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10 years of FIFJC will be 33 on Sept 3rd. He is not 27 and he is really fat now
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10 years of FIFJC will be 33 on Sept 3rd. He is not 27 and he is really fat now
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFis there a source that says he refused a pay cut?
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFGuys! What the hell? It's the contract they gave him! & now it's just unprofessional to muscle him out after all these years like this, when they're having second thoughts about it. He ain't some fucking guy! He is JULIONE!!! This ain't the way to treat your legends. It sends a bad sign to the whole world & future potential players, coaches, etc.
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10 years of FIFno real undeniable proof, only the press. the thing is they probably did offer him a cheaper contract, it would make no sense if they didnt.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFhopefully it all comes out in the near future
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10 years of FIFIt was a shock first but now when I have thinking about it in the big picture.
JC has probably 2 good years left but he also can be already done now on the level what Inter needs. There has been signals. This is harsh move but we realistically just replaced him one year early. Next year we would probably need to look for a new GK and then there might be just average and high priced keepers available. We got Handanovic for ok price. The most important thing is now that JC dont get a free move to Milan and shine there couple years.
The best move would have been selling JC but you cannot sell noone if the player doesnt want to leave or getting him to accept a pay cut. Now those were not available.
Still the fact remains that this wasnt a priority move and the money could have been spent better in outfield players.
JC has probably 2 good years left but he also can be already done now on the level what Inter needs. There has been signals. This is harsh move but we realistically just replaced him one year early. Next year we would probably need to look for a new GK and then there might be just average and high priced keepers available. We got Handanovic for ok price. The most important thing is now that JC dont get a free move to Milan and shine there couple years.
The best move would have been selling JC but you cannot sell noone if the player doesnt want to leave or getting him to accept a pay cut. Now those were not available.
Still the fact remains that this wasnt a priority move and the money could have been spent better in outfield players.
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this is just ridiculous. ask a superstar to take a pay cut and great interista is just crazy.people talk about him being injured and all other crap how many times have alvarez samuel chivu stankovic were injured last year and all of these players are plain useless last 2 years but inter has no problem paying big bucks to useless players but he wants to take money away from guy that saved inter many times in last two seasons. why does.t moratti sell some of these useless players that do nothing and alow cesar to keep his salary to me it more stupidto pay uselss players even 500k a year then to leave cesar on his curent salary
Are you an Interista or a JC Fanboy? Do you know how serious our financial situation is, especially without CL? There is no way we can hold on a 32 year old GK who earns 4.5 million € p.a. before tax. JC is NOT worth 9 million € p.a. Don't get me wrong on that, i love JC but Inter is #1.
Alvarez (1 million p.a.) is one of our most fouled players, Samuel (3 million € p.a.) contract expires next year, Chivu's salary was reduced by 1 million down to 2.5 million p.a., according to media from Italia and Serbia Stankovic is on his way out. Handanovic is a great GK and the best thing that could happen to Inter is JC leaving and Handanovic being GK #1.
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Forum SupporterLeo, if he wants to stay that much and if he loves Inter this much(as he's saying right now, when we are asking him to leave) he can easily say fine, I'll take 3m a season instead of 4.5.
We gave him a contract yea, but it also means we can rip it apart if we want to. His contract is what 2-3 years old now... He isnt close to what he was 2-3 years ago. Our revenue is dropping because we coudnt get into the CL, so its pretty plain to see the reason to ask him for a wage cut. And he should see it.
As far as Julio the guy, I'm pretty sure it would be easy to make him accept a pay cut. MM could do that in a phone call. I'm sure its the agent that wont agree. Now its too late since we have made a new signing.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFWhat a massive clusterfuck by the management, we wouldn't sign Silvestre till lucio left even when we needed a CB any way, we didnt need a keeper but rushed into a massive (although good) deal for one while we still had our rather expensive and awesome current one
if no one is queuing up for him now then why will anything be different in January
http://www.football-italia.net/20919/julio-cesar-stays-until-january
if no one is queuing up for him now then why will anything be different in January
http://www.football-italia.net/20919/julio-cesar-stays-until-january
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10 years of FIFMan. This "lower wages" koolaid is stronger than I thought. MM and co. have Inter fans lapping it up like crazy.
(1) NO. Inter cannot rip apart any contract. That's why it's called a contract. For it to ripped apart, JC has to agree to rip it apart. Otherwise, he can sit and make his 4.5mil for the rest of his contract.
(2) Again, why must he "care" about Inter and lower his wages? The people who have fucked Inter are NOT THE PLAYERS, it's the management. Where is the management's sacrifice and "love for Inter" after they fucked everything up? THEY ARE NOT SACRIFICING ANYTHING. Why doesn't Branca "love Inter" and resign? Why doesn't MM "love Inter" and resign/hand over the reigns to somebody more competent? Branca and co. still have their jobs and still fucking around. As I said before, this is like Wall St. bankers; fuck shit up but then want other people to bail them out. You guys are straight up ridiculous.
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I'm pretty sure there'd be a clause of some kind where compensation needs to be paid but the contract can be torn up if said amount is paid. There is also mutual agreement like with Lucio but if we have to pay £4-5 million to get him out of a further 3 year contract it'll be worth it.
Yes the management should be made to pay for their incompetence but they're the ones with the money and the ones that make decisions regardless of whether they are right or wrong. They're doing the right thing based on the circumstances they've made us find ourselves in however even if we had Champions League Football right now I'd have been hoping we take the same measures we have done already. They've finally realized how stupid it is to pay a player stupid money when you could be paying someone of equal or near equal talent a quarter of their salary.
Leave the 3 Million a year + Salaries for the vital players only. Were not in position to be frivolous with money like we were in the past.
I just hope the aim is to get the wage bill to under €100 Million either this year or next. If a majority of the squad make €2-3 Million a year it's more than possible. That's the type of wage structure we should have been using even when we were on top. We need to understand success isn't the be all and end all by simply throwing money at the issue. We need to be much more like Arsenal (except when were in a healthy position) offer the wages to the players who deserve them and pay for the players we believe will strengthen us without weakening financial security.
I've gone off on a tangent there but I agree with Nerazzurri4life in that we offer the contract and we'll have to accept it unless there's a clause or stipulation that allows us to severe it based on the length/time it's been signed for and whether or not it cancel out compensation rights or reduces the fee we need to pay. I can definitely see some substance in that argument otherwise why would we pushing so hard on a player who could happily sit on the bench and rack up another £6-18 million depending on contract length. It's a risky move unless there's a clause we have no idea about.
Yes the management should be made to pay for their incompetence but they're the ones with the money and the ones that make decisions regardless of whether they are right or wrong. They're doing the right thing based on the circumstances they've made us find ourselves in however even if we had Champions League Football right now I'd have been hoping we take the same measures we have done already. They've finally realized how stupid it is to pay a player stupid money when you could be paying someone of equal or near equal talent a quarter of their salary.
Leave the 3 Million a year + Salaries for the vital players only. Were not in position to be frivolous with money like we were in the past.
I just hope the aim is to get the wage bill to under €100 Million either this year or next. If a majority of the squad make €2-3 Million a year it's more than possible. That's the type of wage structure we should have been using even when we were on top. We need to understand success isn't the be all and end all by simply throwing money at the issue. We need to be much more like Arsenal (except when were in a healthy position) offer the wages to the players who deserve them and pay for the players we believe will strengthen us without weakening financial security.
I've gone off on a tangent there but I agree with Nerazzurri4life in that we offer the contract and we'll have to accept it unless there's a clause or stipulation that allows us to severe it based on the length/time it's been signed for and whether or not it cancel out compensation rights or reduces the fee we need to pay. I can definitely see some substance in that argument otherwise why would we pushing so hard on a player who could happily sit on the bench and rack up another £6-18 million depending on contract length. It's a risky move unless there's a clause we have no idea about.
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we keep our stars i don't want to be like arsenal and buy average players every year out youth is better then theirs our scouting is better then theirs so why would we lover our selfs to their levels
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Totally overlooking the point I was making... they make a profit but they don't use their financial position to their advantage... Inter fans would love our club to be in a position like their club is their own stadium... income of over £250 Million a year. Matchday income almost £100 million a year alone.. if we get a new stadium then we can keep the old habits of 10+ players on 5 Million a year. If we don't the way were offloading players/focusing on cheaper talent and cheaper wages is the way to go. Especially if we want to stay eligible for the Champions League if we don't bounce back this year.
I'd prefer us to have a long term focus, throwing money at a problem is short term and there'll be longer term consequences rather than what could be a 1 to 5 year transition phase were just starting. Everything could go to plan and we hit the ground running and were back in the Champions League and we can make losses for a few years before solving the wage issue. Not being in the CL this year though has kind of forced our hands, I hope we focus on commercial/matchday revenue as match as possible. And also focus on spending more on transfer fees and much less on salaries. That way we get high quality talent and if they prove themselves they'll be rewarded with a top tier contract that'll be the difference between us and Arsenal.
Having said all of that feel sorry for Julio Cesar being kicked out in the way he is and it proves there's rarely loyalty from both sides.
Inter Deloitte Football Money League : http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/...10VgnVCM3000001c56f00aRCRD.htm?WT.mc_id=sbg09
Arsenal : http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/...10VgnVCM3000001c56f00aRCRD.htm?WT.mc_id=sbg05
and that's with us winning the CL getting higher than normal TV money and winning the league and cup vs Arsenal having a trophyless season says it all about the management of the club.
We desperately need our own stadium so we get all the matchday income especially with shared TV deal that'll only be beneficial for us if were in a top 3 position.
I'd prefer us to have a long term focus, throwing money at a problem is short term and there'll be longer term consequences rather than what could be a 1 to 5 year transition phase were just starting. Everything could go to plan and we hit the ground running and were back in the Champions League and we can make losses for a few years before solving the wage issue. Not being in the CL this year though has kind of forced our hands, I hope we focus on commercial/matchday revenue as match as possible. And also focus on spending more on transfer fees and much less on salaries. That way we get high quality talent and if they prove themselves they'll be rewarded with a top tier contract that'll be the difference between us and Arsenal.
Having said all of that feel sorry for Julio Cesar being kicked out in the way he is and it proves there's rarely loyalty from both sides.
Inter Deloitte Football Money League : http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/...10VgnVCM3000001c56f00aRCRD.htm?WT.mc_id=sbg09
Arsenal : http://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/...10VgnVCM3000001c56f00aRCRD.htm?WT.mc_id=sbg05
and that's with us winning the CL getting higher than normal TV money and winning the league and cup vs Arsenal having a trophyless season says it all about the management of the club.
We desperately need our own stadium so we get all the matchday income especially with shared TV deal that'll only be beneficial for us if were in a top 3 position.
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i don't want us to buy overpriced players or give 10 players 5 mill a year that is stupid inter is more popular club around the world then arsenal but they don;t use that it is like epl propaganda got into their heads it is like inter thinks we got no chance in asia or n america or middle east they need to get up and go and promote inter in these places they did this year , i mean chinesse company wants to help us build a stadium if that does tell moratti how fmous inter is in china japan indonesia malasya and middle east i don;tknow what will. we don't need to go out and buy average players like arsenal does and hope they come good we have our own youth who are good but with strama unlike in past they will get a chance to shine. inter and other serie a teams should watch roma owners and see how you promote your club and hype it.
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I was talking about two years ago when he had two years left on his deal and was completely washed up. The only difference is that JC is still a great GK, Cordoba was done by that time and MM and co. didn't do the same shit they are trying to pull with Ceasar.
Double standards are the way of life on FIF.
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10 years of FIFCan you understand that the situation was different back then. We were paying big money to many many players. We had the money for that and willingness to keep the players who were making big money.
Today the situation is different. We don't want to do those things anymore. We might have the money or might not but we don't want to pay as much anymore because we want to develop the organization to a more healthier state financially. That's why Lucio left, Chivu got lower contract, Forlan left and this Julione thing is happening (even though it is handled in a totally fucked up manner).
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So again, this new ''project'' has just started and the all the wrong moves and shit results for the last two were just that right?
We didn't sell Eto'o and Balo and replaced them with hot junk because there was a ''new project'' in place but because Moratti and co. are bunch of incompetent idiots who thought Biabiany, Zarate, Pazzini, Forlan and co. can do the same job right?
Because that's exactly what am I reading here.