Ivan Perišić

Kramerica Industries · Jul 17, 2018

chipschups said:
The key is Champion league football if the lads perform well for sure their price will skyrocketted even more. Lazio can sell bum like Anderson for 38mil and put 100 tag for SMS just because EL same goes with Roma able to sells Allison for more than 70mil due to CL exposure. For sure Icardi, Perisic, brozo, Skriniar and De vrij will doubled their price tag after get CL exposure. There is also exciting talent like politano, karamoh and Lautaro who ready to bloom this season.

Here's the way I see it - at 70M Euro, I'm very tempted to sell Perisic. 29 years old now, inconsistent performance over the course of a season, and you've got an English club with more money than they know what to do with giving you the funds to be able to get Chiesa or Malcom or whichever young prospects (that's plural) you fancy and fancy you in return. It definitely gives this club more finances to play with.

BUT - we've been wandering in the wilderness since 2012. We finally just got back in the Champions League and, frankly, there was a lot of luck involved in that. 4th place only became good enough this past season, and on top of that it took a late comeback in the final game to get there. No apologies, and sometimes you need a little luck to get yourself going in the right direction again, but what I'm getting at is that we haven't really accomplished anything yet. Many teams can get into the Champions League once in a while, but it takes consistent appearances, and consistent success once you're in there, to build up your financial coffers and to build up the prestige of your club in a modern context. Do guys like Malcom and Chiesa excite me? Of course. Tantalizing talents who could push this club forward. At the same time, we're talking about unproven players at the Serie A level (in Malcom's case anyway) and unproven players in the Champions League, on a team already lacking in players with Champions League experience. It creates a risk, selling Perisic that is, of having too much turnover in the starting XI from what we saw in Rome on May 20 and the first matchday in August. And there's zero guarantee that Chiesa or Malcom will ever exceed what Perisic is today; there's a famous NFL coach, can't remember who, that when told about a player's potential responded by saying "your potential is going to get me fired". It's easy to dream on players with the tools, but not all of them figure out how to properly use them.

There's also an argument about what selling Perisic might say to Spalletti about ambition for the club and such but this is very clearly an after-thought I just inserted after writing that whole paragraph above and I'm not going to edit that in or expand on it; I've said enough as it is after the next paragraph below.

If you told me right now that Inter would still be a top-4 lock at the end of 2018/'19 after selling Perisic for 70M Euro, I take it. I think that is outstanding business, frankly. But, very obviously, no one here could guarantee that we're top-4 without Perisic next season, and neither can I. And, for that reason, let me just say that I don't envy Ausilio on this. When you're getting a quote on a player for more than he's worth (IMO), it's tempting to take it. But if we sell Ivan and miss the Champions League? We're setting the whole project back. There will always be more Malcom's and Chiesa's but we need consistent Champions League appearances if we're ever going to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Juve.

Gane · Jul 17, 2018

I just dont see mutd offering more then 40 mil, everything else is stupid media bullshit, and i also dont see us finding good enough replacement for that kind of money if sell him somehow.

Candreva Crosses · Jul 18, 2018

I'm temped to sell whoever the fuck if we have someone to replace him that actually can replace him and not a Candreva player.

El Matador · Jul 18, 2018

crzdcolombian said:
What has Martial done? Don’t they have Rasford and a bunch of young players above him + now Persic?

If it’s a swap I want Pogba don’t mind if we add money. Dude is world class and still young. We can’t let him go to Juve they will become unstoppable

C'mon man that's not even close to being realistic. Pogba will not join us anytime in the near future. As for why Martial, it's simple. He's a really good young player with enormous potential and he will be a great replacement for Perisic for many years. If we get money I don't trust the management to spend it well. We'll end up losing a top winger for nothing. I don't want Man united to finesse us and give us cash and fuckin darmian.

Point is, either they give us Martial or just keep perisic. I don't really care if this is the best chance for us to make big bucks with him. I want to make the champions league consistently for now, if Perisic will give us another great year or two then so be it. But lets not make stupid decisions like we've done so in the past.

K.I. · Jul 18, 2018

Pogba will go back to Juventus if he ever goes back to Italy.

Juventus would want him back and he would prob prefer to go bak there and maybe link up with Ronaldo, its a no brainer, there is nothing we can do to stop that. Unless he wants to come here and try challenging Juve but i seriously doubt that.

Palatiga · Jul 18, 2018

I doubt peri go anywhere though,
The only one who has huge boner for him is mou,
But another LW is the least thing MU need, mou also has a sweet spot for arnautovic since inter day, but he is still rational,
The only club who can splash that amount is chelsea, who got a screw loose on their head
(Who sell curtois for 35 millions and want to buy piguain dor 60? Really? After 100 millions for drinkwater and morata)
And i dont see any interest from them,

CafeCordoba · Jul 18, 2018

OT but Courtois would like to move to Madrid where his kids (and their Madridian mother, Courtois's ex) lives. He has one year left of his contract. That's why his price is limited.

Pajo · Jul 18, 2018

I love the guy and he is important to us, and yeah 60+ mils would be great price, and i'd sell.. BUT, problem is, who we replace him with? Also, we already have quite a few new players, it's never good idea to change more than half of the team. We have new CB, LB, CM, winger and CF. We will most probable have a RB as well. That's already half of the team. By selling him we can damage the atmosphere in the dressing room, and the coherence between the core players.

That being said, imo he is worth about 50-60 mils. But i wouldn't sell him for less than 80 because of the above stated.

infinity · Jul 18, 2018

Pajo said:
I love the guy and he is important to us, and yeah 60+ mils would be great price, and i'd sell.. BUT, problem is, who we replace him with? Also, we already have quite a few new players, it's never good idea to change more than half of the team. We have new CB, LB, CM, winger and CF. We will most probable have a RB as well. That's already half of the team. By selling him we can damage the atmosphere in the dressing room, and the coherence between the core players.

That being said, imo he is worth about 50-60 mils. But i wouldn't sell him for less than 80 because of the above stated.

I think we can tempt one of Yannick Carrasco or Gaitan away from the Chinese league and still probably have money left over. Would they be able to fill Perisic's shoes is another question.

But like you said, "it's never good idea to change more than half of the team". Plus, this is the first Champions League in years. We need to keep the players who have already proven themselves. Maybe next year, we can have the luxury of selling him.

It's a tough decision to be honest. It's a good thing Ausilio is already bald. Else, he'll be pulling his hair out over this one.

Rain · Jul 18, 2018

Kramerica Industries said:
Here's the way I see it - at 70M Euro, I'm very tempted to sell Perisic. 29 years old now, inconsistent performance over the course of a season, and you've got an English club with more money than they know what to do with giving you the funds to be able to get Chiesa or Malcom or whichever young prospects (that's plural) you fancy and fancy you in return. It definitely gives this club more finances to play with.

BUT - we've been wandering in the wilderness since 2012. We finally just got back in the Champions League and, frankly, there was a lot of luck involved in that. 4th place only became good enough this past season, and on top of that it took a late comeback in the final game to get there. No apologies, and sometimes you need a little luck to get yourself going in the right direction again, but what I'm getting at is that we haven't really accomplished anything yet. Many teams can get into the Champions League once in a while, but it takes consistent appearances, and consistent success once you're in there, to build up your financial coffers and to build up the prestige of your club in a modern context. Do guys like Malcom and Chiesa excite me? Of course. Tantalizing talents who could push this club forward. At the same time, we're talking about unproven players at the Serie A level (in Malcom's case anyway) and unproven players in the Champions League, on a team already lacking in players with Champions League experience. It creates a risk, selling Perisic that is, of having too much turnover in the starting XI from what we saw in Rome on May 20 and the first matchday in August. And there's zero guarantee that Chiesa or Malcom will ever exceed what Perisic is today; there's a famous NFL coach, can't remember who, that when told about a player's potential responded by saying "your potential is going to get me fired". It's easy to dream on players with the tools, but not all of them figure out how to properly use them.

There's also an argument about what selling Perisic might say to Spalletti about ambition for the club and such but this is very clearly an after-thought I just inserted after writing that whole paragraph above and I'm not going to edit that in or expand on it; I've said enough as it is after the next paragraph below.

If you told me right now that Inter would still be a top-4 lock at the end of 2018/'19 after selling Perisic for 70M Euro, I take it. I think that is outstanding business, frankly. But, very obviously, no one here could guarantee that we're top-4 without Perisic next season, and neither can I. And, for that reason, let me just say that I don't envy Ausilio on this. When you're getting a quote on a player for more than he's worth (IMO), it's tempting to take it. But if we sell Ivan and miss the Champions League? We're setting the whole project back. There will always be more Malcom's and Chiesa's but we need consistent Champions League appearances if we're ever going to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Juve.

Superb post mate, congrats! You should definitely write here more often.

Kramerica Industries · Jul 18, 2018

Rain said:
Superb post mate, congrats! You should definitely write here more often.

There are topics here that other board members have a much greater understanding of than I do, and on those occasions I'm more than happy to sit back, read, and learn. I post either when I feel I have something to contribute...or when I want to get some cheap thank-whoring. One or the other, anyway.

Appreciate the compliment, good sir.

Devious · Jul 18, 2018

You've learned well from me Kramerica, I'm proud of you :thumbsup:

Anubis · Jul 19, 2018

Pajo said:
I love the guy and he is important to us, and yeah 60+ mils would be great price, and i'd sell.. BUT, problem is, who we replace him with? Also, we already have quite a few new players, it's never good idea to change more than half of the team. We have new CB, LB, CM, winger and CF. We will most probable have a RB as well. That's already half of the team. By selling him we can damage the atmosphere in the dressing room, and the coherence between the core players.

That being said, imo he is worth about 50-60 mils. But i wouldn't sell him for less than 80 because of the above stated.

I agree. If we sell, who are we replacing him with? Furthermore, we improved overall with our current acquisitions. Why take a step back? And not all the new additions are young. Someone like Ninja who's no longer in his 20's. Why bring a guy like that in if you're going to sell your 2nd best player? Unless they have a no doubt equal or better replacement, I hope we keep him.

JJM · Jul 19, 2018

only loser clubs sell their best players...like Roma and then replace them with kids...Chiesa and Malcom together are not bettter than Perisic ffs...get your shit together FIF

ED 8661 · Jul 19, 2018

Palatiga said:
Sell perisic , buy kingsley coman,
Use the rest of money as down payment for chiesa
You dont need another winger for 10 years

Easier said than done

Wallace · Jul 19, 2018

No one is going to offer 80 mil for Perisic, just forget it.

Unless Mourinho hasn't learned anything from his past mistakes. Judging from his comment he probably coincidentally watched the best games Perisic put together when he didn't go AWOL.

I honestly don't see it happening.

Boring rumors, make up something more realistic please.

Bluenine · Jul 19, 2018

Apparently Perisic outran everyone in the World Cup. He ran 73 km, which was the highest for any player. :notbad:

Provenzano · Jul 19, 2018

Wobblz · Jul 19, 2018

Thank fuck.

Provenzano · Jul 19, 2018

Little fake news

:troll:

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