Andrea Stramaccioni

Should Strama be sacked?


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I know.. I was in support of him taking care of us LAST year. I wanted Pep (even tho i think he is bit overrated till he proves otuside Farca). But since he is here, support him. There is nothing more wrong than sacking him now when there is no suitable replacement.

Ffs, do we really need to sack one average (atm) coach, but who can improve, and bring another average one? The biggest mistake we keep doing..

like i've asked a couple other people, though, that argument could be applied to ranieri or gasperini, or even benitez.

I 1000000% agree stability is fucking important, and lacking, but at the same time, if a coach doesn't deliver the results (I'M NOT saying that Strama isn't yet, but I'm just saying hypothetically) then he has to go.

To build a long term project, you have to justify with some reasonable short-term success too.
 

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The fuck? They all have at least 2-3 seasons behind them. Montella and his Roma sucked when he was their caretaker, now this is his third season, Simeone is coach for 5-6 years now, Pep was coach in Barca B AND had the best team in the world, and Conte was coach for 4-5 years before going to JuBe as well.

Didn't Montella get a brand new Fiorentina squad over this summer? Have you seen Fiorentina play yet?

Did Simeone manage to turn around at Pathetico Madrid? You out of all people should be aware how much did that club suck for years.

How much did it take for Conte to start winning with Juventus?

You people refuse to accept that we can not afford this clown to learn on his mistakes with us. And it's not like that results are the only thing that is lacking. We are playing like complete shit with Stramaccioni at helm.
 

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Didn't Montella get a brand new Fiorentina squad over this summer? Have you seen Fiorentina play yet?

Did Simeone manage to turn around at Pathetico Madrid? You out of all people should be aware how much did that club suck for years.

How much did it take for Conte to start winning with Juventus?

You people refuse to accept that we can not afford this clown to learn on his mistakes with us. And it's not like that results are the oly thing that is lacking. We are playing like complete shit with Stramaccioni at helm.

Why try to twist it? Point is, THEY WERE ALL MUCH MORE EXPERIENCED THAN STRAMA!
 

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With all due respect, Strama is incomparable to most of those names.

Strama went from coaching a youth team to a team that had had 5 coaches during 2 years, a team that went from winning the treble to ending at 6th place and a financially weak team with the ambitions of a financially strong team.

Conte gained senior level experience at four clubs as a manager before joining Rubentus. Same goes for Diego Simeone.

I think it's funny that you mention Montella, considering that he did worse at Roma (his first club at senior level) than Strama is doing now at Inter (his first club at senior level). He wasn't even that spectacular at Catania, and it is too early to deem his stay at Fiorentina a success or a failure - and even if he continues at this level, the pressure on him is much less than that on Strama.

You could argue that Guardiola didn't need 'time', but then again, he is an exception to many rules; such as the rule that applies in this above case.

I agree that the current Inter team is devoid of ideas, and Strama is partly to blame for that. But sacking him now, or even in a month? That would be beyond stupid. Unless something disastrous happens, I think and hope that Strama will stay.

He needs and deserves more time. The problem is that he didn't have any senior level experience before being appointed. Instead of firing him, I think he should get the chance to acquire some of this.

So long story short, we should have never hired the guy in the first place.

Let's correct that mistake as soon as possible.

---------- Post added at 00:20 ---------- Previous post was at 00:18 ----------

Why try to twist it? Point is, THEY WERE ALL MUCH MORE EXPERIENCED THAN STRAMA!

WHY THE FUCK WAS HE HIRED THEN? Inter is not fucking Chievo, we need the CL money like people need the air to breathe.
 

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this hate on the coach is laughable tbh, people are just looking for reason to hate instead of looking at the whole picture

when inter played well and lost, people wanted strama fired, and when we played badly and won, they still did the same thing, even though we won the treble by playing like shit and scraping troll wins against small teams

doesn't anybody realize that we are currently ahead of lazio, fiorentina, roma, and milan? or that mourinho's first 5 league games with us were only better by 1 point?

it's fine to criticize the coach's tactics when they are as terrible as they were today, but give him time to figure it out ffs. The 4-3-2-1 that we've been using for the past 3 months was originally used to make the best of last years old squad, now that we have a much better squad and we know that that formation isn't necessarily ideal, we have to trust the coach to come up with a new formation that can best fit the new players
 

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Inter didn't play well in a single game this season.
 

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browha said:
To build a long term project, you have to justify with some reasonable short-term success too.

:star:

That's the questionmark if you guys believe Strama can achieve this short-team success or not.

Based on the results or our general play?
 

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:star:

That's the questionmark if you guys believe Strama can achieve this short-team success or not.

Basin on the results or our general play?

To be honest, on either.

Like I said, I'm still prepared to give him another 6 weeks or so to form a squad properly and really develop something out. If we lose all the games for the next 3 weeks, then yeah, clearly, we should sack him I think. If we continue with our current form, he has 6 more weeks with me to show some real development in terms of the playing attitude of the squad.


Clearly currently is not good enough. But the hope is that he will show those glimmers of skills we saw in the Primavera level where he was a fucking AWESOME manager. Beyond ANY dispute.
 

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Had our players finished their chances in the first half against Siena like professionals should and we would be 2 points behind Juve and nobody would be talking of sacking the coach.

Our players are all supportive of the coach and his ideas. Something Benitez never did.

He was able to get results with a back three. Something Gasperini never could.

People are asking for his sacking, yet which coach can we get at the end of September?? Inzaghi maybe??
 

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Jesus...

I'm lost for words. This forum has absolutely fucking lost it.

This forum has never changed man :D


It's always been pro-Mancini Vs. anti-Mancini, then pro-Mourinho Vs. anti-Mourinho.
 

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Creating chances against Siena at home but not scoring any goals is good enough for some people to defend this dude.

Fucking Siena. At GM. Oh how the mighty have fallen....
 

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Conte:

Arezzo, Bari, Atalanta, Siena for 5 years before Juventus.

Simeone:

Racing, Estudiantes, San Lorenzo, River Plate, Catania before Atletico Madrid. Simeone started his campaign in Catania with 3 losses and 1 draw before snatched a win.

Montella: (it's quite comparable to Stramaccioni with the way they started their first team career as caretaker)

caretaker at Roma (7 wins-4 draws-5 losses) and Catania (11-15-12) before Fiorentina. His first 19 matches as a first team manager: 9-5-5.

His first 10 games in the first full season as first team manager: 4-5-1 => 17 points (incl. Coppa) and that's after half a season.

Stramaccioni record:

5-2-2 (end of last season)
5-2-3 (2012-13) => 17 points (incl. EL)
Total of 1st 19 matches as first team manager: 10 wins - 4 draws - 5 losses.

If we thought Montella is a good coach, Stramaccioni achievement shouldn't be too bad tbh.
 

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Why are you still posting?
 
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Creating chances against Siena at home but not scoring any goals is good enough for some people to defend this dude.

Fucking Siena. At GM. Oh how the mighty have fallen....
Of course that's good enough, how you can win if you don't score? we were not bad at all vs. Siena, better than today for example, but when you just can't score you also can't win. to blame Starma that our players can't score it's ridiculous.
 

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Of course that's good enough, how you can win if you don't score? we were not bad at all vs. Siena, better than today for example, but when you just can't score you also can't win. to blame Starma that our players can't score it's ridiculous.

You just made my point.
 

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I still have a lot of faith in :heart: Andrea Stramaccioni :heart:

He will only grow.

Last year we had some of those great, experienced coaches, and we were 16th at this time of the year. Now, with an unexperienced Strama, we're 4th with only a few points behind juBe. And he WILL get better with time. We may often not play well right now but the results in points are there and can only improve. We're in a fine position seeing that the whole season is still in front of us. Also we've had games where we played fine.

FORZA STRAMA!
 

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Like is said, give him time. there are no better options in the Marcet and we are in 4th place, 4 points away from Jube and Napoli. our situation isn't bad at all.

wow,, i didnt realise we're in 4th place,,
and at weekend, we play againts fiorentina, sampdoria againts napoli, and juve againts roma
i hope strama not losing that crucial points,, and made a wise tactics
I dont care we played like a crap as long as we get a three point every match
and proved it all doubter was wrong,,
 
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