Lazio - Inter (4 Oct 20) [1-1]

brehme1989 · Oct 4, 2020

.h. said:
There's no definition for negligble, but I would assume it is more like if you accidentally brush your opponents face with your hand (as an accident), or as a joke you slap a friend a little bit because you were ex team mates. You see situations in other sports where things are ludicrously interpreted because there's no flexibility in the rule.

That was a DELIBERATE strike out. I dont even see how this can be argued.

Sensi also used "excessive force" to shove Patric away from him... That's perhaps the argument of your Forza Lazio Forums dopplegangers.

n4l · Oct 4, 2020

.h. said:
There's no definition for negligble, but I would assume it is more like if you accidentally brush your opponents face with your hand (as an accident), or as a joke you slap a friend a little bit because you were ex team mates. You see situations in other sports where things are ludicrously interpreted because there's no flexibility in the rule.

That was a DELIBERATE strike out. I dont even see how this can be argued.

you guys are the one who are getting hyper technical.

The player was not able to even see what he was "striking out" against. He was not facing vidal and didn't see vidal til after he rolled over and already "struck" Vidal.

Just like motta's hand was INTENDED to be used to shield and be around the opponents chest but ACCIDENTALLY hit his face, how can you, without being biased, say immobile INTENDED to hit vidal? Or that he wasn't intending to just push the player away who's coming and pushing him while on the floor?

Don't be partisan about this shit, but it's too late for that.

If the ref was very confident about his red for immobile, he definitely wouldn't have "made up for it" with the sensi red.

brehme1989 · Oct 4, 2020

.h. said:
that doesnt look like *negligble force* to me!

He got hit around the ear and he's holding the front of his face.

Yet it's nothing like Busquets 2010 or Rivaldo 2002... He tried to milk a red card. That's disgraceful. We have the VAR, if the ref felts it's a red, he would consult that, not Vidal's theatrics. Fuck. This. Shit.

Doffy · Oct 4, 2020

Wtf is happening again. :lol:

Its like people support different clubs on this forum. Talk about virtuesignaling, let's take it to the next level. Fuck off.

Just a frustrating match. If anyone should be blamed it should be the ref with stopping play every 2 minutes

.h. · Oct 4, 2020

n4l said:
you guys are the one who are getting hyper technical.

The player was not able to even see what he was "striking out" against. He was not facing vidal and didn't see vidal til after he rolled over and already "struck" Vidal.

Just like motta's hand was INTENDED to be used to shield and be around the opponents chest but ACCIDENTALLY hit his face, how can you, without being biased, say immobile INTENDED to hit vidal? Or that he wasn't intending to just push the player away who's coming and pushing him while on the floor?

Don't be partisan about this shit, but it's too late for that.

If the ref was very confident about his red for immobile, he definitely wouldn't have "made up for it" with the sensi red.

because its so common to see players who roll over randomly strike out with their right arm fully stretched like that

OH JUST STRETCHING, REFEREE

Contact doesnt matter, actually, if you re-read what I posted. It's the intention that matters.

I'd assert Immobile's red was MORE of a red than Beckham vs Simeone, personally.

n4l · Oct 4, 2020

.h. said:
because its so common to see players who roll over randomly strike out with their right arm fully stretched like that

Contact doesnt matter, actually, if you re-read what I posted. It's the intention that matters.

I'd assert Immobile's red was MORE of a red than Beckham vs Simeone, personally.

So again, the partisanship here is, you're ASSuming he has intent to violently strike. But when we get it (like Motta or Sensi), you ASSume there is no violent intent.

Also, to know that both decisions are bs, in BOTH CASES, the ref did not even have a clear view of the incident (the strike, where on the body it occurred etc). He was reacting to the reaction of the "hurt" players; aka vidal and patric.

CafeCordoba · Oct 4, 2020

You know me full well I don't go Inter fandom first in any case ever (except maybe if I argue with some bhenchod fans of other teams). But to me these two reds are not comparable. browha put it well that Immobile is a clear red, no questions. Sensi's red is not a yellow if it doesn't hit the head/face. It didn't hit the head, it was a shove to the chest, to get the bhenchod further as he was aggressively very close to Sensi.

Busquets has nothing to do with either cases. Vidal milked the red yes, but there was a contact to the head, the slap was pretty fucking hard. Clear red, emotions spilled over. Sensi just tried to get Stefan out of the way, it was not emotions splling over, he just shoved "come on get the fuck out of the way man" style. Stefan milked the red well also, but VAR should have overturned it.

I'm not biased at all, you guys know me.

vasilios · Oct 4, 2020

jesus christ guys

let's get back to what matters here and that's that we fucking blew this match. lazio could have been down to 5 players and it wouldn't have mattered.

magnesium · Oct 4, 2020

MOTM : King Arturo Vidal...

.h. · Oct 4, 2020

CafeCordoba said:
You know me full well I don't go Inter fandom first in any case ever (except maybe if I argue with some bhenchod fans of other teams). But to me these two reds are not comparable. browha put it well that Immobile is a clear red, no questions. Sensi's red is not a yellow if it doesn't hit the head/face. It didn't hit the head, it was a shove to the chest, to get the bhenchod further as he was aggressively very close to Sensi.

Busquets has nothing to do with either cases. Vidal milked the red yes, but there was a contact to the head, the slap was pretty fucking hard. Clear red, emotions spilled over. Sensi just tried to get Stefan out of the way, it was not emotions splling over, he just shoved "come on get the fuck out of the way man" style. Stefan milked the red well also, but VAR should have overturned it.

I'm not biased at all, you guys know me.

yeah exactly

I'd like to think when it comes to decisions for the referee, I'm pretty unbiased as well based on my track record here. HAPPILY say when we've been given a soft penalty/handball or when we should have been punished harder...

I'm obviously not a qualified referee, but based on the rules I posted a page or two ago, that's my interpretation.

Candreva Crosses · Oct 4, 2020

The one being biased is the one against Inter in a situation that is 100% in Inters favor.

n4l · Oct 4, 2020

vasilios said:
jesus christ guys

let's get back to what matters here and that's that we fucking blew this match. lazio could have been down to 5 players and it wouldn't have mattered.

Parolo was CB for an entire half and big Rom, UEFA europa player of the year, couldn't do a damn thing.

.h. · Oct 4, 2020

n4l said:
Parolo was CB for an entire half and big Rom, UEFA europa player of the year, couldn't do a damn thing.

Yeah lukaku was pretty shit tonight. Should have subbed him instead of Lautaro tbh.

n4l · Oct 4, 2020

CafeCordoba said:
You know me full well I don't go Inter fandom first in any case ever (except maybe if I argue with some bhenchod fans of other teams). But to me these two reds are not comparable. browha put it well that Immobile is a clear red, no questions. Sensi's red is not a yellow if it doesn't hit the head/face. It didn't hit the head, it was a shove to the chest, to get the bhenchod further as he was aggressively very close to Sensi.

Busquets has nothing to do with either cases. Vidal milked the red yes, but there was a contact to the head, the slap was pretty fucking hard. Clear red, emotions spilled over. Sensi just tried to get Stefan out of the way, it was not emotions splling over, he just shoved "come on get the fuck out of the way man" style. Stefan milked the red well also, but VAR should have overturned it.

I'm not biased at all, you guys know me.

busquets situation is the same. We were mad (rightfully so) because biscuits reacted like a bitch to a hand in his face/neck area. Vidals case is even worse, given that he is the one who proactively went out of his way to provoke the player, then feign and react like a bitch. That's true gobbi move there.

By letter of the law, biscuits red was "correct". But I didn't see any Inter fans saying "yeah, that's the right call there"...

delaurentis · Oct 4, 2020

This game showed Inter has made little to no progress at all. The same old story of Conte waiting for subs, players who are lacklustre when it matters,...

CafeCordoba · Oct 4, 2020

vasilios said:
jesus christ guys

let's get back to what matters here and that's that we fucking blew this match. lazio could have been down to 5 players and it wouldn't have mattered.

Yes. This is very worrying. Lazio was UTTER CRAP. A fucking disaster of a team. And we couldn't create shit. Did we create other chances than the goal, his shot after a nice combination which went wide and the Brozovic's failed shot to the post?

Lazio, a disaster of a team, created better chances than we did, and we played 17 minutes with man advantage.

brehme1989 · Oct 4, 2020

n4l said:
Parolo was CB for an entire half and big Rom, UEFA europa player of the year, couldn't do a damn thing.

He'd so something about it if we were winning by 2 already without his contribution.

34 goals last season, 10 of them "inutili" as per Lele Adani and another 8 penalties.

He'll score goals, but don't expect him to win games.

CafeCordoba · Oct 4, 2020

n4l said:
busquets situation is the same. We were mad (rightfully so) because biscuits reacted like a bitch to a hand in his face/neck area. Vidals case is even worse, given that he is the one who proactively went out of his way to provoke the player, then feign and react like a bitch. That's true gobbi move there.

By letter of the law, biscuits red was "correct". But I didn't see any Inter fans saying "yeah, that's the right call there"...

Come on! Vidal went to Immobile for faking a foul. Why is Immobile "allowed" to get provoked in that case, when he's one who cheated?

bolo · Oct 4, 2020

So we not get scudetto this year? So sad
i blame Darmian

Candreva Crosses · Oct 4, 2020

CafeCordoba said:
Come on! Vidal went to Immobile for faking a foul. Why is Immobile "allowed" to get provoked in that case, when he's one who cheated?

The one who is provoked is Vidal. The same way people got provoked by Busquets. That's the only comparison I can see when people bring in the Busquets situation

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