making costly mistakes, but he's not helping either and someone will pick up on that and punish us.

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He is 21 perhaps you need to tune down on criticism and expectations as this is part of developing players. We need to develop players if we want quality and be where it is fun to be, just look at Martinez a player of a quality we would be unable to get if not for the fact we developed him ourselves!

This is how you need to view it, then live with the fact he ain’t a big help right now.

You be sorry very sorry if we let him go and he then turns out to be a star in the making.

brehme1989 said:

The time to shine was vs Sociedad and Benfica away, but granted most of the team was rotated. He was subpar in both and confused the fuck out of our defense which led to goals conceded and key chances conceded.
Had a good game iirc vs Fiorentina away and was decent vs Lecce, which is a good sign, but cannot praise him for the Atalanta game. It's a good time to nurture him because the team is on a good moon, but rely on him in case Hakan is out? No chance. Barella has to play there even if that means we're losing an important engine in the midfield.

But I worry because I saw the same attitude that made those costly mistakes, but what changed is that his teammates choose to ignore him more often than not as if they don't trust him. And they'd know better.

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Again development prospect he ain’t a fully developed player how can I possibly cut it out so it’s easy to understand. He ain’t meant to be what you expect of him, I’m sure Inzaghi is aware of that.

Gal said:

You be sorry very sorry if we let him go and he then turns out to be a star in the making.

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If we let him go based on what he's done this season and the last, and what we need going into the next season, no, I won't be sorry.

I've seen 20-21 year olds perform. It's not an age thing. Problem with Asllani is that we took a bet based on some characteristics and something like 8 months of professional football, we spent a lot of money for that and he's been getting significant first team minutes as well due to our lack of depth. And we desperately need it to pan out. I'm sorry to say that it probably won't.
And let's be real, we got triggered because of that game he had against us, that's why we signed him.

As for Zielinski. If he was here, then Asllani would be getting Sensi-level minutes.

brehme1989 said:

If we let him go based on what he's done this season and the last, and what we need going into the next season, no, I won't be sorry.

I've seen 20-21 year olds perform. It's not an age thing. Problem with Asllani is that we took a bet based on some characteristics and something like 8 months of professional football, we spent a lot of money for that and he's been getting significant first team minutes as well due to our lack of depth. And we desperately need it to pan out. I'm sorry to say that it probably won't.

As for Zielinski. If he was here, then Asllani would be getting Sensi-level minutes.

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Just because a few 21 performers at that age don’t mean that some sort of rule or that other 21 won’t turn into something later on just because they aren’t performing at that age. Typically players that perform at that age is also out of our financial reach… we need to develop them ourselves and take our chances we don’t have 50-100m we can spend on any player. We need those players because they are our funds, we need to sell to buy and there no or little resale values in the likes of Zielinski, Hakan and other near or above 30 that we can pick up.

We are still poor as hell

No disagreements there but let me aks you this.

We paid an X amount of money to sign the kid who had 6-7 months of Serie A football, we gave him a rotation spot in Serie A top level,l and CL participation.

Tomorrow we decide we want to part ways. What clubs do you see going after him and how much could we be banking?

brehme1989 said:

No disagreements there but let me aks you this.

We paid an X amount of money to sign the kid who had 6-7 months of Serie A football, we gave him a rotation spot in Serie A top level,l and CL participation.

Tomorrow we decide we want to part ways. What clubs do you see going after him and how much could we be banking?

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We are obviously not going to sell him at this point if we have any sort of brain, we are going to develop him further at least until it makes financial sense to sell him on, it makes no rational sense to sell him before he is at least 24 years.

There other prospects we likely would sell soon because they reached max market value like Martinez, Bastoni, Barella and Dimarco. It makes financial no sense to move him on if we can see a potential in him for 4-5x current market value. I’m rather convinced of that reason our owner would push Martinez towards a sale I would almost be chocked if he is here next season.