Mateo Kovačić

KevinB · Aug 17, 2015

Shaun said:
I'm not leaving yet. Although, your campaign to take my Best Overall Poster award was noted by me much earlier in the year. I question your ability to maintain this effort of making high quality posts throughout the year. Especially as it must be taking a toll on your looks with the reduced hours of sleep that is a given if an antipodean wants to impress the FIF masses. Soon you shall be looking like a regular Fitz.

Whereas my time honored tactic of slowly building my FIF efforts to a crescendo during the months leading up to the Oscars shall be my plan again.

The777 · Aug 17, 2015

ElDuccio said:
Bergomi is right. Kovacic never give the 100% of him. He was like Coutinho. In the national team he was good, at Inter most times bad.

When you have good players around you, you play better. Not when Guarins, Brozos and wingers like Nagas or Santons. Not counting Shaq as he could find a chance to establish himself with Kova.

wera · Aug 17, 2015

@Wobblz

I doubt there will be any less fans here, we have built a certain community, even old posters that haven't posted in 5 years still come back (even to only lurk)

Demokritos · Aug 17, 2015

browha said:
That is true, but my point is that your opinion shouldn't be swayed so simply just because a player is sold etc. These are all transient things and the true fan transcends that. Every player will be gone at some point, and if a player causes this much upset, then I'd suggest someone is a fan of the player not the club.
Whatever happens to Inter I will be an inter fan because their struggle against juve, etc, over the last few decades really symbolises the underdog for me. There are so many things I don't agree with, but these don't change that main fact.

Couldnt agree more. I will still be an inter fan. I have experienced the dark ages (90's), experienced losing idol Ronaldo, losing ibra, seeing Adriano fallen, etc. But still, it is inter the team I am following since I am child.

Kovacic will be gone at some point, even if it is not this year. We all knew that. But we did not expect him going this early. Especially when we finally spent big this summer. Really hope to see kova lead the kova k-dog jovetic and icardi combo. And He is still growing, and people are really eager to see him shinning with black and blue shirt, at least, for one season. This is a shame that we did not see a rare talent like him shine with us.

I think another reason people are so angry about this, is we lack of confidence to our management, to our scouting system, or to our coach. When we are losing ronaldo, we know moratti will spent money for other TOP talents. But now, how many of us holding the confidence that we will get another TOP talent, who grow with us, and who will give us faith/hope in 2-3 years? The frustration towards our management, and the pity for not seeing kova shine with black and blue make everybody so anger, upset, and sad here.

I am really sad, even more than we were losing Ronaldo. Cause I really dont have much faith on management in coming years. And I know I will still care and follow inter news, and will probably suffer for it....
It feels so shit...

ElDuccio · Aug 17, 2015

KevinB said:
Normally. But these are not normal times, hence why we need to get players for the future, adapt in the new era of football. If we already start abandon hope on that, well fuck it

What do you mean with normal times? I mean, look at Milan (yes, today i said it 2-3 times

okerface

they buy Bacca. Im sure they would buy players like Witsel and some good CB if there wasnt this italian player hype with Romagnoli and Bertolacci. They wanted James Martinez, then buyed bacca, wanted Witsel and want Ibra. Thats how it works.

If we had the 10 (well, now 35! hopefully we will see a new player) Milions from Kovacic, the money from shit players, from Hernanes.. im sure Inter was CL today thanks to real top players. After this, you can think of devolping players. Thats like Juve is doing now!

First win with top players, then devolping!

Universe · Aug 17, 2015

Shaun said:
I'm not leaving yet. Although, your campaign to take my Best Overall Poster award was noted by me much earlier in the year. I question your ability to maintain this effort of making high quality posts throughout the year. Especially as it must be taking a toll on your looks with the reduced hours of sleep that is a given if an antipodean wants to impress the FIF masses. Soon you shall be looking like a regular Fitz.

Whereas my time honored tactic of slowly building my FIF efforts to a crescendo during the months leading up to the Oscars shall be my plan again.

Wings · Aug 17, 2015

Bluenine said:
To be fair, Inter have been trying to flog these players in the market. Very few clubs are interested, and these players have been rejecting those clubs. For e.g., Guarin turned down an offer from Turkey because he thinks Inter fans love him (and possibly because Inter is a bigger team in a better league).

I think all this Mancini hate is way over the top. He wants certain type of players. Its upto the Directors to sell the unwanted players to generate enough money to buy Mancini's players. The directors clearly failed in selling the likes of Guarin, Ranocchia, etc so far, so they sold Kovacic which was probably plan B. You cannot blame a coach for wanting certain type of players (wingers, midfielders with physical presence, etc). If anyone has failed here, it is the Directors. Now what is most important is what they do with the €50m. If they fail to provide the coach with his first choice targets, THEN this will be an unmitigated disaster.

No. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's exactly the wrong way to look at it. We don't live in the era of the all-powerful manager that has 100% control over everything. We're not Chelsea or Manchester City, who can afford to buy every exact thing their manager wants and more. And Mancini is not Sir Alex Ferguson to warrant that level of control. The 'project' doesn't start and end with Mancini, and the club certainly doesn't start and end with Mancini. He shouldn't be the dictator. Unless he's at a super club like PSG, it's Mancini's job to coach the players he's given, even if he didn't want them. If he can't/won't, well maybe he shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

If you want to see an example of the dangers of this approach, just look at what happened post-Mazzarri. After giving in to almost every one of Mazzarri's demands, Mancini was left with a Mazzarri team. And yet you want to repeat the exact same thing here. Carry on...

Pravesh · Aug 17, 2015

The price tag seems to be a very good one, especially for a player, who has not been able to show his true colours. Sadly in this Inter, even Messi might find it hard to show its true potential.

I am very shocked with this transfer for sure, as it was very unexpected. We just brought in a player (with potential) - Kondogbia and I was so much hoping that he would support Kovacic and the midfield. But baam, there we sell Kovacic, where as players like Guarin and Hernanes are still here with us. Lets just hope that we bring in a proper replacement of Kovacic and not just a random player, just for the sake of buying.

Forza Inter and best of luck Kovacic.

slow motion · Aug 17, 2015

Demokritos said:
Couldnt agree more. I will still be an inter fan. I have experienced the dark ages (90's), experienced losing idol Ronaldo, losing ibra, seeing Adriano fallen, etc. But still, it is inter the team I am following since I am child.

.....

I am really sad, even more than we were losing Ronaldo. Cause I really dont have much faith on management in coming years. And I know I will still care and follow inter news, and will probably suffer for it....
It feels so shit...

Yup.. someone who has been supporting Inter for long time, at least from 90's, should be used to dealing with this kind of circumstances. suffering repeatedly from supporting this club is the art of being Inter fans since a long time ago. It's only one player like kova or shaqiri being vanished then some of you told not wanna be inter fans anymore. Giving critics or being angry with management decision can still be tolerated, but stop being inter fans? Don't make me laugh you off unless you start supporting inter after calciopoli.

Shark · Aug 17, 2015

Universe said:

That's a magnificent gif, uni. Absolutely perfect. No sign of a hick that it is a loop. I'm stunned to say the least, mesmerized even. I can stare at it all day. Thanks!

Also peele ftw!

thatdude · Aug 17, 2015

Inter legend Luis Suarez believes selling Mateo Kovacic is similar to letting Andrea Pirlo leave the club.

“Mateo had to become the focal point of Inter’s future,” Suarez, who played over 250 games for Inter told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“When you saw him play, you could tell he was on another level compared to the others.

“The comparison with Pirlo is appropriate. Andrea left because the club did not have the patience to wait for him to mature, and then he became the player everyone knew he would.

“Kovacic has the quality to become the new Pirlo. And don’t tell me he struggles in the defensive phase because at the same age Pirlo defended badly, but then improved in that aspect of his game.

“The lad needed teammates at a higher level that could help him grow, but instead he found himself as a leader at 20-years-old, and [he had to] assume responsibilities that were too big so that his flaws have been magnified and his productivity disappeared.”

Can't say I disagree.

qb4ever_2k · Aug 17, 2015

We were right selling Eto'o, he's old and on high wage.
We were right selling Sneijder, he was always injured and couldnt play anywhere beside AM.
We were rigth selling Coutinho, he was weak and inconsistent.
Now we're being right selling Kovacic again. Next will be Icardi, the most limited striker ever, see we're always right.

After being right so many times, we must be on top of...

Bluenine · Aug 17, 2015

Wings said:
No. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's exactly the wrong way to look at it. We don't live in the era of the all-powerful manager that has 100% control over everything. We're not Chelsea or Manchester City, who can afford to buy every exact thing their manager wants and more. And Mancini is not Sir Alex Ferguson to warrant that level of control. The 'project' doesn't start and end with Mancini, and the club certainly doesn't start and end with Mancini. He shouldn't be the dictator. Unless he's at a super club like PSG, it's Mancini's job to coach the players he's given, even if he didn't want them. If he can't/won't, well maybe he shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

If you want to see an example of the dangers of this approach, just look at what happened post-Mazzarri. After giving in to almost every one of Mazzarri's demands, Mancini was left with a Mazzarri team. And yet you want to repeat the exact same thing here. Carry on...

Who said anything about giving the manager 100% control over everything? Maybe you misunderstand what I said, so let me explain.

The ideal system is when a club defines the vision. Then hires managers and players who suit that vision, so that even with a churn, there always is consistency and good transfers are rarely wasted. In that system, the manager's influence in the transfer market can be limited. Based on last 5 years evidence, Inter HAS NO VISION. If you disagree, please do show me the vision that explains our hiring of our last 7 managers. Its fucking as random as it can be.

The best case scenario we can assume, is that Mancini was hired because the club either believed (and adopted) in HIS vision for Inter, or sat down together and agreed on a vision. If that is the case, then Mancini's vision and the club's vision are the same now. If part of this vision is for Inter to play with possession and width, then we must give the manager the wide players he needs. I am not saying that if Mancini wants De Bruyne, we must give him De Bruyne - the club is still responsible to manage the finances - but if he asks for a winger with certain characteristics, we must give hm a winger with similar characteristics (say a Perisic).

We also must define and adopt this vision for Inter for the longer term, whether Mancini stays or not. Which means that the next manager we hire should be an expert in playing with possession and width. So that all the investments Inter have made on players who suit this style are not wasted, and the next manager can start where Mancini left off and improve on the squad. That is how we can grow.

But the biggest danger is if we do not give our new manager the kind of players he wants. If Mancini wants a winger, and we tell him to use Hernanes or Kovacic there instead, that is disastrous. It brings into question why we hired Mancini in the first place for so much money. Because clearly we must have discussed and agreed all these things when we hired him... Inter must support their manager as long as he is working within the defined vision and within our financial plan.

Abyssight · Aug 17, 2015

Bluenine said:
But the biggest danger is if we do not give our new manager the kind of players he wants. If Mancini wants a winger, and we tell him to use Hernanes or Kovacic there instead, that is disastrous. It brings into question why we hired Mancini in the first place for so much money. Because clearly we must have discussed and agreed all these things when we hired him... Inter must support their manager as long as he is working within the defined vision and within our financial plan.

Don't we have the legendary winger Jonathan Biabiany?

interd1sia · Aug 17, 2015

you guys really need to differ between fed up because the team sold one of their best players and fed up because the management fuck up again and again and again and again and again. selling those two is just the tip of an iceberg. there were far much thing that gives the cue of their enough is enough

Andysam · Aug 17, 2015

I understand perfectly people saying that they don't want to watch Inter anymore, I think what some of the people here are failing to read is that it's not just about one player (and that's probably because some of you didn't like Mateo as much as some of us) but about what he represented with this new management, Kovacic represented everything the new management was supposed to be standing for: new Inter, long term project, youth project, being in the top for the long run not just for one or two years, good football... overall he was part of the hope we had of things taking a turn for the better, but now...

I have been interista since forever, it's in my blood and I can't just stop loving inter, but I'm really disappointed of the management and right now I really don't feel excited about the coming season or anything related to us (and it's so sad because three days ago I was more excited that I had been in a long time).

And then is also other things that come with Mateo's sale, the distrust in the management not just from we international fans but also from Italians, and people saying they feel betrayed and how they buy their abbonamenti believing in this new project that management has let clear doesn't exist.
And there's also the thinking about how we look to international football, especially with all the people that said before that Kovacic should have gone to a great team and he said all the time that Inter was a great team, and now is like "He is finally going to a great team", Kovac and Modric and Srna can be happy now...

Lui · Aug 17, 2015

Black&Blue said:
lol seriusly? 50 million? For a player that never decided a single top match or ever shined constantly for at least 3 consecutive games?? football is not just how many cool things you can do with the ball but also about attributes and character something that he never showed (and probably will never have), maybe he will fit much more in La Liga than Serie A but surely his price 35 million is already overvalued.

He has had a great impact on several games. Our entire squad goes disappearing in big games. He was quite consistent for a long stretch once mazzarri used him properly. There were also games that he outright owned. He has been followed by liverpool manchester barcelona and finally madrid. What does that tell you?

interd1sia · Aug 17, 2015

Bluenine said:
Who said anything about giving the manager 100% control over everything? Maybe you misunderstand what I said, so let me explain.

The ideal system is when a club defines the vision. Then hires managers and players who suit that vision, so that even with a churn, there always is consistency and good transfers are rarely wasted. In that system, the manager's influence in the transfer market can be limited. Based on last 5 years evidence, Inter HAS NO VISION. If you disagree, please do show me the vision that explains our hiring of our last 7 managers. Its fucking as random as it can be.

The best case scenario we can assume, is that Mancini was hired because the club either believed (and adopted) in HIS vision for Inter, or sat down together and agreed on a vision. If that is the case, then Mancini's vision and the club's vision are the same now. If part of this vision is for Inter to play with possession and width, then we must give the manager the wide players he needs. I am not saying that if Mancini wants De Bruyne, we must give him De Bruyne - the club is still responsible to manage the finances - but if he asks for a winger with certain characteristics, we must give hm a winger with similar characteristics (say a Perisic).

We also must define and adopt this vision for Inter for the longer term, whether Mancini stays or not. Which means that the next manager we hire should be an expert in playing with possession and width. So that all the investments Inter have made on players who suit this style are not wasted, and the next manager can start where Mancini left off and improve on the squad. That is how we can grow.

But the biggest danger is if we do not give our new manager the kind of players he wants. If Mancini wants a winger, and we tell him to use Hernanes or Kovacic there instead, that is disastrous. It brings into question why we hired Mancini in the first place for so much money. Because clearly we must have discussed and agreed all these things when we hired him... Inter must support their manager as long as he is working within the defined vision and within our financial plan.

then do you really think we had a vision right now? if so, then please enlighten me about this vision that the club is doing

Lui · Aug 17, 2015

Id buy that explanation if kova was sold immediately, and not a week away from the opener. Mancini is discarding what he doesnt like, and appears to not have a strong conviction in what he wants. A club should be better prepared than this.

Ronin · Aug 17, 2015

They probably sold him now because if they did it in the beginning of the transfer window, people wouldn't buy season tickets.

Mateo Kovačić

Rate the player

10 - Legend. One of the absolute best players in the history of the game (think Meazza, Matthäus)

9 - Icon. One of the best players in club history, and one of the best players in the world

8 - Great. A player of high quality that adds a lot to the team, one of the best in the league

7 - Good. A valuble asset to the team, one of the 10-15 best in his position in the league

6 - Above average. Useful player, but will never be a key player for a team

5 - Average. Completely average player. Does his job, but doesn't stand out

4 - Below average. Not a disaster, but would be better if we didn't sign him in the first place

3 - Anonymous. Will never be remembered due to the fact nobody expected anything from him

2 - Useless. Adds nothing of value, detrimental to the team when on the pitch

1 - Infamous. Awful signing, will go down in history as one of the shittiest Inter players ever

La Grande Inter

Capitano

might be Deadpool

Capitano

La Grande Inter

Moderator

Capitano

Allenatore

Primavera

Allenatore

Moderator

Allenatore

La Grande Inter

Primavera

Primavera

Prima Squadra

Capitano

Primavera

Capitano

La Grande Inter