Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

IRR26 said:

Conte is little bit same as Mancio. He will shortly get tired to players he even requested by himself.

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So much this....

Maybe we should propose a trade; lampard (plus his buys) for conte (plus his buys) since conte only wants chelsea players.

Cómi said:

Isn't this why they brought in Marotta? What's the point of this management team if they capitulate to every managerial whim? Ridiculous.

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I feel Marotta overestimated how much he could manage Conte or rather, underestimated just how problematic Conte would be.

I'm nowhere near as anti-Marotta as some of his critics and for the most part I rate the work Marotta has done here. But if you tallied every move he's made at Inter in a list of pros and cons, he's taken a handful of big hits recently.

Conte was his guy. We sacked Spalletti, very expensively, on Marotta's advice and replaced him with his choice, Conte, also very expensively. Now his guy is making all sorts of trouble despite being backed and supported and paid 3x more than his nearest competitor in the league?

Worst of all, when things have been good, when Conte himself has achieved great things, the guy just drops these bombshells and ruins the mood at the drop of a hat.

I mean, for the first time in a decade, we played in the final of a European competition. We finished 2nd in the league with a record amount of points, goals scored and best defence in the league. Everyone is naturally disappointed by not winning the EL, but overwhelmingly, the mood of the club and fanbase is positive and encouraged. The general consensus is that we've made great strides and we're hopeful for the future. Then all of a sudden this shithead turns the room on its head out of nowhere and puts us into RED ALERT DEFCON 1.

Everyone knew Conte was a loose cannon but the universal assumption was that Marotta's "close working relationship" with him would help keep things under control. Marotta was supposed to be the peacemaker and ensure we got the best of what Conte brings while mitigating the worst aspects. In this regard, things have been unraveling fast. The daily transfer rumors grow increasingly worrying and increasingly make it sound like Conte is playing Football Manager 2020 on a save file that is to expire after 1 year. Every passing day seems confirmation that we sacrificed long-term club vision in order to convince Conte to stay by satisfying his insane demands. That is on Marotta and I hope he has a plan to fix it other than "replace Conte with Allegri".

How people are still blaming Conte for this mercato is hilarious. So the objective is to win the scudetto and we have no money to spend......what would you do? Blow all our budget on Tonali? Ok when he becomes good Conte would have already been sacked because he failed his objective. You can’t have both. With the budget we have we can’t get young ready made players to help us achieve that. You want to blame someone, blame Suning whose too busy putting players on the Duomo instead of actually buying them

I think the difference between Zhang and Conte's vision is far greater than Marotta's and Conte's respectively (Tonali/Eriksen vs Vidal and Hakimi). We also appear to be much closer to success than self-destruction and collapse. With the amount Inter have invested, year 2 of the project MUST bring a trophy...the club might not explicitly say that, but every move Conte has made, signals such objectives as scudetto/coppa italia.

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kurt0411 said:

How people are still blaming Conte for this mercato is hilarious. So the objective is to win the scudetto and we have no money to spend......what would you do? Blow all our budget on Tonali? Ok when he becomes good Conte would have already been sacked because he failed his objective. You can’t have both. With the budget we have we can’t get young ready made players to help us achieve that. You want to blame someone, blame Suning whose too busy putting players on the Duomo instead of actually buying them

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Getting Tonali would mean we'd spend 10m on him this season as its loan with option, doesnt seem like wed be "blowing all our budget on Tonali". Unless, of course, our budget is 10m.

brakbrak said:

Getting Tonali would mean we'd spend 10m on him this season as its loan with option, doesnt seem like wed be "blowing all our budget on Tonali". Unless, of course, our budget is 10m.

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I think we don't have 10m now. Latest I've read that Marotta asked for more time about Tonali in order to gather some money.

kurt0411 said:

How people are still blaming Conte for this mercato is hilarious. So the objective is to win the scudetto and we have no money to spend......what would you do? Blow all our budget on Tonali? Ok when he becomes good Conte would have already been sacked because he failed his objective. You can’t have both. With the budget we have we can’t get young ready made players to help us achieve that. You want to blame someone, blame Suning whose too busy putting players on the Duomo instead of actually buying them

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Eriksen,Sanchez, Godin, were not long term acquisitions.

Inter is not Chelsea, Real Madrid, or Man city. It can’t go into the market and get what it wants when it wants it. It’s already crazy how many + 30 age players have been brought in under Conte. Young, Kolarov, Moses, Darmian, Vidal are for Conte- are they not?

Our core is pretty young if you count de vrij, skriniar, barella, sensi, hakimi, Bastoni, Lukaku, Brozovic and Lautaro as our core.

The bar for old, should not be 30, but if it is, none of the players mentioned require any long term commitment.

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Jusef said:

Eriksen,Sanchez, Godin, were not long term acquisitions.

Inter is not Chelsea, Real Madrid, or Man city. It can’t go into the market and get what it wants when it wants it. It’s already crazy how many + 30 age players have been brought in under Conte. Young, Kolarov, Moses, Darmian, Vidal are for Conte- are they not?

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Guess how much money we’ve spent on all the players you’ve just mentioned....25 million with Eriksen counting 20 of those.

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brakbrak said:

Getting Tonali would mean we'd spend 10m on him this season as its loan with option, doesnt seem like wed be "blowing all our budget on Tonali". Unless, of course, our budget is 10m.

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Yeah bud I don’t know if you’ve been keeping up. We literally don’t have any money unless we sell

It's less than 2 weeks to our first match of the season, and there is so much left to do. We need 3 (or 4) incoming transfers. We need 10 (or 100) outgoing transfers. To complicate things, our coach is stubborn as fuck, and our management is broke as fuck.

But in spite of all, this can turn out to be a great mercato, provided some of our cards are dealt right.

Ideal scenario

Sign Partey. Sign Alonso on loan. Get Mandzukic or someone like that for vice Lukaku. Get Vidal, keep Nainggolan.
Darmian and Kolarov replace Godin and Ranocchia.
Find a suitor for Perisic, someone like Spurs or Manu, or even Atletico could be interested.
Ship out Gagliardini and Vecino, on loan, if nothing else.
Find a ditch to bury Dalbert. Terminate contract of Asamoah.

But we could so easily end up in a terrible state.
Terrible scenario

Sign Kante for a ridiculous fee. Add Emerson to that.
Sell Brozovic, for a lowball sum.
Sell Lautaro, sign a bad replacement. Top it off, don't get a vice Lukaku.
Sell Candreva, keep D'Ambrosio as sole backup for RWB.

When does the misery end! What's the last day of the mercato!

I fail to see how selling Candreva is a terrible scenario. If anything, I see it as an absolute win.

Darian Males has come to make the medical for Inter. 19 year old forward/attacking midfielder that played for Luzern. Last year he scored 2 goals in 25 matches.

KevinB said:

I fail to see how selling Candreva is a terrible scenario. If anything, I see it as an absolute win.

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He is our only capable backup for RWB. Unless you count D'Ambrosio for that..

I fail to understand how we got Hakimi in such a pro mode, fast, smart, painless and above all expensive too... and yet we keep doing Inter 2010-2017 the years of massive epic failures. Aka Nagashit aka jonathan aka rocchi aka Mudingayi aka that dude that scored in the derby and got a tatto oh yeah schelloto aka botta aka shit.

100% we got Hakimi without even bothering to tell Conte whats about to go down. Same shit was supposed to happen with Tonali and Kumbulla, and now everything is crazy.

Nobody can say we dont have the funds, just some crazy shit is going at our club and none of us are aware...

IM21 said:

Darian Males has come to make the medical for Inter. 19 year old forward/attacking midfielder that played for Luzern. Last year he scored 2 goals in 25 matches.

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Wonder who we are going to be swapping him with

Jane The Virgin said:

I fail to understand how we got Hakimi in such a pro mode, fast, smart, painless and above all expensive too... and yet we keep doing Inter 2010-2017 the years of massive epic failures. Aka Nagashit aka jonathan aka rocchi aka Mudingayi aka that dude that scored in the derby and got a tatto oh yeah schelloto aka botta aka shit.

100% we got Hakimi without even bothering to tell Conte whats about to go down. Same shit was supposed to happen with Tonali and Kumbulla, and now everything is crazy.

Nobody can say we dont have the funds, just some crazy shit is going at our club and none of us are aware...

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We didn't got Hakimi fast. Ausilio started his work in May already (and some rumor was earlier I believe). It simply didn't got out.

But yeah, paying 4m€ for Males, 19-year-old kid, who we're going to flip to Genoa on loan. How the fuck we have funds for that kind of shit?

Our problem is not cashflow-related. It's fucking China-related.

edit. And like what the fuck, why can't we commit to Tonali who would have been 10m€ loan this year but we buy kids for loan-flipping? Not the same sum but 4m€ is something, almost half of Tonali's this season.

Starting to get pissed at this sell first bullshit. Buy the first team, let the shitters and deadwood rot and understand they are out so should add some pressure to their agents to find new clubs. We are really getting fleeced in the market as we're gonna wait to get the sales done and sales gonna get done at the last week of the mercato because everyone knows that's the time to buy. Last week of the window will be epic all over the Europe, we should be ahead of this curve.

But let's see what happens, maybe we can get lucky too.

According to Sky, Zhang has asked for departures before making any signings. Once a player is gone, then Inter will sign Vidal.

Il Drago said:

According to Sky, Zhang has asked for departures before making any signings. Once a player is gone, then Inter will sign Vidal.

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thats crap, who can guarantee that there are clubs who want to take Vecino, Gags, Nainggolan or even Brozovic/Eriksen until the window closed. Vidal is free anyway, ffs

CafeCordoba said:

We didn't got Hakimi fast. Ausilio started his work in May already (and some rumor was earlier I believe). It simply didn't got out.

But yeah, paying 4m€ for Males, 19-year-old kid, who we're going to flip to Genoa on loan. How the fuck we have funds for that kind of shit?

Our problem is not cashflow-related. It's fucking China-related.

edit. And like what the fuck, why can't we commit to Tonali who would have been 10m€ loan this year but we buy kids for loan-flipping? Not the same sum but 4m€ is something, almost half of Tonali's this season.

Starting to get pissed at this sell first bullshit. Buy the first team, let the shitters and deadwood rot and understand they are out so should add some pressure to their agents to find new clubs. We are really getting fleeced in the market as we're gonna wait to get the sales done and sales gonna get done at the last week of the mercato because everyone knows that's the time to buy. Last week of the window will be epic all over the Europe, we should be ahead of this curve.

But let's see what happens, maybe we can get lucky too.

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I dunno.

I think it's both FFP and cashflow, tbh.

If I remember correctly, we sold Icardi and then pretty quickly got Hakimi - its not hard to map that cashflow. Tonali + salary would have been like 16m cost for the year, which makes him one of our most expensiev players. considering the state of our midfield, I can see why we'd be focused on bringing in someone like vidal who migoht only cost like 6-8m for the year by comparison.

Corona directly impacted our revenues about 30mil, so lets say 35mil just to be safe, we were probably skirtnig close to FFP boundaries anyway (we always are), so thats like another 25mil, that adds up to 60 already. Non-redemption of Perisic, JM, lower Icardi fees, etc, easily takes us to 100m losses. Of course we're still tied in to Pirelli this year and thats gonna pose a challenge.


We'll see where we are at the end of the season, but we really need to offload people like Candreva, JM, Vecino, ideally Gags though there are no real rumours, etc. I suspect Broz/Skriniar would have been available anyway, but it's clear we're desperately trying to find some plusvalenza to normalise our situation


The biggest problem is that we've spent yearas collecting dead wood and not being able to sell them. Fucking loan club.


Also, yeah, it doesnt make sense we sign males, wtf unless we think he's gonna make it. But as I posted elsewhere, I dont trust our youth scouting, it seems very unreliable at best.

Suning should just inject more capital to the club or do something to avoid the current situation. We lost Tonali already, and now we lost Kumbulla. This fucking thing ain't going nowhere if we are waiting for the sales. They're going to happen mostly in the last week of the mercato. Our season has started by then already

About Tonali cost, I simply don't believe we don't have cash for 10m€ loan fee. His salary would have been 2.5m€ net, so less than 5m€ over the season. We signed Kolarov who costs us almost 7m€ over the season. Like said about Males, we can dish 4m€ for our future signings, it doesn't make any sense we supposedly don't have cash.