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I agree. And I would say it's not purely on Ancelotti but the recruitment policy. Mbappe and Vini simply doesn't seem to work together. Mbappe is not a lone CF, period. He's left-flanked forward/winger, just like Vinicius. Bellingham is a ghost now that he's not scoring goals (0 goals this season, fucking 100m player :lol:). I think it's the dynamics up front, of the lack of them hurts Bellingham too.

Catastrophic recruitment policy and not even really just the Mbappé/Vini dynamics. They went into this season with two healthy center backs. That's it. Their #3 center back is their normal #6 (who's having a HORRIBLE season and is now injured). Their #4 center back is chronically injured and rarely plays because injuries have robbed him of all his skill. Alaba's had a super long rehab process from a torn ACL, he's still not expected back anytime soon, and he'd been in decline the last two seasons before tearing his ACL.

Pérez really thought that Madrid could survive this season with their center back situation being that. They had one summer signing planned, failed to make it (low balled the fuck out of Lille for Leny Yoro) and that was it. They actively chose against trying to make any other signings for that position.

They lost their midfield maestro in Kroos to retirement. Did nothing to replace his profile or something close to it. Lost their 18-goal scoring striker, replaced his goals with Mbappé but did nothing to replace his profile (Thierry Henry did a breakdown yesterday of Mbappé not making runs that a #9 should, maybe because he's not a #9, those runs aren't instinctive to him, and they don't make the best use of his skills often times since a lot of those runs are designed with the aerial game in mind and he's not an aerial player). I don't feel like you bet against Mbappé's talent and eventually making good of it, but it reminds me of Barcelona signing Griezmann a few years ago when they still had Messi; they like to operate in the same areas, they did more to get in each other's way than complement each other.

It was just a recipe for disaster.

I said plenty of good things about Real Madrid last year. The outcome of their season didn't surprise me, there was a lot to like about what they were doing, how the pieces fit, mixed together with some of their usual Champions League black magic. But I said quite a few times during the summer that they had about the worst transfer window you could have when your window includes signing Kylian Mbappé. That defensive situation just gave them no chance to reach expectations.
 

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If they finish outside top 8 they need to win the playoff to make it to top 16.
I know that. I thought he said this will help Milan to be in top 24. Where they will be regardless. Probably in top 8 too when you see the schedule. Even if they lost yesterday realistic projection is 16 points.


I would rather have Real struggling to be in top 8 than Milan. Unless you think Milan is serious opponent in Serie A. Which I don't. I'm not scared of them one second regardless of last result in the derby.
 
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Villa are losing to Brugge
 

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Villa are losing to Brugge

Remember the Arsenal/Bayern game last year where the same kind of would-be penalty happened and the referee basically said "I don't want silly stuff like that affecting these games"? Former Bundesliga referee Manuel Gräfe was unimpressed.


Referee in today's game? Tobias Stieler, Bundesliga referee.

They haven't forgotten.
 

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Great result in Bruges.

Bologna and RBS are only teams without a single goal scored.
 

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5 mins from where?
 

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Bologna and RBS are only teams without a single goal scored.
Salzburg scored 3. Bologna have next chance vs Lille at home.


We are together with Atalanta the only teams without goals conceded.

We have so many results in our favor in this round.
 
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Salzburg scored 3. Bologna have next chance vs Lille at home.


We are together with Atalanta the only teams without goals conceded.

We have so many results in out favor in this round.
Ironically it came from the most offensive coaches we know.
 

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Sturm in CL. They also played against 3 teams currently in top 7. Unlucky.
 

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Shame that Bologna are so bad in the CL. Italiano didn't turn out as people hoped. Palladino exposes him at Viola so far too.
 

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Shame that Bologna are so bad in the CL. Italiano didn't turn out as people hoped. Palladino exposes him at Viola so far too.
Palladino got more money spent than earned through transfers, while Italiano netted a plus every season and yet managed to be competitive. Bologna is not made for CL, but they do their homework in Serie A as far even while losing their start (Zirkzee).

Should put things more into perspective before rating coaches performance.
 

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Why people think we need just 6 points to secure top 8? Looking at the table, after 4 games, teams with 8 points are under top 8 spot.
 

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Why people think we need just 6 points to secure top 8? Looking at the table, after 4 games, teams with 8 points are under top 8 spot.
It's based on simulations run before the competition. That it's very likely with 16p you are at top8.
 

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It's based on simulations run before the competition. That it's very likely with 16p you are at top8.

I know fotball manager is only a game and doesnt reflect reality, but thats basically my experience in FM as well. 16 points means roughly, top 8. It might be a little different in reality because I think there have been more upset results than expected - e.g. as it stands id argue there are only 3 of the big clubs in the top 8, but obviously the way the fixtures happen has massive influence
 

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"based on simulations" mean that you can run that format through computer for million times and look what's the most likely occurrence, second most likely etc. And the odds for 16p being enough for top8 was the best, I just don't know the exact figures but it was very close to 100%. Even 15p would be like 70% likeliness to make it to top8.

None of this matters in the real life in the sense how things really evolve, of course. Maybe we'll get that 1% event which requires more than 16p for the top8, who knows.

Fact is still, we're at a very good spot after MD 4.
 
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