Talented players who failed

[VLE]

R.Carlos had no name value when we bought him...

And he wasn't fielded as a fullback, he was fielded as a left midfielder in a flat midfield.

He was left fullback, and we insisted playing him on left winger because he couldn't defend on 442 flat.

How about we go back to basics?

What Facchetti was responsible for when it comes to transfers at Inter? Anybody ??

It was not what Facchetti decided on the transfer. We started to rely more on our scouts and less on Moratti's and new coach's list of favorite players depending on very little games they saw.

 

[Luka]

Really? Back to beginning, I don't think so. Prove me that he wasn't responsible.

That's not how it works buddy.

If I call you a pedofile, you won't have to prove me wrong. I have to prove what I just said, not the other way around.

It was not what Facchetti decided on the transfer. We started to rely more on our scouts and less on Moratti's and new coach's list of favorite players depending on very little games they saw.

That's a big step towards the valid answer I think. (not all, but a big step)

I know it, you know it, but it seems not everyone knows it.

 

[ataturk5]

Ryan babbell,loads of talent/potential,but we wont ever see it i dont think,we DO see it every blue moon,but NOWHERE near enough! no bottle/no heart!a great talent wasted because it doesnt MATTER to him enough!

 

[kova9]

I don't know which president brought them, and frankly I don't care, but sticking to the topic I have a few names..

Sorondo, Choutos, Helveg, Morfeo, Macellari, Brocchi, Mutu, N. Rivas, Pacheco, Ferrari, Vampeta, Keane, Pasquale, Coco, Van der Meyde, Luciano, Conceicao, Guglielminpietro, Gresko, Wome, Ze Maria, Kily, Cesar, Carini... uhhh, getting tired..

Not all of them neccesarily talented, but they were all failures more or less..

 

[InterBoy10]

guys..inter will play game with al helall KSA ?!!

 

[vitomins]

I don't know which president brought them, and frankly I don't care, but sticking to the topic I have a few names..

Sorondo, Choutos, Helveg, Morfeo, Macellari, Brocchi, Mutu, N. Rivas, Pacheco, Ferrari, Vampeta, Keane, Pasquale, Coco, Van der Meyde, Luciano, Conceicao, Guglielminpietro, Gresko, Wome, Ze Maria, Kily, Cesar, Carini... uhhh, getting tired..

Not all of them neccesarily talented, but they were all failures more or less..

Moratti - Sorondo, Helveg, Morfeo, Macellari, Brocchi, Mutu, Rivas, Pacheco, Ferrari, Vampeta, Keane, Pasquale, Coco, van der Meyde, Luciano, Conceição, Guglielminpietro, Greško


Facchetti - Choutos, Wome, Zé Maria, Kily González, César, Carini


LOL well thanks kova you completely ruined my argument of balance between good/bad signings for both Presidents!!!

Your list puts Moratti's bad signings at 3-1 compared to Facchetti....keep posting lists guys, this is the only real way to find out!

 

[brehme1989]

Facchetti 2-3 seasons, Moratti over 10 seasons though

Still you can't blame someone specific for a transfer unless he openly states that he wanted to buy him

 

[thomas_inter]

R.Carlos was bad for Inter and than he become the best left-back in the world playin for Real Madrid.
Bergkamp was bad for Inter and than he become Arsenal legend.
Seedorf was bad for Inter and than he become Milan legend.
Pirlo wasn't good enough but that he become the best playmaker in the world.

Emre, Dalmat, Farinos, VdM were all huge talents but thier careers are ruined on Moratti's cemetery. Something is wrong in club when Moratti is in charge.

For Luka:

Than came Fachetti and brought:

J.Cesar, Maicon, Samuel, Maxwell, Cambiasso, Vieira, Figo, Ibrahimović etc. All of them where crucial players in our success.

After Fachetti we have:




I my eyes Moratti isn't strong enough to be the boss. I adore to his love for Inter. He is a huge fun but he should give money and move from desk.

Last moves confirming that:

1. To buy Motta when you have Muntari, J.Zanetti, Cambiasso, Stanković and Vieira for that places are stupid move. Plus Chivu can play there if needs because we have enough defenders.

2. To buy Milito when you aren't sure how your attack will look in next season. Milito is very good player but I am 100% sure that Eto'o and Cassano are more compatible together from Eto'o-Milito.

3. To accept Ibra-Eto'o exchange when you already have Diego Milito was very dumb. He should wait that Barca sell Eto'o to Manchester City or United and than sell Ibra for money. Again Milito-Cassano is much better from Milito-Eto'o.

So this transfer window should make a team from us, I hope that will be the case but... Fukcing no 10 is needed for last five years, just like LB was needed when we sold R.Carlos.

That Fachetti is a live he would find some good, fresh player but with Moratti we will buy new Suazo, Mancini, Quaresma etc.

It is not like Moratti decides alone which players we buy.
He has a whole staff, but he pays.

I don't get your (plural) point with Facchetti passing away and Moratti, because we had the same scouts in that period. Explain to me please.

 

[kova9]

This argument is stupid. Like Yuko said, Moratti has been president for over 10 years, Fachetti only 2 or 3.. So it's logical that Moratti has more failures, just like he has more great signing..
And I don't think it ever happened that a single person decided to buy a player.. The whole managment and staff are included in signings..

 

[Hasan]

That's not how it works buddy.
If I call you a pedofile, you won't have to prove me wrong. I have to prove what I just said, not the other way around.

Going too far for me, I will give up. Children are only fortune on this world so I will say you're right. Very very bad example.

And Yuko argument is very good but Fachetti has done in 2-3 years more than Moratti in ten. He built-ed winning team.

 

[Luka]

Going too far for me, I will give up. Children are only fortune on this world so I will say you're right. Very very bad example.

Touch a nerve? I said "IF". That was so drastic to better show you the point.

I don't have to prove anything. YOU have to prove what you said is correct.

And Yuko argument is very good but Fachetti has done in 2-3 years more than Moratti in ten. He built-ed winning team.

Yuko, can you show me WITH EVIDENCE that Giacinto was responsible for transfers of Cambiasso, Maicon etc. ? I seriously would like this to happen.

We have NO WAY of knowing, WHO piloted WHICH transfer, and who PUSHED the idea in the first place. I'm seriously curious, how you sure it's Giacinto and thanks to him, and not others? Maybe the most credit should go to the scouts who watched those guys ???

You make this so simplistic it's hard to believe. You push aside arguments like "the fact Moratti got smarter over the years, the coaches had more to say about WHAT kind of players they want" etc.

This year we got: "Lucio, Eto'o, Milito, Motta". If we will get Sneijder(who we follow), and Cassano, you will also stick to the theory that when Giacinto was here, it was so splendid, and now it isn't ? 50 mln + Eto'o for Ibra was also a bad move ?

 

[thomas_inter]

I totally agree with Luka here.

Presidents aren't responsible for transfers on their own. Period.

 

[Hasan]

Touch a nerve? I said "IF". That was so drastic to better show you the point.

I don't have to prove anything. YOU have to prove what you said is correct.

Like I said, sick example. You showed the point and you're right.

I proved enough to you, some members agreed with me and some with you, this is a point where we started to turn into circle and I don't want that.

 

[Luka]

Now I can happily say it

Bad signings<Good signings---Fachetti era

How I know? I don't. I know that after he's gone we didn't make two quality moves on transfer market and that's a fact.

How about this year Hassan ?

 

[Alex de Large]

Depend on the player.

 

[vitomins]

Depend on the player.

Why is that?? Which transfer do you deem unsuccessful?

Miltio - 3 games, 1 goal & 2 assists
Motta - 3 games, 1 goal
Lucio - Started all 3 games, played well
Eto'o - 3 games, 2 goals
Arnautovic - Injured
Sneijder - Started after 1 day of training and played well

 

[Alex de Large]

RQ

 

[vitomins]

We are talking about transfers in this year...Quaresma had to come back, his loan was over and Chelsea did not want him....

Quaresma should be evaluated as last years market...Quaresma, Muntari, Crespo, Mancini, Obinna

 

[Luca-22]

We are talking about transfers in this year...Quaresma had to come back, his loan was over and Chelsea did not want him....

Quaresma should be evaluated as last years market...Quaresma, Muntari, Crespo, Mancini, Obinna

Crespo??

 

[vitomins]

Well we had Crespo on a loan, but we signed him as a free agent last year...