Roberto Mancini

Am I the only one which saw Erikson's England national team in our squad vs liverpool?

pointless longball, great defense, mismatched midfield (gerrard lampard - cuchu, deki), defense first. When is Mancini gonna realize Eriksson won nothing in tournaments.

VLE said:

Am I the only one which saw Erikson's England national team in our squad vs liverpool?

pointless longball, great defense, mismatched midfield (gerrard lampard - cuchu, deki), defense first. When is Mancini gonna realize Eriksson won nothing in tournaments.

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Good point, ive often thought that myself since of the similarities and the fact that mancini is eriksons old protege.

And Handoyo, sure a red card is about the worst thing you can get in such a game, but its doesnt excuse not being able to string 3 consecutive passes together for the rest of the game or constantly loosing the ball right after conquering it or not getting a single shot on goal. Mancini's approach before the red was wrong and after the red it was horibly because if history has shown anything it is that Inter cant defend an entire game without letting goals in, especially with 10 men. I can safely say ive never seen any other team be so crippled about a red card that they couldnt get the ball over the middle with the team following just a few times...

With the players that Mancini had available, who else could he have fielded? I thought it was a good idea to to play maxwell as a LM instead of chivu. Mancini wanted a solid back four and Maxwell is better going farward. It obviously didnt work but it wasnt such a bad idea. One Mistake i totally blame mancini for, was playing materazzi. Some of you may disagree, but i saw it coming. In the EPL the fields are bigger and there is more space to cover. PLaying Materazzi who is a very slow defender against toress who is extremely fast was a disaster bound to happen. It was a mismatch and the only way materazzi would be able to cover torress is if he man marked him, but that didnt work as an unlucky bounced spured torres away and materazzi fouled. Rafa knew before the game that materazzi was a slow paced defender and he totally exposed it. Mancini should have known better and had chivu, who is fully capable of filling that role and impressed with cordoba after materazzi's dismissal. Thus in my opinion Mancini made one big mistake and that was fielding materazzi, knowing that his pace was a liability at anfield. Some of you may disagree, but Rafa knew what he was doing.

Well everybody are smart after the game,he should fielded him or he is to slow....after the red card we should have....ect.

It's easy to be General after the War!

Joss said:

With the players that Mancini had available, who else could he have fielded?

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SUAZO!!!!!!!

bjwam4 said:

SUAZO!!!!!!!

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Materazzi dismissal meant that defending was Inters top priority away from home. Mancini needed every big strong body to defend from set pieces since we conceded something like 20 set pieces if not more. Materazzi's dismissal meant no offensive play. Suazo would have been great if mancini still wanted to play an offensive game, but he didnt. Mancini was not going to risk anything with 10 men. So who would have suazo been subbed on for? Ibra is a big strong player who can cover one of liverpools colosseses, in kuyt, crouch, hyppia, caragher. Maybe stankovic, but Like i said with Materazzi's dismissal defending was top priority.

Joss said:

With the players that Mancini had available, who else could he have fielded?

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No one is questioning the selection of players, just the ultra defensive approach he obviously instructed them to have both before and after the card.

But it doesnt really if everyone had been fit, figo is too and slow to be a factor anyways.

It was evident last season as well that our midfield simply wasnt up to par when it comes to CL games. But we did nothing in the summer to fix the obvious issues.

Apart from celtic, schalke and olympiakos we have the worst midfield in the this last 16 round. Player wise its ok, but balance wise its ridiculously poor.

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb22o.html

Mancio: My Anfield mistakes Friday 22 February, 2008

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Roberto Mancini admits he got his formation and substitutions wrong against Liverpool, but blasted Marco Materazzi for his dismissal.

Inter are still reeling after their 2-0 first leg loss at Anfield and the Coach has come under criticism for his decisions, most notably introducing a half-fit Patrick Vieira instead of striker David Suazo.

“With the benefit of hindsight, you could say I should have thrown on Suazo,” confessed Mancio.

“In truth he was meant to come on, but when Ivan Cordoba was stretchered off I preferred to see how the team settled down. Admittedly, I could have waited a little longer before introducing Vieira.”

The tactician was in a reflective mood and looked back on the turning point of the match – Materazzi’s two bookings in the opening half-hour.


“He should have been more careful and seen what kind of atmosphere there was after there were two yellow cards in the first 10 minutes. He should not have put a hand on Fernando Torres’ shoulder.”

Liverpool protested that they deserved a penalty for Vieira’s handling offence, but Mancini responded sarcastically.

“Vieira covered his face with his hands, that is why the referee did not award a penalty. In any case, the ref had already done his duty…”

Playing with 10 men for an hour almost got Inter a 0-0 draw, but they conceded two goals in the last five minutes to make the second leg at San Siro a very tough ask.

“I am proud of what my team did. Without that 2-0 result they would be considered the heroes of Anfield now. In my view, they still are.

“We have already made our first step towards overturning the first leg by selling out San Siro. A stadium full to the rafters will give us an important extra push.”

Azzkikr said:

No one is questioning the selection of players, just the ultra defensive approach he obviously instructed them to have both before and after the card.

But it doesnt really if everyone had been fit, figo is too and slow to be a factor anyways.

It was evident last season as well that our midfield simply wasnt up to par when it comes to CL games. But we did nothing in the summer to fix the obvious issues.

Apart from celtic, schalke and olympiakos we have the worst midfield in the this last 16 round. Player wise its ok, but balance wise its ridiculously poor.

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J.Zanetti,Viera,Cambiasso, and Stankovic are not just ok midfielders, they are some of the best in the world. Zanetti and Veira are the captains of Argentina and France two of the best national teams in the world. Cambiasso is one of the best DM in the world. Inter has a defensive mid, but they have the best strike force in the world at the moment, which alows them to play that way. Ibra, Suazo can lead an offensive attack on their own and Cruz and Crespo are clinical finishers. Inter has never depended on built up play to score, because they dont need to. Sometimes it doesnt work, but then again every teams tactics can faulter sometimes. Going down to 10 men away from home in a big CL game would disrupt any teams tactics. On top of that Cordoba had to be strenched off with an injury in last 10 min of the game. You think if those circumstances happened to any other team, they wouldnt have suffered? Like i said Biggest mistake Mancini made was playing Materazzi at anfield, against Torres. His pace was the reason he picked up the two yellow cards.

Indeed, that kinda approach and defensive setup, relying on physique or individual brilliance from a forward to score works in serie A.

But only in serie a, its the primary reason why we becomes the laughing stock of the cl year after year. Its evident that its not good enough for europe. Its too easy to read, when there is no speed, combination play or anything remotely unexpected comming from the midfield.

And stankovic certainly isnt one of the best in the world at anything.

Azzkikr said:

And stankovic certainly isnt one of the best in the world at anything.

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He was last year (when wasn't injured)

Only in the first half of last season.

He started sucking after christmas last season and hasnt stopped.

Hes on a roll, a very bad one that is.

I've added a poll for the heck of it. And for me the answer is YES YES YES. I'd rather be a team like Inter and be consistent in 38 matches than play like headless chicken (Milan) and win 13 matches and be undeservedly judged as the best team in the world.

Tough question in poll. I say NO, because many can win the league with such a squad, but not as many can master knockout games. And I doubt Mancini can win the league next season as well. Never was a fan of him, even though I must say that Inter's play last season was the best i've seen after the Barcelona of 2005.

I say no as well.

As i said before, Mancini's biggest contribution to inter has been off the pitch, the players has pretty much taken care of the stuff on the pitch without mancini having to interfer very much.

Mancini has cleaned up the club, and done a good job at that, but his tactical knowlegde is non-existing.

I believe that now that the club isnt chaotic and amateurish anymore its time to move on to a coach who can bring the last bit of european glory as well. I dont see why it has to be one or the other, surely a great coach should be able to get both with the material currently available and with what moratti is willing to spend.

Tough decision but yes for me. As long as we win the Scudetto, I have nothing to complain about...the CL would just be a huge bonus.

And plus, I'm sure Moratti knows that there is an obvious problem in our midfield so I'm sure he'll fix that come the summer.

Handoyo said:

I've added a poll for the heck of it. And for me the answer is YES YES YES. I'd rather be a team like Inter and be consistent in 38 matches than play like headless chicken (Milan) and win 13 matches and be undeservedly judged as the best team in the world.

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I think the same

I said yes too.

It's just because...when I started supporting INTER 10 yrs ago, Scudetto was not easy at all. INTER was like a cursed club. All the great players money can buy, great coaches that were succeed here & there...once they all came to INTER, nothing happened. The best was 2nd in Serie-A when Gresko made blunder on that last match vs Lazio. Never won in Derby, in fact I think we got humiliated 5-1 or something like that.

Then I got busy with life & totally cut off from soccer. INTER won 2 Scudetti, I heard. But wasn't around to feel it, if u know what I mean. When I finally got to see INTER again, it's INTER today. It's totally different from INTER last time I saw it. & like it or not, Mancini made it happen. & I'm not ready yet to have that taken away.

Put it this way, after we beat the Scudetti # of cheater juBe...then I'll say, alright, let's get CL no matter what.

kylan05 said:

I said yes too.

It's just because...when I started supporting INTER 10 yrs ago, Scudetto was not easy at all. INTER was like a cursed club. All the great players money can buy, great coaches that were succeed here & there...once they all came to INTER, nothing happened. The best was 2nd in Serie-A when Gresko made blunder on that last match vs Lazio. Never won in Derby, in fact I think we got humiliated 5-1 or something like that.

Then I got busy with life & totally cut off from soccer. INTER won 2 Scudetti, I heard. But wasn't around to feel it, if u know what I mean. When I finally got to see INTER again, it's INTER today. It's totally different from INTER last time I saw it. & like it or not, Mancini made it happen. & I'm not ready yet to have that taken away.

Put it this way, after we beat the Scudetti # of cheater juBe...then I'll say, alright, let's get CL no matter what.

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Totally agree, Mancini is really important in the "change" that Inter had for knows how is win, because with the great players that inter had, the mind of almost was so poor respect to win, so Massimo knows that mancini proyect is gonna be good, and mancini get the result with the first tim cup in years, i know that is not the CL but for a team that forget win was the "oper mind" and see that Inter could win, after that Inter keep get results in Coppa and Calcio, so we had more that 10 years without Scudettos and mancini give us that happiness, so we should support him and the team in times like these, for the great moments that Mancio give us again...Forza Mancio! forza Inter!

he must improve
Inter must win a CL in the next year (if not this season). scudetto is not enough, because all the other great clubs won CL in the last decade(s) except Inter. if he can't achieve that, Moratti shall find another who can.