Lucien Agoumé

rockball · Aug 11, 2021

Isn't he the only one that can backup Brozovic? We will be insufferable the day Brozovic gets suspended or injured.

CafeCordoba · Aug 11, 2021

Same as last season.

Il Drago · Aug 11, 2021

CafeCordoba said:
Same as last season.

Even worse than last season. At least in second round we had the option of Eriksen in case of an emergency. We don't even have that now.

junior55 · Aug 11, 2021

Il Drago said:
Even worse than last season. At least in second round we had the option of Eriksen in case of an emergency. We don't even have that now.

Sensi can do that. Barella as well

Honestly midfield is the last of our problems for this season

cuba gooding · Aug 11, 2021

Why are we extending him only 3 years. He is young and his salary probably not enormous. Getting 5 years extension surely more beneficial for us.

CafeCordoba · Aug 11, 2021

cuba gooding said:
Why are we extending him only 3 years. He is young and his salary probably not enormous. Getting 5 years extension surely more beneficial for us.

Sure that would be beneficial for the club but at the same time it surely wouldn't be beneficial for the player. You need both sides of the table to agree the extension.

Il Drago · Aug 16, 2021

There are rumours about a loan move to Saint Etienne or Brest for Agoume

Urban · Aug 16, 2021

If we send youngsters on laon, then it should be in Seria A clubs only imho. This way, when they are fianally back we could use them immediately without waiting for them to adjust to the league.

Di Marco was sucsessful loan, he is ready to help us this season.

CafeCordoba · Aug 16, 2021

Agoume was already in Spezia. Played some but I don't think he played enough. Probably would play more in those clubs in France. Different solutions work for different players.

.h. · Aug 16, 2021

it all comes down to the player really. Some people just need first team action - Esposito is a good example (so far) of that. Other players need top flight experience. Others need to domesticate/acclimatize to a league.

No easy answer. The art of youth development is working out what the right training path is for a kid.

Some guys need to be sent somewhere remote so they can focus on their training/work and have less distractions. Others need to be able to let their hair down to help them relax a bit.

This is no different to Mourinho/Hazard mentality conversation. Some people like being under pressure. Others dont.

Adriano@10 · Aug 16, 2021

Urban said:
Di Marco was sucsessful loan, he is ready to help us this season.

Hellas was di marcos 4th loan in italy......

brightbackground · Aug 16, 2021

He's the only defensive midfielder we have that can adequately replace Brozo when he's unavailable, yet the thought of keeping him has not once crossed their heads. Having a player under 20 in the squad must be repulsive to Marotta and Ausilio.

.h. · Aug 16, 2021

or maybe a guy who cant even break into the Spezia squad isnt good enough for Inter yet?

crazy thoughts, just throwing it out there

brightbackground · Aug 16, 2021

These shitty Italian teams like Spezia, SPAL etc. aren't interested in fielding players they don't own because there's no sell value for them, they just want cheap depth. Indeed Agoume only played when Ricci was injured (but it didn't work out for them because I just checked and he moved to Empoli on a free transfer). Just look at Esposito, SPAL would rather play a 38-year old Paloschi, now he's at Basel and he's balling consistently, so far at least. In that regard I do believe it's better to loan young players out to foreign sides, so better St. Etienne or Brest than Sassuolo or something, but this fetish for 'experienced' players is hurting Italian teams overall and contributing to their irrelevance on European competitions. In Spain, Germany and England top teams have no problems whatsoever fielding 18-year olds if they show some talent.

.h. · Aug 16, 2021

Well, yeah, that's true. But still, I think it's a bit of a sweeping suggestion that Agoume would be a first team starter for them if it wasn't for this cynical behaviour.

You have to look at the "average" Inter youth product - they often dont have professional careers. Even the 'big name' imports like Agoume - look at Colidio, he played a lot of games last season but hardly returned impressive stats. Xian Emmers - just been released to a 2nd tier club in Holland, who knows how regularly he'll play? Lorenzo Tassi - unemployed, Ze Turbo - looks like a squad player at a no name Chinese club. Pedro Delgado - barely plays.

We need to start producing better youth prospets, then we can talk about how other clubs are screwing us over. The best prospects we've produced in recent years, arguably, have been Bonazzoli (barely plays, doesnt really look Serie A level), Andrea Pinamonti (maybe get some game time at Empoli, lets be honest)... Radu is probably the best? Senna Miangue - some relegation candidate Belgian club...

You're really looking, imho, at the symptom, not the cause.

Same theme if you look at our team who played in NextGen - which was probably our best generation of youth in several decades?

Starters:
Di Gennaro - serie C bench player?
Pecorini - Serie C, possibly bench player not clear
MBaye - played 8 games for Bologna last season. 20 the season before.
Spendlhofer - Ascoli at Serie B, was out on loan last season to some Israeli club who are basically bottom of their league, where it looks like he didnt play that much
Kysela - plays for some club in the Czech Republic who doesnt even have a wikipedia page so who fucking knows
Duncan - Fiorentina, bench/rotation player at best at Cagliari on loan last season
Romano - hasnt had a team since 2019 by the looks of Wikipedia
Crisetig - Serie B with Reggina I think?
Longo - serie B with Vicenza, bench player last season
Bessa - I think no club for a season?
Livaja - Hajduk Split

rfU · Aug 16, 2021

brightbackground said:
These shitty Italian teams like Spezia, SPAL etc. aren't interested in fielding players they don't own because there's no sell value for them, they just want cheap depth.

I think when it comes down to it, teams want to win games (or get results), if Agoume isn't able to help Spezia reach that objective then he doesn't play, it's that simple. I've watched Agoume play a handful of times (even at U20 level) and I can't say I've been impressed. Again, our scouting needs to take a hard look at themselves and start producing.

crzdcolombian · Aug 16, 2021

rfU said:
I think when it comes down to it, teams want to win games (or get results), if Agoume isn't able to help Spezia reach that objective then he doesn't play, it's that simple. I've watched Agoume play a handful of times (even at U20 level) and I can't say I've been impressed. Again, our scouting needs to take a hard look at themselves and start producing.

they didn’t own Aguedelo and played him a ton. Think he is 20/21 from Genoa

you can’t send 18 year olds to 1st division teams then get mad they don’t play

IM21 · Aug 16, 2021

Agoume played really well for Spezia when he did play. Then suddenly he got benched for pretty much the rest of the year. So before sending him to a team, at least know if he has a chance of playing a lot. Id rather see him play in France, where young players play a lot, than play 10 games for a shitty Italian club.

ADRossi · Aug 16, 2021

Bastoni also went on loan in Serie A and established himself as a regular starter. It's possible, but it takes a special player.

brightbackground · Aug 16, 2021

.h. said:
Well, yeah, that's true. But still, I think it's a bit of a sweeping suggestion that Agoume would be a first team starter for them if it wasn't for this cynical behaviour.

You have to look at the "average" Inter youth product - they often dont have professional careers. Even the 'big name' imports like Agoume - look at Colidio, he played a lot of games last season but hardly returned impressive stats. Xian Emmers - just been released to a 2nd tier club in Holland, who knows how regularly he'll play? Lorenzo Tassi - unemployed, Ze Turbo - looks like a squad player at a no name Chinese club. Pedro Delgado - barely plays.

We need to start producing better youth prospets, then we can talk about how other clubs are screwing us over. The best prospects we've produced in recent years, arguably, have been Bonazzoli (barely plays, doesnt really look Serie A level), Andrea Pinamonti (maybe get some game time at Empoli, lets be honest)... Radu is probably the best? Senna Miangue - some relegation candidate Belgian club...

You're really looking, imho, at the symptom, not the cause.

Same theme if you look at our team who played in NextGen - which was probably our best generation of youth in several decades?

Starters:
Di Gennaro - serie C bench player?
Pecorini - Serie C, possibly bench player not clear
MBaye - played 8 games for Bologna last season. 20 the season before.
Spendlhofer - Ascoli at Serie B, was out on loan last season to some Israeli club who are basically bottom of their league, where it looks like he didnt play that much
Kysela - plays for some club in the Czech Republic who doesnt even have a wikipedia page so who fucking knows
Duncan - Fiorentina, bench/rotation player at best at Cagliari on loan last season
Romano - hasnt had a team since 2019 by the looks of Wikipedia
Crisetig - Serie B with Reggina I think?
Longo - serie B with Vicenza, bench player last season
Bessa - I think no club for a season?
Livaja - Hajduk Split

Certainly the level of quality coming from the academy could use some improvement. In Agoume's specific case, though, he was a semi-regular at Sochaux when we bought him at 17.

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