Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

We need a CB, another midfielder and a no.10. Ozil and Torriera would be perfect and we can do much better than luring Mangala.

brehme1989 said:

So buying players for over 100m is the right thing to do if we'd ask you to be part of our mercato team? With that kind of money you could buy Verratti, Sanchez, James Rodriguez, de Bruyne... not freaking Alli. If Eriksen on the other hand is available for around 50m I'd be all for it, or Alderweireld for a normal amount in this crazy time where 20m is 'cheap'.

Yet the alternative of not overpaying for EPL English players is to buy Serie B players, right.... My fault for paying attention to garbage troll posts.

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If the market sees the young players with high potential as 100mil players, then so be it.

brehme1989 said:

So buying players for over 100m is the right thing to do if we'd ask you to be part of our mercato team? With that kind of money you could buy Verratti, Sanchez, James Rodriguez, de Bruyne... not freaking Alli. If Eriksen on the other hand is available for around 50m I'd be all for it, or Alderweireld for a normal amount in this crazy time where 20m is 'cheap'.

Yet the alternative of not overpaying for EPL English players is to buy Serie B players, right.... My fault for paying attention to garbage troll posts.

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Sanchez will be available on a free, no need to spend 100m on him. Ditto Ozil, Ghoulam, De Vrij, etc. Which does not mean we will get them, but these are the minimum level of players we need to target.

I understand what you are trying to say, we must not overpay. Its a fair view. But my problem with our track record with that approach is that for every Skriniar we end up with throwing away 80m on a Mario and Gabigol. Inter are at a stage where we could focus our budget on few players who are quality, rather than many with potential. I rather Inter overpay 50m to get a Walker, than spend the same amount on getting 2 players like Dalbert and Cancelo.

We don't know what budget constraints we will have next summer. However assuming we qualify for CL and have a good budget (150m+), I much rather Inter spend it on 2-3 players and only buy top quality. 1 Nainggolan can transform our team far more than 2-3 Vecinos. Yes, we will not have depth to do well in all competitions, but depth is something that should ideally be built over 1-2 years.

If we are clever, we should spend most of the 150-200m on 2 top players who not only transform our team but will be good for marketing purposes too, and then look for some quality free deals for the other 1-2 players we may need. Quality attracts quality, if Inter spend big on a couple of top players (say Eriksen or Vidal or Nainggolan) then it will be easier to convince another top player (say Sanchez or Ghoulam) to join on a free. Build the team up with quality, slowly but surely.

IlGiardiniere said:

Spalletti will not play a 433. Extremely unlikely. He has explained in depth many times why his whole career he has developed a 4231 as his main tactic, and won't easily start over at this point. Why would he, after all?

That is why Brozovic and Mario struggle to find space, while he would have very much liked to keep Kondogbia (who plays best in a 4231.

The player Spalletti needs is an energetic midfielder with good shooting skills and big lungs to play in his atypical trequartista role, where he always adapted player who previously had been defensive midfielders or central midfielders. That's the player we lack at the moment, and why we might try to loan Ramires from China.

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I don't want to get into technical nitpicking over 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 because the reality is, it's about player characteristics in the roles. At Roma last 1.5 years he had them, and for all the seasons in Zenit and for the seasons before with Roma, his system works really well when he has 3 in the middle with 1 DM-like player, 1 box-to-box CM player who can be a little defensive, and 1 box-to-box CM who can be a little more attacking.

If you want to go into semantics and call his last Roma 4-2-3-1, go ahead. Reality is, it played more like 4-3-3 because De Rossi took DM, Strootman played CM-DM, and nainggolan played CM-AM. Go back to Zenit and he had Witsel as pure DM player. Before Witsel, it was Denisov as pure DM and back then they were calling it 4-1-4-1 formation (again, semantics). So really, he always had a pure DM player, and a really good one at that.

The reality at this Inter is, we don't have a DM like player. This is causing all the unbalancing and before getting someone attacking, we really need to lock down the defensive side of the midfield. I think people maybe surprised if we do get a quality pure DM, how much that will unleash Vecino, Gags, Brozo, Valero etc... offensively.

Speaking of tottenham players, I really want wanyama. Ideal pure DM for us. I like william carvalho too, but he is overpriced.

Bluenine, I agree in general and I've been saying the same during the summer window.

But Alli at 100m is insane. That's what Real can afford. And they can afford to sit him on the bench when they realize he's not a 100m player, whereas we cannot. We need that 100m on someone like Sanchez who you know can perform in Serie A and Europe. I know he's free, but let's say then it's a de Bruyne or Hazard type of transfer that could go for so much. There's also salaries to consider.

Ideally we have to get a deal on Pastore if he's available in January (loan + purchase) and convince Alexis that we're here to make noise. But we also need to prove that we'll be in CL the next season.

We go into the transfer window in 1st or 2nd place way easier to convince top talent to come here.

Sadly Sanchez will go to Man City/United for insanely insane wages for free. Ozil to Barca it looks like

I think Hazard is over Rated. For 100 million I want a player as good as Cristiano Ronaldo or Zidane when they went to Real. No one else is worth it or has been worth it that has ever been available. Only other player worth that went for 222 fking million!!

crzdcolombian said:

We go into the transfer window in 1st or 2nd place way easier to convince top talent to come here.

Sadly Sanchez will go to Man City/United for insanely insane wages for free. Ozil to Barca it looks like

I think Hazard is over Rated. For 100 million I want a player as good as Cristiano Ronaldo or Zidane when they went to Real. No one else is worth it or has been worth it that has ever been available. Only other player worth that went for 222 fking million!!

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But we have to buy Eric Dier, Harry Kane and Dele Alli for 270m euros otherwise we lack ambition.

brehme1989 said:

But we have to buy Eric Dier, Harry Kane and Dele Alli for 270m euros otherwise we lack ambition.

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Pass on all of them. Unless someone gives us 200 million for Icardi. Kane isn’t 1/10th the striker Icardi is

crzdcolombian said:

Pass on all of them. Unless someone gives us 200 million for Icardi. Kane isn’t 1/10th the striker Icardi is

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Shot fired.

Popcorn anyone?

Mhmm this will be fun

crzdcolombian said:

Pass on all of them. Unless someone gives us 200 million for Icardi. Kane isn’t 1/10th the striker Icardi is

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Jesus fucking christ

crzdcolombian said:

Pass on all of them. Unless someone gives us 200 million for Icardi. Kane isn’t 1/10th the striker Icardi is

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If Neymar was valued at 220m Icardi should be worth at least 250m.

crzdcolombian said:

Pass on all of them. Unless someone gives us 200 million for Icardi. Kane isn’t 1/10th the striker Icardi is

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kane is good, alli is way too hyped he literally does nothing all game and he bitches to the ref so much, he is good player but not nearly as good as people make him out to be.

nerazzurri4life said:

If you want to go into semantics and call his last Roma 4-2-3-1, go ahead. Reality is, it played more like 4-3-3 because De Rossi took DM, Strootman played CM-DM, and nainggolan played CM-AM. Go back to Zenit and he had Witsel as pure DM player. Before Witsel, it was Denisov as pure DM and back then they were calling it 4-1-4-1 formation (again, semantics). So really, he always had a pure DM player, and a really good one at that.

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I don't, but Spalletti does. 433 is my favourite tactic and William Carvalho would have been my first signing.

There are multiple extensive interviews during which Spalletti explained that his first choice will always be 4231 vs 433 because he wants to have an advanced man already occupying the space where the first passage out of the opponent's defense will take place, so that he can apply crazy pressing without one of the mezze-ali needing to come out of the midfield (this is also why he would play a player like Nainggolan in that position, instead of the obvious choice of Pjanic. Way before that, he would play Perrotta when he had Totti who at the time was the very definition of a trequartista). What you lose is an anchor man in front of your defense, which requires one of the two external midfielders (in our case Perisic or Candreva) returning back more in order to help the two central midfielders closing down the opponents (especially in uncovered-ball situations, which are the most obvious problem for 4231 defending).

4231 and 433 are quite different tactics. It seems like only one man is the difference, but in reality the roles (and hence the ideal characteristics) of all the players from midfield up are fundamentally different. That's why Kondogbia sucks in a 3-men midfield while Mario or Brozovic struggle in a 2-men one.

It's true. Icardi is very underrated while Kane is overrated.

crzdcolombian said:

Pass on all of them. Unless someone gives us 200 million for Icardi. Kane isn’t 1/10th the striker Icardi is

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Thats a bit unfair. Kane is a different type of a striker to Icardi, he is more like a Higuain. Kane has a better all around game, and helps more with the build up. Icardi is possibly the most lethal finisher on the planet, specially with his head. They both are young (24) and both score by the bucketloads. Icardi has 84 goals (138 Serie A games) for Inter, and Kane has 86 goals (123 EPL games) for Spurs.

I would say both are pretty much at par. For a team with good wingers, Icardi will be a better option. So for Inter I will always prefer Icardi. For a team which likes to slow build its goals, Kane will be a better option.

However a traditional CF like Icardi is a dying breed as the tactics have moved on in the modern game. Which is why I can understand why Kane will probably demand a bigger transfer fee right now. But we all have seen Icardi evolve his game of late, he is trying to play a bigger role in build up, and I have no doubt he will soon become an even better modern striker.

Bluenine said:

Thats a bit naive. Kane is a different type of a striker to Icardi, he is more like a Higuain.

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Just proved his point. Icardi is 10x the player Higuain is.

If I had to compare Icardi to someone on gun point or smth...I'd say he is like Crespo...on steroids of course

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JJM said:

If I had to compare Icardi to someone on gun point or smth...I'd say he is like Crespo...on steroids of course

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Crespo had much better ball skills and occasionally created his own goals. Icardi is more similar to Batistuta, minus the explosiveness & strength but I dare say he's a better and more composed finisher. In the perfect team in this era, at a league that doesn't put 4 or 5 defenders on you, he should be scoring at least 50 a year.

Maybe crzd said nothing wrong. Kane might not be the striker Icardi is.. as in, a scorer of goals.

In most things, Kane does seem a better player. No need for this debate.