European Championships 2012 Draw

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And szasza, please edit your first post. Group name with bold and the teams with normal fonts. It's kinda disturbing having it the way you do, it's an international forum you know...
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Damn, and we got Russia, AGAIN... We'll lose to them like 4-0, we always do, they are nightmare for us... :(

Not attractive group, and yet strong.. Many teams with chances to go to Euro.. Russia is a sure, and all other except for Andorra have at least slightly chances... I wanted another group to be honest.. :)
 

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Damn, and we got Russia, AGAIN... We'll lose to them like 4-0, we always do, they are nightmare for us... :(

Not attractive group, and yet strong.. Many teams with chances to go to Euro.. Russia is a sure, and all other except for Andorra have at least slightly chances... I wanted another group to be honest.. :)

I disagree with you, Ireland, Russia and Slovakia are the only teams that have a chance to qualify from this group. Macedonia and Armenia won't pose much of a problem for the other three.

I don't see Russia as the clear favorite either. I think Slovakia are every bit as good as them.

I think Ireland will finish 3rd, unfortunately. Won't be too far off 2nd but will ultimately fail to qualify, hope I'm wrong though.
 

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I hope you are wrong as well :p

And I do think we have chances, small, but yet are chances... We have beaten you before :p I'm actually afraid only from Russia.. Vs andorra and Armenia are a must wins.. We'll lose both against russia.. As for slovakia, well, i also think we can beat tham. Watched few times in the WC qualification and i wasn't impressed at all...

Ireland on the other hand, are good team, good teamwork. IMO Russia will be first, Ireland second, Macedonia third, Slovakia forth, Armenia, and Andorra last... :)

The problem with our NT is the motivation.. When motivated we can beat almost everyone.. But when played against smaller teams we flop, coz we are not motivated enough. i hope this changes this qualifiers, and i hope we beat you :p

Let the best team win the group ;)
 

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Yeah, 3-2 in skopje.. That defeat cost you WC, i think you didn't qualify becouse of that :)

And the team we currently have, compared to the team we had back than, this one is 2 times stronger.. But the coach is porr, who knows what can happen :) I just can hope for the best. You have better team than you had back than i think... So as i said, russia first, ireland second place. You deserved to go to this years WC as well, but we know what happened with france...
 

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Yeah, 3-2 in skopje.. That defeat cost you WC, i think you didn't qualify becouse of that :)

And the team we currently have, compared to the team we had back than, this one is 2 times stronger.. But the coach is porr, who knows what can happen :) I just can hope for the best. You have better team than you had back than i think... So as i said, russia first, ireland second place. You deserved to go to this years WC as well, but we know what happened with france...

can you tell us why you think the coach is poor???!!!! im very curious to hear this.and i know who the coach is,im just not sure why u say he's poor??
 

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Because I've seen him in the u21 NT... He was making so much fucking mistakes there. He was making mistakes at this NT as well...

First, you can't play Novevski as RB.. He is a fucking CB, play with 3 CBs, or play with 2 and good RB.. Noveveski is too slow, not a good passer, nor RB is his position. It is like playing Terry as RB constantly :) He does not use the speed and delivers that Lazarevski can offer from the right side.

Another thing is how he puts the attack. Pandev as a lone striker, while Naumovski, who can't play as SS, plays as one.. And once again, there is no one to deliver balls to Pandev, and he still comes back to take the ball... Basicly, he plays with 3 SS in the attack, while 2 of them aren't SS... :) I'd prefer Ibraimi over every attacker we have, besides pandev of course...

There is much more i can count, but let's leave it this way :) I hope I am wrong though, i hope we can move from that fucking 4th place in the qualification round.. But i doubt unless Jonuz changes his mind 180 degrees :)
 

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Because I've seen him in the u21 NT... He was making so much fucking mistakes there. He was making mistakes at this NT as well...

First, you can't play Novevski as RB.. He is a fucking CB, play with 3 CBs, or play with 2 and good RB.. Noveveski is too slow, not a good passer, nor RB is his position. It is like playing Terry as RB constantly :) He does not use the speed and delivers that Lazarevski can offer from the right side.

Another thing is how he puts the attack. Pandev as a lone striker, while Naumovski, who can't play as SS, plays as one.. And once again, there is no one to deliver balls to Pandev, and he still comes back to take the ball... Basicly, he plays with 3 SS in the attack, while 2 of them aren't SS... :) I'd prefer Ibraimi over every attacker we have, besides pandev of course...

There is much more i can count, but let's leave it this way :) I hope I am wrong though, i hope we can move from that fucking 4th place in the qualification round.. But i doubt unless Jonuz changes his mind 180 degrees :)

im gonna have to see some games to understand what u really talking about.but,just beacouse he's not big name choach doesnt mean he's bad,you had katanec,and he did nothing.i truly think the problem with the macedonian NT is the players,besides pandev,they dont have any other player that can make any difference,just bunch of reserves or starters on bad teams across europe.
 

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Yeah, that is partially true.. I know that well known coach does not mean he is good and oppsoite, just look at Mourinho, who knew him before he made Porto Europian Champions? :)

Everything i counted above says his mistakes.. We'll see how we play with Monte Negro on Wednesday, i hope we can get something from it..
 

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Yeah, that is partially true.. I know that well known coach does not mean he is good and oppsoite, just look at Mourinho, who knew him before he made Porto Europian Champions? :)

Everything i counted above says his mistakes.. We'll see how we play with Monte Negro on Wednesday, i hope we can get something from it..



listen pajo,just admit it,besides pandev,there's no other player in macedonia at this moment that can do jack shit.even the greatest coach in the world will not be able to do anything with the talent macedonia has right now.sad,but true!!
 

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I do admin we have crap players overall and we suck.. But saying only Pandev is good player ain't true.. I admire most Goran popov, our LB.. I can't understand how he was never got by some stronger teams. He is the one who holds our play, passes forward, conntects defence and midfield, and even attack... He plays in Heerenveen in Holland, one of their key players... :) IMO, he contributes to our NT more even than Pandev has. Also, Mitrevski, and Novevski are class...

I personally like Lazarevski as well, Grozdanovski too, but they aren't class like those mentioned above... All others are crap, or double crap :lol:
 

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I do admin we have crap players overall and we suck.. But saying only Pandev is good player ain't true.. I admire most Goran popov, our LB.. I can't understand how he was never got by some stronger teams. He is the one who holds our play, passes forward, conntects defence and midfield, and even attack... He plays in Heerenveen in Holland, one of their key players... :) IMO, he contributes to our NT more even than Pandev has. Also, Mitrevski, and Novevski are class...

I personally like Lazarevski as well, Grozdanovski too, but they aren't class like those mentioned above... All others are crap, or double crap :lol:

hey man,this coach is not that bad after all huh:) how was the game??
what stadium was it played man?? is gradski over with remodeling ?
 

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No, they played on Gradski, but only the northern part was on use.. All other were cloes due to remodeling :)

remember what I told you before in my posts, that we should not play the formation we have played before, and the mistakes Jonuz was making? Well, yesterday he played Vlade LAzarevski as RB, played with two CF, Pandev and Naumovski. And he gave A LOT room to Goran Popov to play, he dribbled, passed the ball often, took our play in his hands, which allowed pandev to move forward more easily..

SO, what I gave as examples of his mistakes, he did it yesterday.. it's like reading my posts here :lol:
 
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