Davide Frattesi

.h. said:

To be honest there's no world where this fee is acceptable. This fee either ends up being an amazing deal for us or an amazing deal for them in 3 years time. But I can't imagine he will be worth 35-40m in 3 years. Its just a question of whether he is worth 10m or 70m


In the same way Barella and Bastoni look like steals on hindsight

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The market today is based to the needs of the rich clubs and the hype of the player. If Frattesi plays some remarkable games in the derbies or in CL, and some rich club needs a player with similar profile, he could be easily shipped off for a big fee (similar to Tonali). Otherwise he could be good and reliable player for us, like Hakan or Brozo, but nobody to offer something close enough to his real value.

vex said:

For me, the price is acceptable tbh. There is no world in which you get currently the most promising young italian midfielder for sub 30 or around 30 mil like some guys here hoped for. Barella with similar statistics and trajectory cost us around 50 mil and that was almost four years ago.

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Don't get me wrong the price is acceptable now, but my point is that in the future we will be very over the moon or very pissed off at the fee. I don't think we will be in a position where we are like eh that was a fair deal

.h. said:

To be honest there's no world where this fee is acceptable. This fee either ends up being an amazing deal for us or an amazing deal for them in 3 years time. But I can't imagine he will be worth 35-40m in 3 years. Its just a question of whether he is worth 10m or 70m


In the same way Barella and Bastoni look like steals on hindsight

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I don't understand this comment at all. Why can't the player be worth what was paid? The time and potential is a crucial factor in deal valuations.

IMO Barella and Bastoni were no steals at all. They hadn't shown more to be worth more than what we paid back in the day. The fact they grew to be what they are now doesn't mean they were sold too cheap. You can't predict the future and that's why young players with no big club / international / NT experience aren't sold for enormous money.

CafeCordoba said:

I don't understand this comment at all. Why can't the player be worth what was paid? The time and potential is a crucial factor in deal valuations.

IMO Barella and Bastoni were no steals at all. They hadn't shown more to be worth more than what we paid back in the day. The fact they grew to be what they are now doesn't mean they were sold too cheap. You can't predict the future and that's why young players with no big club / international / NT experience aren't sold for enormous money.

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That's kinda my point though about looking in hindsight. The point in making is in 3 years time, 80% this guy is either worth like 10m and we have to golden handshake or something him, or he's worth like 80m and we are delighted with the transfer. I don't think he will be worth 30m in 3 years time.

Barella was correctly priced when we bought him. He had a breakthrough season at Cagliari & the Azzurri, and while the 44m price looked high, it was a good deal for everyone. He was suitable to Conte's midfield & that supercharged his development.

Bastoni price was crazy & he was a "plusvalenza cooking" deal with Atalanta. Inter sent several youngsters the other way to cook the books for both clubs. Bastoni had hardly even played for Atalanta when Inter bought him for 31m, in fact he wasn't even a regular for their main primavera if I remember correctly. We got really, really lucky there because Bastoni wasn't even worth a third of that. Its like when Juventus "bought" Arthur for 80m, imagine if Arthur had suddenly turned into a KDB. Thats the kind of luck we had, we won a fucking lottery. I give a lot of credit for this to Conte & the suitability of Bastoni at LCB a couple of years after we bought him. There is no way Inter planned on this.

I think Frattesi is fairly priced, he isn't at the level that Barella was when we bought him. But he is almost there, and then there has been football inflation since then. Its a good deal by Inter, and as .H. says, time will tell whether this turns into a great deal or a damp squib. It could go either way, but my bets are on this working well for us. Mainly due to his suitability to Inter's midfield.

Bastoni wasn't bought for the sake of cooking the books. We wouldn't spend like 25mil on an 18 year old if we didn't believe in him. If it was like an all player swap we could talk but players just padded it out a bit. Don't get me wrong I otherwise agree with you we hit the lottery with him but still

Initial deal for Bastoni was 8m plus bonuses. The rest of the sum was just plusvalenza cooking. We ended up paying 31m for Bastoni because we needed Atalanta to take:

- Eguelfi for 6m (he's in Serie D now)
- Bettela for 8.5m (struggled to start at Palermo last season)
- Carraro for 5m (spent last season in Serie C)

ronnyle said:

Man this deal just keeps getting more expensive as the day goes on.

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I know right. With every report it seems like the obligation amount increases while Mulattieri’s valuation decreases. Next thing you know the obligation is gonna be 50m with Mulattieri valued at $600.

As oppose to what we have thought previously, Mulattieri moves was not for capital gain reasons, as he actually only generated 500k euro gain on this transfer.
Frosinone triggers the buyout at 4.5m then we use the counter option at 5.5m, then later he got transferred at 6m value to Sassuolo.

In addition, Roma got 9.9m from this Fratessi transfer.

total deal 40+million? thats a burden for our financials?

27M€ + Mulatteri+ future bonuses based on UCL appearances and scudetto (4+1M€)

+10% future resale.

Its not a burden . Its a loan, then payable in 2 years plus the addons are for the future.

We need 1 more player in the middle though.

It’s a gamble, but a calculated one.

Universe said:

I know right. With every report it seems like the obligation amount increases while Mulattieri’s valuation decreases. Next thing you know the obligation is gonna be 50m with Mulattieri valued at $600.

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The opposite of Brozo deal

Sassuolo director Giovanni Carnevali confirms Davide Frattesi has signed with Inter:

“It’s done, it’s done, he signed not long ago,” Carnevali said.

The Nerazzurri will complete his signature on an initial loan deal with an obligation to buy for €28m and 22-year-old striker Samuele Mulattieri included in the deal. He has been valued at €8m.

“We are happy, it wasn’t easy. It was a long negotiation, but I think that it ended in the best way for us and for the footballer. He had given preference to the Nerazzurri,” continued Carnevali.

“Frattesi is a young Italian player with different characteristics from other midfielders. I am convinced Inter have made an excellent signing, then it’s up to the coach and the club to valorise him and I am sure they’ll be able to do so because Frattesi is a player with great quality.

“Mulattieri wasn’t tied to Frattesi. It’s a negotiation we had started earlier. We are happy because he’s a young player and we believe in him.”

Carnevali confirmed Sassuolo would buy a new midfielder to replace Frattesi and hit back at Lazio President Claudio Lotito, who had publicly complained about Domenico Berardi’s price tag.
“I saw Lotito yesterday, I hope that if he has to tell me something, he will come to me rather than talk to someone else,” said Carnevali.

Frattesi scored 11 goals in 75 appearances with Sassuolo. He joined the Neroverdi in 2017-18 from Roma but went out on loan to Ascoli, Empoli and Monza before returning to the Mapei Stadium permanently in 2021.

Roma have a 30% clause on his sale, while Inter managed to afford his purchase following Marcelo Brozovic’s move to Al-Nassr.

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Looking to have the final terms confirmed soon, because everyone seems to publish slightly different values of this deal.

Hope this turns out to be great buy. Good to have Brozovic's replacement right away instead of losing him OR to sign him at the end of mercato for 0.5/1million less / paying more.

Mr-Intermilan said:

total deal 40+million? thats a burden for our financials?

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maybe the Oaktree fund this Frattesi deal?