ILuvInter said:
I love to make debates with this guy
We get something useful out of it and i used to do this in a different forum .
Sure you do.
ILuvInter said:
1- Cannavaro is great and he will prove it if he played regularly this season or as a super alternative for Cordoba or Burdisso.
So we agree that he can be an alternative for Cafe and Matrix. If so then we are both on the right track.
ILuvInter said:
2- How can you rate a player who barley touched the ball last season in italy and then you want him to perform well and Super against teams like Czech and Germany ??? To play good in Euro 2004 , you should play consistently in the league you play with . and although all of this he was the one who delievered the cross to Ruud to score one of the spectacular goals of euro 2004 ....just look at the way he touches the ball then judge , or i tell u something : have u seen him under Cuper on the first matches of the season??? have u seen him at highbury and the goal he scored ????? have you seen Reggina match under Zac and the way VDM played ???!!! He's Great and young so he is the future of holland and Even Advocaat , Cruyff have said that Man the guy can play on the right or on the left!!! , he's got great control over the ball......so you will see this guy next season then we all will judge rather than regretting like every season when we leave a star like Carlos , Pirlo etc...... let us learn !!!!
-Ok i may sound harsh on the guy, but this is my opinion. Many people on this forum always accuse wonder boys that they may turn out to be one season wonders, but then they hate to imply this on our own Inter players.! Why wouldnt we consider VDM a one season wonder..? Good games with Ajax and with us and that is it.
-Karagounis, Dellas and Baros were not consistent with their clubs at all and played a major role with their national teams. Dellas ended with the best defender and Baros as a top scorer. Even Diego Forlan one of the few strikers who can always miss an open goal plays very well for Uruguay.!So please dont tell me you need to play all the time in the league. The whole Italian team u were cheering for underperformed and most of the players played the whole of last season; all the matches.
-What touches are you talking about..? The guy did not produce a single decent pass throughout the whole tournament and looked like a headless chicken. Agaisnt Germany, Lahm the kid outplayed him and the ball he crossed to Ruud was just a fluke and not even the biggest Dutch fan would have thought it would end up in the back of the net.
-Yeah he did have good matches under Cuper but so did Cruz and look where did they both end. The goal he scored against Arsenal was class but we both know that a decent goalie would have picked the ball with ease.
-Advocaat and Cruyff..!!
Please this is too much..
Advocaat is by far one of the worst coaches i've ever seen. Isnt he the same guy who put Makaay on the right and the same guy who took off Robben against Germany,etc.. i can go on and on. Even you used to curse him on the other forum and your post was edited
-Cruyff was amazing with the ball and i used to LOVVVE the guy and he made me love the no.14 more than anything but lately all his talk is about Barca, and how great Barca should be, etc... His love for Barca now is just too much and this guy alongside Pele should really stop giving comments and suggestions because they look funny. I remember Cruyff telling Barca, you shouldnt try to sign RVN, well yeah i am sure he is banging his head in the wall now.
Anyway, i never said lets lose the guy. I just said he shouldnt be a regular on the expense of playes like Stanko and Emre. 2nd thing, i was just commenting on your phrase "Dutch Future". It just looked funny because there is no reason why we should call him the Dutch future. What would you call Robben, VDV, Snijder then.!!
ILuvInter said:
3- How many times have u seen the hammer get injured ???? how many times have Capello ordered him for his teams whether Roma or Juve ????
I didn't say that he will start up but in tough games he is the excellent back-up for davids esepcially that we know that Davids got short fuse (nervous , get alot of red cards etc....) besides this Inter midfield always depended on The Hammer , why change ??? though u always say that we want consistency .......let this guy play like a season then judge him maaaan
-Capello took with him Zebina and we are laughing at him so if he insists on the player it doesnt mean he is good.
I used to love Cristiano but in the past 2 seaons he performed in a silly way and even when he is not injured, he is not fast and his tackles are not as good as before and as i mentioned the 30m passes he tries to do looks pathetic.
-You are right about consistency. I wanted to see Cristiano starting the coming season but after all these players came in, then we cant use the word consistency now, could we ? If you have to chose between the hammer or between Davids, whom will you pick.? You just said it yourself, he can be the "Back-up" for Davids. So if me and you are both considering him as a back-up then i cant see the problem, eh.??