Wesley Sneijder

Half of the people here must not be working in the real world.

That reduction is over 20% of his original wage, anyone with some sanity would slam the table and leaves.
Its an insult to an employee and his ability.

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Man will never be same with wife besides him,, kay:

vasilios said:

I think the fact that we froze him out of the squad until he signed a new contract (which Branca himself admitted was the case) caused far more of a fuss than any tweets, anything his wife said, or any other such trivial nonsense. Not to mention the tweets only became a big deal when Inter banned him and fined him for telling the truth that he wasn't injured at all. Did people expect him to stay silent and play along with the charade that he was still injured? Inter handled the situation about as poorly as they possibly could have.

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Like the player in your avatar, you know what it's like when you're made of glass.

Couldn't risk putting him on the market and then injured a week later. We'd have him on our books still earning shitloads.

To be fair Wesley had been playing horribly after our treble season so technically he wasn't playing to the standard we were expecting him to play for the wage he got so a 20% reduction would be appropriate if we were living in a fantasy world where players and staff acknowledged their shortcomings and accepted less until they improved.....madness!

I think that we are pretty much all in agreement that even with Wesleys diva rants an bitching our management's handling of the Wesley and JC situation was disgustingly pathetic and enough alone to embarass us and our club.

Scottish_one said:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying our management handled this well. some planning and a far less clumsy approach could have saved us all a lot of grief but i do think they were right to offer Him a different contract and as a result of his decision, get rid of him.

I am also not saying that Wes is at fault for not acceptting, thats fine and understandable but he must have known if he wanted to stay, that was the only way it was going to happen. yet all the fuss after the rejection (not helped at all by our management) but Wes is certainly not the the victim he wants to be seen as

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I'm not saying it either, but acting like Sneijder's is fault free is ridiculous. When push came to shove Ronaldo and Recoba did lower their wages when the club needed it, Sneijder did not.

And i've said tons of times, i will say it again - both sides in that issue were acting like spoiled brats!

Jeez. The issue is not putting Wes up for sale. The issue is blackmailing players telling them to sign or don't play.

If Inter didn't do that piece, there would be nothing. It would simply be Inter offered reduced wages, player declined, Inter put him up for sale and sold him. END OF STORY.

And in the end, Sneijder and Moratti belong to LGI but Branca doesn't. So we know who's the winner.

rockball said:

And in the end, Sneijder and Moratti belong to LGI but Branca doesn't. So we know who's the winner.

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On LGI there's usually players who left Inter or retired, just in case you don't know. Moratti is well, the owner of the club, you can Google that just to make sure. And Branca is a staff member who can't really make an impact in our team.

vasilios said:

Inter & Sneijder agreed on a contract, Inter want to change that contract so that it suits them, Sneijder doesn't bend over for them, and it's Sneijder who's ungrateful, selfish, blah blah blah. Nonsense. It's a business. If people's expectations are for players to overlook the business side of things, then you simply have unrealistic expectations. How many of JZ/Cambiasso/JC/Samuel/Chivu/Stankovic/etc have agreed to wage reductions on existing contracts? Hint: it's a very small number. Hell, how many players around Italy, or Europe for that matter have done it recently? Not many.

People don't like Sneijder's attitude (probably on and off the pitch) and that's fine, but criticizing him for not signing a new contract that wasn't in his best interests is asinine. JC told management to take their contract ultimatum and shove it as well, but doesn't receive the criticism because he handled it in a classier manner. However at the end of the day, his decision was the same.

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Hold on there... it's not just business. We're not into advertising and discussing slots for 30 second commercial sales on a big tv network. First and foremost Branca says it clearly: We got a player who failed at Real and wasn't considered part of the project anymore. What did Wesley win there? La liga? What did he win at Inter? Serie A, Champions League, Club Worldcup, Coppa Italia (twice). Point made.
Secondly, Branca says that he requested a meeting, to discuss. Knowing Wesley's attitude - pop corn worthy on/off pitch as you may have noticed - it's no surprise to us than he didn't even sit down for that meeting, as Branca says. But the suprise certainly comes out in the management staff. Who the fuck is Wesley Sneijder to refuse meetings from the management? Hence, fuck you Wesly, stay for your contract and watch from the stands.
Truth is we made him win everything there was to win, and, always according to Branca, this new contract would've been temporarily low to balance the books; he would've "earned" more, with an eventual increase from the original contract. And then there is this "best interest of Sneijder" you speak off. Players of the team, have in the past and will continue to take pay cuts if the club is having problems because first they love the team and don't consider it just business, and secondly because they know that Inter is not pathetic to do that without making sure in the end the player is happy too. Sneijder just heard a whistle from the management and raised his fucking tail in anger, ignoring Branca, who in my opinion has every right, including the club directors Moratti and co, to react that way, because you know why? When we won, he was under contract, it was expected of him to perform to his best for earning millions. Regardless, when we did win, we raised his contract! Now that we were loosing, this bitch can't even accept to sit down and have a meeting to discuss. Fuck him, I regret voting him into LGI. Eto'o was sold too, but when we hear from him, there is only good words and utmost respect. He even called Moratti a second father. And that, my friend and fellow inter supporter, is the difference between the commercial 30 second americanized version of business vs Inter and the meaning of a team and family.

There are 2 types of players basically: those who say they love the club, kiss the badge, seem loyal and at the first opportunity or difficulty they run away. And those who don't really have to kiss a badge or do anything in particular for you to say that they love the club. They just do, and would receive a pay cut and would give 100% every time on the pitch.

Same as fans tbh. I don't have to have Inter written on my forehead, just so everybody knows where my heart is.

Nice rant, but football is a business whether you like it or not. That doesn't preclude players from loving the team, being attached to the club or anything like that. They're not mutually exclusive.

And as far as this notion that that he would have earned more money with the proposed contract, please be serious. That's clearly nonsense. If the contract was in his best interests, he would have signed it. It wasn't, it was in the club's best interests. If you believe that Sneijder rejected a contract that was in his best interest just to be a bitch, then be my guest. But, I guess he's a millionaire and won trophies here, so he should sign whatever proposal we put in front of him, no questions asked.

And please list all our current players that have taken paycuts on existing contracts in these times of financial hardship Inter is in. I'd love to see it.

And yes, we raised his contract after the treble. Why do you think that is? Simply because he 'deserved' it? Out of the kindness of our hearts. You can't be that naive. We raised his contract in order to tie him to the club until 2015 and fend off interest from other teams (which, ironically, worked quite well). Hate his attitude and performances all you want, but hating him for not giving money back to the club is laughable. Milito, Deku, Cuchu, etc. all got pay bumps after the treble and all their performances fell off drastically as well. Being the true servants of the club that they are, I'm sure they've been tearing up those paychecks instead of cashing them in.

oh, we're still talking about this?

It's not about what I like or don't. By a politically correct logic, eventually everything can be assumed a business. We operate on money, so it's always safe to say business this business that. Marriage is a business too, learning in school is a business, operating this forum business, everything from the grass the players step on, to your own self - you're business as well to someone, if most. But to simply brush it off like that is to miss the point, however unimportant it may be. What if Moratti just drops everything to the new guy that wants to buy, business right? What if Faccheti went on to play for a team who offered him more money, what if Zanetti did the same etc etc. The concept of "business" is there alright, it's everywhere, but if it were the primary thing that held together this game, we'd have no teams, no stadiums, no names, just statistics as in Team 40mill, Coach 35 mill, Player #25 mill. There is no history on "business". I'd love to be pragmatic and rational by modern definitions on a forum but really, is it that naive to dislike a player of the team you support for no business intentions or gain, that went with a businessman attitude on his way out?

And you have an idea of the players that have taken cuts or made sacrifices. If you don't, look it up yourself since you'd love to see. I'm not writing you a list.

Lastly, we did not raise his contract to tie him to the club. There were no offers for him, according to Branca.

Armes said:

It's not about what I like or don't. By a politically correct logic, eventually everything can be assumed a business. We operate on money, so it's always safe to say business this business that. Marriage is a business too, learning in school is a business, operating this forum business, everything from the grass the players step on, to your own self - you're business as well to someone, if most. But to simply brush it off like that is to miss the point, however unimportant it may be. What if Moratti just drops everything to the new guy that wants to buy, business right? What if Faccheti went on to play for a team who offered him more money, what if Zanetti did the same etc etc. The concept of "business" is there alright, it's everywhere, but if it were the primary thing that held together this game, we'd have no teams, no stadiums, no names, just statistics as in Team 40mill, Coach 35 mill, Player #25 mill. There is no history on "business". I'd love to be pragmatic and rational by modern definitions on a forum but really, is it that naive to dislike a player of the team you support for no business intentions or gain, that went with a businessman attitude on his way out?

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What in the world are you on about?

And Moratti? Facchetti? Zanetti? Please try and have some perspective. Sneijder had been here for 2 years. JC had been here 3 times as long and refused management wage cut ultimatum, so I assume you view him in an even worse light, no? Of course not. Sneijder doesn't have the class that JC had and he likes attention. He behaved in a certain way and said some things you didn't appreciate and now you're clearly bitter about it, along with many others.

Armes said:

And you have an idea of the players that have taken cuts or made sacrifices. If you don't, look it up yourself since you'd love to see. I'm not writing you a list.

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Wrong, the correct answer is zero. Zero of our current players in these dark and dire times have lowered their contracts. Not Zanetti, not Cambiasso, not Stankovic, not Milito, not anyone. Cambiasso made some statement a little while back indicating he'd be willing to do something along those lines, let's see if he puts his money where his mouth is, or if he's just as selfish as Sneijder.

Armes said:

Lastly, we did not raise his contract to tie him to the club. There were no offers for him, according to Branca.

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Naive indeed.

Indeed, indeed.

vasilios said:

And please list all our current players that have taken paycuts on existing contracts in these times of financial hardship Inter is in. I'd love to see it.

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All Sneijder haters, please respond to this. I don't see Milito or Zanetti in their injured having salaries reduced, or Cambiasso in his total uselessness getting his salary reduced.

PS - out of context since his contract expired, but what's Samuel's wages for coming season?

Haven't seen any figures for Samuel. Was on 2mil last year, I'd guess somewhere around 1.5mil for next year.

Alvaro Recoba took (accepted) close to 50% pay cut 2 years into a 5 year contract at 27 years of age. Fact.

Sneijder played 1 great season and the rest of his time was as constructive as Quaresma.

Cambiasso with almost 2/3rds the salary of Sneijder has been more useful to the team post treble than Sneijder. Despite results and state of affairs with the team /managers.

Edit:Reports that Cambiasso will be asked to reduce his wages, time will tell if he honours this or that his influence is indeed prominent.

Van Gaal slams his fitness as he strips him of the captaincy.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/462/net.../van-gaal-slams-sneijder-fitness?ICID=HP_TS_4