Yann Bisseck

[Adriano@10]

What means pretty reckless. This happens in the matter of seconds, and his decision was based on instincts. He was very close to hear the ball clear. It happens

Terrible timing on the jump and he has both hands up high... I m not saying it cant happen but it was a mistake.....

Again he had a good game but he fucked up twice imho

 

[varmin]

Terrible timing on the jump and he has both hands up high... I m not saying it cant happen but it was a mistake.....

Again he had a good game but he fucked up twice imho

His hands were wide, because he used them to get a momentum and head the ball. As I said it's an instinct reaction cuz the ball was in his range. He wasn't aware that an Inter player is behind him, which could be considered as a mistake, but I've seen much worse penalties from inter players. For instance, Vidal. That's was reckless. Bisseck was just unlucky imo.
Sommer's mistake in the first goal was bigger for me.

 

[thatdude]

His hands were wide, because he used them to get a momentum and head the ball. As I said it's an instinct reaction cuz the ball was in his range. He wasn't aware that an Inter player is behind him, which could be considered as a mistake, but I've seen much worse penalties from inter players. For instance, Vidal. That's was reckless. Bisseck was just unlucky imo.
Sommer's mistake in the first goal was bigger for me.

My thing is his judging on aerial balls has been a worry for me for a while. I can’t quote my posts to right now but if you go back in this thread you’ll see me criticizing him for it last season. Before it cost us any goals.

There’s just some things he needs to work on. Defending against tricky dribblers as well. Potential is still sky high though. He’s young for a center back.

 

[Irequis]

The handball incident was purely unlucky. It was a routine ball clear but somehow cocked up. Even a defender of Pavard's calibre could screw up a simple clearance (Atleti game). The ball-watching at the early minutes was more worrying than the handball, but aside from those, we already have a rough diamond in our hand.

 

[Gaindé]

My thing is his judging on aerial balls has been a worry for me for a while. I can’t quote my posts to right now but if you go back in this thread you’ll see me criticizing him for it last season. Before it cost us any goals.

There’s just some things he needs to work on. Defending against tricky dribblers as well. Potential is still sky high though. He’s young for a center back.

Due to his size defending against tricky dribblers will always be a problem, he needs to be a little bit more vicious to deal with those.

 

[Fitzy]

I think the handball had a lot to do with him being exhausted.

I like the idea of trying him at RWB at some stage.

 

[Alex de Large]

He is becoming every day better. I would like to see a line with Bissek-Pavard-Bastoni or Carlos against smaller teams who will barely attack us

 

[Nyall]

Dude is good enough to start and have a great game vs City away.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Impressive no doubt he will have caught the eye of many.

 

[Raul Duke]

Our ability to play out from the back fell off a cliff when he came off.

 

[Irequis]

Bisseck shows Interista and Asllani how a youngster should work. He doesn't make a fuss sitting on the bench. Whenever he is given a rare opportunity to show up, he does a good job even in an away game against City.
I don't have anything against Asllani, I also root for him to succeed our aging midfielder. However, Bisseck manages to replace a player of Pavard calibre without missing a beat while we feel Asllani still cannot replace our starters seamlessly. Both defenders and midfielder sectors have a fierce competition and Asllani is given more chances than Bisseck (CMIIW). Nevertheless, the latter is seemingly more ready to take the starting spot.

 

[Fitzy]

From an untrusted player eating bench to starting against City away a year later. He's done well.

 

[PHM1605]

Bisseck shows Interista and Asllani how a youngster should work. He doesn't make a fuss sitting on the bench. Whenever he is given a rare opportunity to show up, he does a good job even in an away game against City.
I don't have anything against Asllani, I also root for him to succeed our aging midfielder. However, Bisseck manages to replace a player of Pavard calibre without missing a beat while we feel Asllani still cannot replace our starters seamlessly. Both defenders and midfielder sectors have a fierce competition and Asllani is given more chances than Bisseck (CMIIW). Nevertheless, the latter is seemingly more ready to take the starting spot.

Asllani doesn't make a fuss sitting on the bench either. He is receiving cheap-ass salary, signs extension without dramas
He is just not at the level to properly replace any of our midfielders yet. While, despite worse background, Bisseck has many things superior to Pavard.
Just need more time.

 

[Fapuccino]

Bisseck shows Interista and Asllani how a youngster should work. He doesn't make a fuss sitting on the bench. Whenever he is given a rare opportunity to show up, he does a good job even in an away game against City.
I don't have anything against Asllani, I also root for him to succeed our aging midfielder. However, Bisseck manages to replace a player of Pavard calibre without missing a beat while we feel Asllani still cannot replace our starters seamlessly. Both defenders and midfielder sectors have a fierce competition and Asllani is given more chances than Bisseck (CMIIW). Nevertheless, the latter is seemingly more ready to take the starting spot.

How many world class 22 year old DLPs are there? Those positions not really comparable. DLPs have to organize the entire team.

What I like about Bisseck is his interpretation of the CB role. He's almost like a halfway between a CB and a FB. Like a mezzala but on a back 3. Him driving forward really gives a boost to our attack as well.

 

[wera]

Darmian + Bisseck is a really good combo because it feels like they don't have fixed positions

 

[brehme1989]

How many world class 22 year old DLPs are there? Those positions not really comparable. DLPs have to organize the entire team.

Doesn't really need to be world class. Just to be able to perform without looking out of place.

There's like 30+ players in La Liga and 10+ in Serie A under 23 that could be that. And dozens all over Europe. Asllani isn't one of those.

 

[Fapuccino]

Doesn't really need to be world class. Just to be able to perform without looking out of place.

There's like 30+ players in La Liga and 10+ in Serie A under 23 that could be that. And dozens all over Europe. Asllani isn't one of those.

There aren't even 30 proper DLPs in La Liga altogether, but let's not derail this thread.

 

[YoramG]

Man, what a find. He probably added 10/15m to his asking price last night.

 

[brehme1989]

There aren't even 30 proper DLPs in La Liga altogether, but let's not derail this thread.

What do you mean "proper"?
You're looking at traits, not current role. Neither Brozovic (more regista than DLP), then Hakan, you look at Modric. None of these were fielded as DLP before becoming elite in that position. But you could see their traits translating and you can see that in action from the get go. It doesn't look alien to them.

Real Sociedad alone has 4 of those players (Zubimendi and Merino as "seniors" and from u23 there is Turrientes and Marin). Those are high quality for the most part, but there are "average" ones that could still work. I mean Joan Gonzalez of Lecce could do a better job than Asllani at the DLP role.

But ok Asllani is our kid and we're rooting for him. He has his uses but the issue starts when it's becoming a liability in the way we play, offensively and defensively. With Bisseck you hardly notice that it's a kid there that needs "development".

 

[Il Drago]

Guys come on. Don't make another thread about Asllani. If you want to have this debate you can continue the discussion on his thread.