Inter - Genoa (3 Nov 18) [5-0]

Balor · Nov 4, 2018

.h. said:
icardi's imposition on our play is a known quantity as he's been here for a number of years... we've played plenty of games with, and without, him.

And we've generally won very few of the games we've played without him. Sure the general play looks better when the likes of Keita or Martinez lead the line, but keep in mind that's having a midfielder or a support striker up top, their instinct in the final third is looking for someone to lay off to. It may work against Genoa but it won't against better teams.

Icardi is a phenomenal striker, probably the most clinical finisher in the world right now. His goals have won us big games in his time here and will continue to do so. It's on management and Spaletti to make the team behind him better so we get that level of fluid football to go with his insane goal scoring.

Alas, we've seen much better football being played in recent weeks with Icardi in the team as well. It's all coming together. I have no doubt it would have been a 5-0 result with the captain on the pitch also.

Jane The Virgin · Nov 4, 2018

Ill jump into the Icardi debate and give my two cents.

First of it is not that simple. It is not black and white, but i get what browha meant, even though I didn’t see that fluidity more than the game we beat Lazio or when we beat Sasuolo 7:0 (with icardi on the field), also one (me in this case) could argue that Icardi would’ve scored at least 2 goals today. Sometimes things click the right way, after the Barca game, we’re a different team mentally. Our confidence is high and players are starting to get a sense of responsibility more than usual.

Also Icardi made it obvious today that he makes a very very insanely difficult task seem like a piece of cake - surrounded by at least couple of defenders all the game out of nowhere scores for fun.

Mario has been really good. He is always open to receive a pass and never complicates. For some reason i cant see him and Radja playing together, i dont know why but i think there will be no chemistry between them.

RobertMugabe · Nov 4, 2018

phonk said:
We will have trouble scoring in this game

Agreed

Shark · Nov 4, 2018

Shark said:
LAutaro i s gonna explode in this game

Agreed

chipschups · Nov 4, 2018

Jane The Virgin said:
Ill jump into the Icardi debate and give my two cents.

First of it is not that simple. It is not black and white, but i get what browha meant, even though I didn’t see that fluidity more than the game we beat Lazio or when we beat Sasuolo 7:0 (with icardi on the field), also one (me in this case) could argue that Icardi would’ve scored at least 2 goals today. Sometimes things click the right way, after the Barca game, we’re a different team mentally. Our confidence is high and players are starting to get a sense of responsibility more than usual.

Also Icardi made it obvious today that he makes a very very insanely difficult task seem like a piece of cake - surrounded by at least couple of defenders all the game out of nowhere scores for fun.

Mario has been really good. He is always open to receive a pass and never complicates. For some reason i cant see him and Radja playing together, i dont know why but i think there will be no chemistry between them.

Imagine we took full gambling selling Icardi and rely solely on Lautaro, this match basically say it all.

Icardi
Perisic ---------------- Politano
Jomario --- Nainggolan
Brozovic

Icardi
Perisic --- Nainggolan ---- Jomario ----
Brozo -- Vecino

Bold part, hmm that radja goal lol But I get what you mean, with 4-2-3-1 it seems impossible for both playing together, but if we play 4-3-3 like this its very possible both player can coexist. Also on this match we seen spalletti basically copied what Barca did when put Rafinha as playmaker winger, guess that one could be another alternative especially if Vrsaljko playing and he ready bombarding right flank while Jomario slight moving to center. But for now seem LCM is his best position so far.

Anne Marie · Nov 4, 2018

Today, arguably, JM and Gagsy are fully charged, Martinez needs a bit more time on the bench :lol:

brakbrak · Nov 4, 2018

Anne Marie said:
Today, arguably, JM and Gagsy are fully charged, Martinez needs a bit more time on the bench

Yep, he played like shit and understandably so. The dude is young and obviously not ready to start for us, but I wish baldie would play him off the bench in the 75th minute or so, to me there was no reason to keep Icardi after we were leading 3-0, that was the perfect moment for Lautaro to get some experience. I still have high hope for Lautaro, he's only started twice after all.

Anne Marie · Nov 4, 2018

Oh, I dont mean anything specifically, did we win 5 nail against Genoa in 2010 also

Doffy · Nov 4, 2018

this is weird. we are getting spoiled. 5-0 wins, jmario motm, 7 game winning streak blablabla. forza fucking inter

Harpsabu · Nov 4, 2018

Jesus, we score 5 goals once without icardi now we dont need him.

varmin · Nov 4, 2018

I think it's not up to Mario but to Icardi about the tactics. Icardi really excels in 4-2-3-1 while with Lautaro we can switch to 4-3-3. That is actually very beneficial because the team is less predictable.

Il Drago · Nov 4, 2018

Doffy said:
this is weird. we are getting spoiled. 5-0 wins, jmario motm, 7 game winning streak blablabla. forza fucking inter

ArmaLetale · Nov 4, 2018

Oh man! this Icardi debate comes to the surface again :awyeah:

junior55 · Nov 4, 2018

Harpsabu said:
Jesus, we score 5 goals once without icardi now we dont need him.

I haven't read where this is said and for sure im not going back to check but for sure people need to let go on this thought that we are Icardi dependent.
I can't remember a single game in the last 5 years where Icardi has not played and we have actually struggled. Even fucking Eder replaced him good enough last year when he got injured for 2-3 weeks.

He is a great finisher but for sure we are more fluid without him on the pitch. That 2nd goal of Politano would never be possible if Icardi was in the pitch as he wouldn't be so deep as Lautaro , hence creating the space

.h. · Nov 4, 2018

Yeah - thats a great example Junior.

Dont get me wrong, Icardi often does the impossible, and I really appreciate him for that, but when we do have him, it can often blunt and dull our overall attacks. When it works, it's great, but we've all seen more than enough games where nearly every attack funnels to him, they get slowed down, and we lose the chance. As you say, that politano goal probably would never have happened if Icardi was on the pitch - also we would have had Politano deeper most likely too.

I think it's healthy for us to have the debate about him...

In many ways, it's kind of like the Ibra debate - Ibra was a great player for us, but we became too reliant on him and he was kind of 'too much' of a focal point for us. It's no surprise that one of JM's key things was to diversify our attacking strategy via Pandev and Eto'o and Sneijder, rather than just having Ibra. Even ignoring the Ibra/Eto'o swap, he wanted Milito to play alongside Ibra.

chipschups · Nov 4, 2018

Icardi will receive the ball or flick it properly to Politano not stumble on the ground every minute.

brakbrak · Nov 4, 2018

junior55 said:
I haven't read where this is said and for sure im not going back to check but for sure people need to let go on this thought that we are Icardi dependent.
I can't remember a single game in the last 5 years where Icardi has not played and we have actually struggled. Even fucking Eder replaced him good enough last year when he got injured for 2-3 weeks.

He is a great finisher but for sure we are more fluid without him on the pitch. That 2nd goal of Politano would never be possible if Icardi was in the pitch as he wouldn't be so deep as Lautaro , hence creating the space

Yep,no one really ever said that we don't need Icardi.

Which season are you talking about?We struggled without Icardi against Crotone, Genoa and barely won (with the luck of Karamoh's amazing goal).
Are you kidding?Regardless of the great finish, the build up of the second goal was luck to begin with. First of all, yao mario's ball was supposed to be for Lautaro, he tripped and luckily the ball just rolled into Genoa's dumb defender and Politano stole the ball to him. None of the goal except for the 5th one really came from "fluidity" of our attack.

Devious · Nov 4, 2018

Anne Marie said:
Since when you have turned on your philosophical mode?

Palacio said:
Devious the wise!

firmino · Nov 4, 2018

While I understand devious' reasoning, that post still gave me a bit of headache

wera · Nov 4, 2018

The important thing is that Icardi can get a breather, Martinez get experience (he is missing timing) and us still winning.

As of now, because of Vecino, 9G and Icardi, we have won some of our more shittier games. And there might be a game where we play as good as yesterday and we still don't win. Just be happy we won and stop starting senseless debates, you'll soon see that even tho we are doing great, we can't win everything, we aren't the only ones with good streaks

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