Simone Inzaghi

Will Simone Inzaghi win a Scudetto at Inter?


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Is it fickle fan season already?
It was already after the draw in genoa.....
Or when frattesi scored in the NT but was not starting for inter....

God damn climate change making a mess off all the seasons
Speaking of Limone though, I don’t know what the fuck that was supposed to be. Asllani and to a lesser degree, Frattesi, need to have their hands held by better players. That is to say they can only play amid the security and support of Barella and Calhanoglu.

I’m also still bewildered by the decision to rest Bastoni and expend both of our LWB’s for 90 minutes - especially after Dimarco started twice for Italy.
Meh we had to rest players at some point Simone decided that this was a good moment with our next two games being city and BBilan......
To me the most questionable thing was Miki starting, I would have much rather have one of Bare/hakan starting.

Like again we cannot all bitch about Simone never rotating and he one time he does we shit on him for rotating... We have to pick a lane or we sound like idiots 50% of the time.
 
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That doesn't look like a valid excuse to throw away a very important match of the league, but guess our management knows better.

I don't the match was thrown away, like @Fapuccino mentioned, we got some big chances early on, we didn't convert them.
It is not exactly a coach thing, nor was it really Asllani and Frattesi (except for the conversion part), the midfield did enough; it wasn't spectacular or anything, but we were able to keep possession, get to the final third overload on the left, and created enough chances and the defense also decent enough for most of the time in this game.

The main issue is Toro is still suffering from lack of resting and pre-season. The conversion part was our bigger issues last night, and Frattesi didn't convert those big chances like his usual self, not easy but still.

We just have to get Toro in shape.

Darmian is obvious showing his aging, but again wasn't the reason we didn't win.
Mhki normally plays worse with Asllani and Frattesi, it is almost suffering from the other 2's play, so I am giving him a pass this game.
 

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I don't the match was thrown away, like @Fapuccino mentioned, we got some big chances early on, we didn't convert them.
It is not exactly a coach thing, nor was it really Asllani and Frattesi (except for the conversion part), the midfield did enough; it wasn't spectacular or anything, but we were able to keep possession, get to the final third overload on the left, and created enough chances and the defense also decent enough for most of the time in this game.

The main issue is Toro is still suffering from lack of resting and pre-season. The conversion part was our bigger issues last night, and Frattesi didn't convert those big chances like his usual self, not easy but still.

We just have to get Toro in shape.

Darmian is obvious showing his aging, but again wasn't the reason we didn't win.
Mhki normally plays worse with Asllani and Frattesi, it is almost suffering from the other 2's play, so I am giving him a pass this game.

There is no other explanation rather than match being neglected by Inzaghi. First of all, you don't start with Asllani and Frattesi in the midfield, that's like shooting yourself in the foot. It was obviously a false step to begin with. I'm not trying to act like I know better than coach, but we have seen in previous matches how unbalanced we are and how predictable our team becomes when both of these guys play at the same time.

Asllani lacks Hakan's experience, while Frattesi looks lost while we are supposed to dominate the midfield and hold the ball possession. Asllani looks willing to take the ball and move it around, but when the team is lacking movement as a whole, he looks very limited and that's where Hakan's experience makes difference.

I see no complaints over Thuram's stinker last night. The guy was basically zero effort throughout the game. Lautaro was still somewhat trying, but his legs are heavy and he isn't fresh yet. Mkhi was quite poor aswell. He's done more errors than good things, and he's most experienced player we had last night.

I dunno, to me it looked like Inzaghi failed to prepare the match in a best way. Monza was never a threat actually, they just sit back and tried to damage on counters. I saw the same approach as we did against Sociedad last season (away match), except that Sociedad was superior than Monza and they dominated by far.

These things happen in football, and I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but it boils my blood that Inzaghi had plenty of time to prepare the game. Rotation is necessary at times, but NOT once you change almost entire structure of the starting line-up, because we looked like a complete different team.

And I'm not even going to talk about substitutions, because that was another L take by Inzaghi.
 

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Capello might be right about S.Inzaghi not so clear-minded with lots of rotation, even I think we still did enough to win the game, but the tactics were not as sharp and relied on a few things, and when they don't work it gets clunky. I respect the gamble at the end of the game; cause it showed guts and desire to win, but it is a gamble.

The xG showed we deserved to win 2-0 against Monza.

I personally think it is not about clear-minded or not, but try not to be over tactical and fluid due to the limitation of the personnel, but I always dislike pairing Frattesi with Asllani without a forward that likes to drop back and help build up.

Like on paper it seems like Asllani and Frattesi should complete each other, but in reality it just disjoint the midfield entirely.
 

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That draw will be a huge confidence booster going forwards, but our finishing is just so bad.

Man City had the same "chances" as us, but we were defending deep so they were much harder for them. They gifted us acres of spaces and we found a way to squander it 15-20 times.
 

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Inter Milan are an anomaly among top European teams – they almost never dribble​



Shortly before Manchester City beat Inter Milan in the 2022-23 Champions League final, Pep Guardiola was asked what was different about his side that made them such strong contenders.

“I learned this season when you play against Bukayo Saka, Vinicius Junior, Gabriel Martinelli and Mohamed Salah or Sadio Mane, you need a proper defender to win duels one-v-one,” he said. “In the Champions League, at that level, they only need one action to beat you.” But that wasn’t a major factor against Inter that night in Istanbul. And it wasn’t a major factor against them on Wednesday in both sides’ opening match of the 2024-25 Champions League, either.

Inter came to Manchester and, in one sense, held on for a 0-0 draw — City spurned some fine chances — but in another sense, Inter should have won the game. Mehdi Taremi could have done better on a couple of occasions. Henrikh Mkhitaryan blasted a shot over late on. A couple of needless offsides thwarted promising attacks, and, most obviously, Matteo Darmian bafflingly decided to backheel the ball to absolutely no one when practically through on goal.

Almost all of Inter’s dangerous moments came from direct breaks — either counter-attacks in the traditional sense or flowing passing moves after springing past City’s press and driving forward.

Yet they managed to do this despite almost never attempting to dribble by an opponent. The post-match statistics showed that only once did an Inter player, Marcus Thuram, complete a ‘take-on’ (defined by Opta as “an attempt to beat an opponent when a player has possession of the ball”). Equally, City managed this only once themselves, through Josko Gvardiol.

This was a typical Inter match. And as a general footballing rule, Italy has never been a nation of dribblers. A country that stresses the importance of defensive solidity in the game, compactness and getting results has traditionally been sceptical about wingers, the players most associated with dribbling. Italy has preferred to indulge superstars in the No 10 role. Wide players are tasked with getting up and down, protecting the full-back behind them as much as beating the opponent they’re facing.

There have probably been no top-class Italian wingers in the 21st century, but plenty of top-class Italian players in every other position. Few sides epitomise this notion more than Simone Inzaghi’s Inter, who are a likeable and very good team.

Crowned Serie A champions by a distance last season, they also play in a manner that feels suited to cup competitions. Inzaghi’s results in knockout football as coach at Lazio and Inter have been excellent. He guided this team to that 2023 final against City.

Inter offer almost everything: defensive strength, brave build-up play, guile in midfield, combination play up front and late runs from wing-back. But their players almost never dribble past their opponents.

As the below graph shows, only three clubs scored in their domestic league last season at a higher rate than Inter — City and the German duo of Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen. And overall, there is a predictable correlation between sides who score lots of goals and sides who dribble past opponents — but Inter are the absolute outliers. They attempted the fewest number of dribbles from the 96 sides across Europe’s five major domestic leagues last season.

Part of this is due to the system.

Inzaghi used a 3-5-2 in every league game last season and shows little sign of trying anything different in this one. If you use a system without wingers, your players probably will not attempt many dribbles. But this is a chicken-and-egg scenario: Inzaghi’s formation preference could reflect his lack of interest in dribblers, rather than simply being the cause of his lack of dribblers.

And while Inter are outliers in European terms, they are merely an extreme reflection of their nation. It comes as little surprise that Serie A featured the fewest attempted — and completed — dribbles per game last season. Genoa, Monza and Roma, all of whom played 3-5-2 for at least part of 2023-24, were also among the least dribbly sides in Europe.

What Inter do offer, it should be clarified, is ball-carrying ability. Taremi and Thuram, their strike duo at the Etihad last night, are both capable of receiving the ball and driving forward into space — generally backed up by a couple of other runners — although they are not actually ‘tricky’ or likely to weave past opponents. When faced by City defenders, Taremi always elected to pass, sometimes frustratingly so. Lautaro Martinez, club captain but only fit enough to be used from the bench yesterday, can shoot effectively on the run, although his dribble success rate last season was one of the worst in Serie A.

In deeper positions, Nicolo Barella is capable of the odd dribble, although he is more renowned as an off-the-ball runner. That is also the role played by the two wing-backs, although for this game Inter were without Federico Dimarco down the left, and on the right used the more defensively solid Darmian rather than a genuine speedster in Denzel Dumfries.

But what Inter do excellently, at times, is play lightning-fast passing moves that cut through the opposition. Regardless of who Inzaghi starts up front, the two strikers always play impressive combinations to one-two their way past opponents.

In deeper zones, when playing out from the back, the three centre-backs take up ludicrously advanced positions, almost swapping roles with midfielders Hakan Calhanoglu and Piotr Zielinski. Left-sided Alessandro Bastoni sometimes became a left-winger, Yann Bisseck did something similar on the right, while Francesco Acerbi became a holding midfielder.

When Inter lost possession — as they did on a few occasions — they were in big trouble. But it also proved effective, at times, in terms of getting past City and feeding the ball to their strikers. It also shows that Inzaghi’s side are happy to take some risks.

Next up for Inter is the big one: Sunday’s Derby della Madonnina against their troubled city rivals Milan.

This could be a derby of complete contrasts. If Inter are anti-dribblers, Milan’s attacking spark comes from Rafael Leao, who, at his best, goes past opponents with ease. And whereas Guardiola purred about the way Inter’s centre-backs defended the six-yard box, Liverpool counterpart Arne Slot targeted Milan’s lack of aerial power as his side scored twice from set pieces in a comfortable 3-1 Champions League win at San Siro on Tuesday.

Inter are favourites to beat Milan on Sunday. They are also favourites to win Serie A again this season — despite, or maybe because of, that lack of dribbling ability.

A thought-provoking article. I am also not sure if Inzaghi doesn't prioritize dribbling or because simply no money to buy a competent dribbler.
 

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Inter Milan are an anomaly among top European teams – they almost never dribble​



Shortly before Manchester City beat Inter Milan in the 2022-23 Champions League final, Pep Guardiola was asked what was different about his side that made them such strong contenders.

“I learned this season when you play against Bukayo Saka, Vinicius Junior, Gabriel Martinelli and Mohamed Salah or Sadio Mane, you need a proper defender to win duels one-v-one,” he said. “In the Champions League, at that level, they only need one action to beat you.” But that wasn’t a major factor against Inter that night in Istanbul. And it wasn’t a major factor against them on Wednesday in both sides’ opening match of the 2024-25 Champions League, either.

Inter came to Manchester and, in one sense, held on for a 0-0 draw — City spurned some fine chances — but in another sense, Inter should have won the game. Mehdi Taremi could have done better on a couple of occasions. Henrikh Mkhitaryan blasted a shot over late on. A couple of needless offsides thwarted promising attacks, and, most obviously, Matteo Darmian bafflingly decided to backheel the ball to absolutely no one when practically through on goal.

Almost all of Inter’s dangerous moments came from direct breaks — either counter-attacks in the traditional sense or flowing passing moves after springing past City’s press and driving forward.

Yet they managed to do this despite almost never attempting to dribble by an opponent. The post-match statistics showed that only once did an Inter player, Marcus Thuram, complete a ‘take-on’ (defined by Opta as “an attempt to beat an opponent when a player has possession of the ball”). Equally, City managed this only once themselves, through Josko Gvardiol.

This was a typical Inter match. And as a general footballing rule, Italy has never been a nation of dribblers. A country that stresses the importance of defensive solidity in the game, compactness and getting results has traditionally been sceptical about wingers, the players most associated with dribbling. Italy has preferred to indulge superstars in the No 10 role. Wide players are tasked with getting up and down, protecting the full-back behind them as much as beating the opponent they’re facing.

There have probably been no top-class Italian wingers in the 21st century, but plenty of top-class Italian players in every other position. Few sides epitomise this notion more than Simone Inzaghi’s Inter, who are a likeable and very good team.

Crowned Serie A champions by a distance last season, they also play in a manner that feels suited to cup competitions. Inzaghi’s results in knockout football as coach at Lazio and Inter have been excellent. He guided this team to that 2023 final against City.

Inter offer almost everything: defensive strength, brave build-up play, guile in midfield, combination play up front and late runs from wing-back. But their players almost never dribble past their opponents.

As the below graph shows, only three clubs scored in their domestic league last season at a higher rate than Inter — City and the German duo of Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen. And overall, there is a predictable correlation between sides who score lots of goals and sides who dribble past opponents — but Inter are the absolute outliers. They attempted the fewest number of dribbles from the 96 sides across Europe’s five major domestic leagues last season.

Part of this is due to the system.

Inzaghi used a 3-5-2 in every league game last season and shows little sign of trying anything different in this one. If you use a system without wingers, your players probably will not attempt many dribbles. But this is a chicken-and-egg scenario: Inzaghi’s formation preference could reflect his lack of interest in dribblers, rather than simply being the cause of his lack of dribblers.

And while Inter are outliers in European terms, they are merely an extreme reflection of their nation. It comes as little surprise that Serie A featured the fewest attempted — and completed — dribbles per game last season. Genoa, Monza and Roma, all of whom played 3-5-2 for at least part of 2023-24, were also among the least dribbly sides in Europe.

What Inter do offer, it should be clarified, is ball-carrying ability. Taremi and Thuram, their strike duo at the Etihad last night, are both capable of receiving the ball and driving forward into space — generally backed up by a couple of other runners — although they are not actually ‘tricky’ or likely to weave past opponents. When faced by City defenders, Taremi always elected to pass, sometimes frustratingly so. Lautaro Martinez, club captain but only fit enough to be used from the bench yesterday, can shoot effectively on the run, although his dribble success rate last season was one of the worst in Serie A.

In deeper positions, Nicolo Barella is capable of the odd dribble, although he is more renowned as an off-the-ball runner. That is also the role played by the two wing-backs, although for this game Inter were without Federico Dimarco down the left, and on the right used the more defensively solid Darmian rather than a genuine speedster in Denzel Dumfries.

But what Inter do excellently, at times, is play lightning-fast passing moves that cut through the opposition. Regardless of who Inzaghi starts up front, the two strikers always play impressive combinations to one-two their way past opponents.

In deeper zones, when playing out from the back, the three centre-backs take up ludicrously advanced positions, almost swapping roles with midfielders Hakan Calhanoglu and Piotr Zielinski. Left-sided Alessandro Bastoni sometimes became a left-winger, Yann Bisseck did something similar on the right, while Francesco Acerbi became a holding midfielder.

When Inter lost possession — as they did on a few occasions — they were in big trouble. But it also proved effective, at times, in terms of getting past City and feeding the ball to their strikers. It also shows that Inzaghi’s side are happy to take some risks.

Next up for Inter is the big one: Sunday’s Derby della Madonnina against their troubled city rivals Milan.

This could be a derby of complete contrasts. If Inter are anti-dribblers, Milan’s attacking spark comes from Rafael Leao, who, at his best, goes past opponents with ease. And whereas Guardiola purred about the way Inter’s centre-backs defended the six-yard box, Liverpool counterpart Arne Slot targeted Milan’s lack of aerial power as his side scored twice from set pieces in a comfortable 3-1 Champions League win at San Siro on Tuesday.

Inter are favourites to beat Milan on Sunday. They are also favourites to win Serie A again this season — despite, or maybe because of, that lack of dribbling ability.

A thought-provoking article. I am also not sure if Inzaghi doesn't prioritize dribbling or because simply no money to buy a competent dribbler.

I lean more towards the latter, from his preferences that he obvious wants a player that can create something out of nothing (backup plan for desperate situations), hence Correa (even he failed), he also allows Bissecks to take on, and not limiting TB dribbling.

Also a dribbler can be cheap, but a dribbler that can play the game in other perspectives are normally very expensive.
 

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Inter Milan are an anomaly among top European teams – they almost never dribble​



Shortly before Manchester City beat Inter Milan in the 2022-23 Champions League final, Pep Guardiola was asked what was different about his side that made them such strong contenders.

“I learned this season when you play against Bukayo Saka, Vinicius Junior, Gabriel Martinelli and Mohamed Salah or Sadio Mane, you need a proper defender to win duels one-v-one,” he said. “In the Champions League, at that level, they only need one action to beat you.” But that wasn’t a major factor against Inter that night in Istanbul. And it wasn’t a major factor against them on Wednesday in both sides’ opening match of the 2024-25 Champions League, either.

Inter came to Manchester and, in one sense, held on for a 0-0 draw — City spurned some fine chances — but in another sense, Inter should have won the game. Mehdi Taremi could have done better on a couple of occasions. Henrikh Mkhitaryan blasted a shot over late on. A couple of needless offsides thwarted promising attacks, and, most obviously, Matteo Darmian bafflingly decided to backheel the ball to absolutely no one when practically through on goal.

Almost all of Inter’s dangerous moments came from direct breaks — either counter-attacks in the traditional sense or flowing passing moves after springing past City’s press and driving forward.

Yet they managed to do this despite almost never attempting to dribble by an opponent. The post-match statistics showed that only once did an Inter player, Marcus Thuram, complete a ‘take-on’ (defined by Opta as “an attempt to beat an opponent when a player has possession of the ball”). Equally, City managed this only once themselves, through Josko Gvardiol.

This was a typical Inter match. And as a general footballing rule, Italy has never been a nation of dribblers. A country that stresses the importance of defensive solidity in the game, compactness and getting results has traditionally been sceptical about wingers, the players most associated with dribbling. Italy has preferred to indulge superstars in the No 10 role. Wide players are tasked with getting up and down, protecting the full-back behind them as much as beating the opponent they’re facing.

There have probably been no top-class Italian wingers in the 21st century, but plenty of top-class Italian players in every other position. Few sides epitomise this notion more than Simone Inzaghi’s Inter, who are a likeable and very good team.

Crowned Serie A champions by a distance last season, they also play in a manner that feels suited to cup competitions. Inzaghi’s results in knockout football as coach at Lazio and Inter have been excellent. He guided this team to that 2023 final against City.

Inter offer almost everything: defensive strength, brave build-up play, guile in midfield, combination play up front and late runs from wing-back. But their players almost never dribble past their opponents.

As the below graph shows, only three clubs scored in their domestic league last season at a higher rate than Inter — City and the German duo of Bayern Munich and Bayer Leverkusen. And overall, there is a predictable correlation between sides who score lots of goals and sides who dribble past opponents — but Inter are the absolute outliers. They attempted the fewest number of dribbles from the 96 sides across Europe’s five major domestic leagues last season.

Part of this is due to the system.

Inzaghi used a 3-5-2 in every league game last season and shows little sign of trying anything different in this one. If you use a system without wingers, your players probably will not attempt many dribbles. But this is a chicken-and-egg scenario: Inzaghi’s formation preference could reflect his lack of interest in dribblers, rather than simply being the cause of his lack of dribblers.

And while Inter are outliers in European terms, they are merely an extreme reflection of their nation. It comes as little surprise that Serie A featured the fewest attempted — and completed — dribbles per game last season. Genoa, Monza and Roma, all of whom played 3-5-2 for at least part of 2023-24, were also among the least dribbly sides in Europe.

What Inter do offer, it should be clarified, is ball-carrying ability. Taremi and Thuram, their strike duo at the Etihad last night, are both capable of receiving the ball and driving forward into space — generally backed up by a couple of other runners — although they are not actually ‘tricky’ or likely to weave past opponents. When faced by City defenders, Taremi always elected to pass, sometimes frustratingly so. Lautaro Martinez, club captain but only fit enough to be used from the bench yesterday, can shoot effectively on the run, although his dribble success rate last season was one of the worst in Serie A.

In deeper positions, Nicolo Barella is capable of the odd dribble, although he is more renowned as an off-the-ball runner. That is also the role played by the two wing-backs, although for this game Inter were without Federico Dimarco down the left, and on the right used the more defensively solid Darmian rather than a genuine speedster in Denzel Dumfries.

But what Inter do excellently, at times, is play lightning-fast passing moves that cut through the opposition. Regardless of who Inzaghi starts up front, the two strikers always play impressive combinations to one-two their way past opponents.

In deeper zones, when playing out from the back, the three centre-backs take up ludicrously advanced positions, almost swapping roles with midfielders Hakan Calhanoglu and Piotr Zielinski. Left-sided Alessandro Bastoni sometimes became a left-winger, Yann Bisseck did something similar on the right, while Francesco Acerbi became a holding midfielder.

When Inter lost possession — as they did on a few occasions — they were in big trouble. But it also proved effective, at times, in terms of getting past City and feeding the ball to their strikers. It also shows that Inzaghi’s side are happy to take some risks.

Next up for Inter is the big one: Sunday’s Derby della Madonnina against their troubled city rivals Milan.

This could be a derby of complete contrasts. If Inter are anti-dribblers, Milan’s attacking spark comes from Rafael Leao, who, at his best, goes past opponents with ease. And whereas Guardiola purred about the way Inter’s centre-backs defended the six-yard box, Liverpool counterpart Arne Slot targeted Milan’s lack of aerial power as his side scored twice from set pieces in a comfortable 3-1 Champions League win at San Siro on Tuesday.

Inter are favourites to beat Milan on Sunday. They are also favourites to win Serie A again this season — despite, or maybe because of, that lack of dribbling ability.

A thought-provoking article. I am also not sure if Inzaghi doesn't prioritize dribbling or because simply no money to buy a competent dribbler.

It's definitely the latter.
 

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This also shows that, football can be played and won in a certain way.
 

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I mean we're playing a wingerless formation...
 

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Michael Cox is brilliant football writer, he’s behind Zonal Marking site.
Indeed. I have been following him since he started ZM. Him and James Horncastle are the reasons I subsribe to The Athletic.
 

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I mean we're playing a wingerless formation...
It's that, but not just that. It's a methodical approach where we try to maximize the number of chances and minimize the number of lost balls. I'm sure Conte's Inter and Mourinho's Inter weren't as dribbly as other big clubs either.
 

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It's more of a question of the characteristics of our players. Bring Hakimi back and he'll put together more dribbles than the entire squad, combined. Dimarco and Dumfries both aren't fast, nor are they tricky.
 

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It's more of a question of the characteristics of our players. Bring Hakimi back and he'll put together more dribbles than the entire squad, combined. Dimarco and Dumfries both aren't fast, nor are they tricky.
Yeah Simone pretty much plays the players to their strengths, within the context of play he wants the team to implement.

You see that when we have Dimarco instead of Augusto on the left, the entire setup looks different. Just an example.

Put Hakimi as you say on the team instead of Dumfries and you pretty much have a second Frattesi on the team, with Hakan, Bastoni, Barella, Dimarco sending long balls behind the defense, rather than Hakimi trying the same thing towards Dimarco. Dumfries isn't really that fast - just has a long stride - so it cannot really work. He's more of a worker than a runner, so he'll bust his ass off but he cannot really be thrown a through ball and be expected to reach it and do something with it. At least not most of the times. Neither can any of our wing backs. Overlapping without the ball isn't really in our arsenal, yet we do it all the time because our short passing system allows for such spaces to be exploited. Imagine if you enhance that with guys like Hakimi or eg Davies on the flanks. But for such an LWB you'd need the RWB to be someone of the Cancelo type, ball demanding, who can hit it anywhere and can also do something unexpected so that the defenders aren't always onto his next move.
 
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