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ElDuccio

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Yeah but Mou won with 3 diffrent teams the CL. Juve fucked up every year CL with a good team.

If youre argument is right then Guardiola should be the best coach ever or something like that. Of course it's not enough to have 11 superstars. But i think that Juve had always a better team then City. Their team is not worth the money, let's be honest.
Of course im not saying that everyone can do what Allegri made. But for me he is not a top coach and never will be.
 

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Mou does not have 3 cl
 

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oh right, only 2 with porto and inter :yao: still: allegri had good chances but failled every year
 

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this reminds of the old FIF legend that Robben is not even good

until he won that ONE CL

and now nobody says he is a choker

even tho they failed every year after that CL they won




when in reality he was always a great player, at least at Bayern

why put so much importance in CL?
 

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Because i think if you have a team like juve has in this years, you should really consider that they HAVE to win at last 1 CL. But if you watch Juve in CL the last years you can see that they dont seems to be dangerous.

Last year they had luck against Tottenham and lost fucking 3-0 at home against Real. Navas did 2 fails at the second game and Real was taking this match too easy. But if they would play like at the second game it would be much easier for Juve to have a good chance against Real.
I can clearly see that Juve can do more but something is just missing. And this something is a coach, a good coach.
 

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It's a ridiculous new era thing. Just because you see the same teams and players dominate, people are under the impression that these are the only players out there. This has created the legend that Busquets is actually a class player, that Pique is a dominant center back, that Arbeloa was a good right back and while players like Zlatan, Robben and Aguero were not good enough. And these same people, who haven't experienced football in another era, will also go back and say that players like Kaladze and Serginho were great because they were part of CL winning teams while Ronaldo, Toti and Batistuta were not great because they have never won the trophy...

Team performance has correlation with individual player quality, but its signficance varies on the number of quality teammates you have and many other factors.
 

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This has created the legend that Busquets is actually a class player,

No idea what the topic is but this caught my eye. Forget what happened that night and the bias against Barca, Bosquets is a freakin genius (calm and extremely high football IQ) and is easily one of the best CMs out there.
 

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Lmao Busquets the same mold as Kaladze :lol:.

The opinion on this forum is getting more weird everyday.
 

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No idea what the topic is but this caught my eye. Forget what happened that night and the bias against Barca, Bosquets is a freakin genius (calm and extremely high football IQ) and is easily one of the best CMs out there.
Bitchquets is a sickening, spiteful whoreson of a bitch who's biggest quality is acting and deceiving to make up for what he lacks.

The day his punchable shit face retires will be a great day for football and FIFAlona itself.
 

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Busquets not being class :einstein:
 

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Busquetes has been an important part of one of the worlds best teams for many many years now. Him being a cunt doesn’t contradict the fact that he is a top defensive mid. Let’s not be delusional here please
 

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Top DM that can't defend. I'll pass.
 

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Good enough for Barcelona but not for Inter right? :lol:
 

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Good enough for Barcelona but not for Inter right? :lol:

Oleguer, Valdes, Sylvynho, Pedro etc were also "good enough for Barcelona". That's the fun part of having a great team. You can afford to hide some useless turds in there. Busquets is obviously a better player than Oleguer and Valdes but he's not world class or any class. He'd be abused at any other team.
 

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Top DM that can't defend. I'll pass.

??? what

Of course, just after dismantling most of Inter attacks in a game they comfortably won 2-0, he is a DM that can't defend. Sure.

Time for stats from the 1940s to show how Busquets isn't that great of a player.
 

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"Busquets can't defend" [sic]

You're better than this and you know it.
 

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Most overrated player in this generation by far. To the extent that everyone cries how underrated he is. Ridiculous.

Please show me his defensive qualities. Ones that do not include him passing the ball or making himself available for a pass to a defender, simply because that's not defending.
 

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You both are right. He's overrated, but it doesn't mean he's trash. He CAN defend, just not the top DM in the world like he's portrayed. My 50 ruples
 

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You both are right. He's overrated, but it doesn't mean he's trash. He CAN defend, just not the top DM in the world like he's portrayed. My 50 ruples

Sorry mate, but if he's a world class DM as people say he is, then he has to be world class at defending. He's not. Let me put it another way: He sucks at being world class defensively... So he's not a world class dm, let alone a class dm. He's a good midfielder who can cover space, give a nice pass, make life easier for the defence by showing up where he's supposed to. That just makes him a relatively good player.

I've said it last season as well, Brozovic has been doing what Busquets apparently "excels" at, in a far greater fashion, plus he has more responsibilities. Busquets is pretty much like Vecino who doesn't make forward mazy runs but can actually control a football.

Put him at Eibar and Barcelona won't say "I need to sign this guy". Not even Celta Vigo would say that. He's not trash, but he's not underrated in any way. He's overrated and gets way too much love. I never said that he's trash, he's just not great or world class. Spending money to sign Busquets would be insanity.
 

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Wasn't Pirlo a world class DM? Never saw him sliding around.
 
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