Serie A Calcio Mercato, Summer 2022-23

[BasedGodPunk]

Bonucci has always been a very good defender. But he is not in the same class as Chiellini. Chiellini was the best defender of the 2010's. Ramos may arguably have been a better player but for simply defensive purposes, Chiellini was always better. Bonucci and Barzagli were both of similar quality.

 

[Fitzy]

Wtf

https://twitter.com/x/status/1547689376221503494

Wouldn't be a bad place to retire to tbh.

 

[Bluenine]

Like I’m sorry he doesn’t play for a top club and Italian players outside of Barella and Veratti and maybe Bastoni…. Aren’t that good.

I would add Chiesa & Tonali to that list easily, even Jorginho despite his recent fuck ups (didn't he just finish 3rd in the Ballon D'Or race?). I also rate Pellegrini very highly, but I guess not everyone does.

But what you are suggesting is still true. The problem with Italy is that the attack sucks. You take Chiesa out (as he was after the Euros), and the Azzurri frontline is mediocre. So you could say that the current squad overachieved at the Euro's as all key players were fit.

These may sound like excuses because they are but Italy didn't qualify coz:

- Key players like Chiesa, Spinazzola, etc were injured
- After Euro's, Italy just didn't have time to regroup & try new faces as the WC was just a year later.
- The WC qualifying is a very silly format as a couple of average games & you are out
- Muppet Jorginho missed penalties in both those games, even one of those penalties would have taken Italy through

Mancini is now doing the right thing trying new young faces, good to see an Italian coach not afraid to do that. But the talent upfront is really poor. Italy need to find a couple of more players like Chiesa to be considered a top nation.

 

[Black Knight]

Strakosha just signed for Brentford. Weird move for him, unless they promised that they'll be selling Raya soon.

 

[crzdcolombian]

I would add Chiesa & Tonali to that list easily, even Jorginho despite his recent fuck ups (didn't he just finish 3rd in the Ballon D'Or race?). I also rate Pellegrini very highly, but I guess not everyone does.

But what you are suggesting is still true. The problem with Italy is that the attack sucks. You take Chiesa out (as he was after the Euros), and the Azzurri frontline is mediocre. So you could say that the current squad overachieved at the Euro's as all key players were fit.

These may sound like excuses because they are but Italy didn't qualify coz:

- Key players like Chiesa, Spinazzola, etc were injured
- After Euro's, Italy just didn't have time to regroup & try new faces as the WC was just a year later.
- The WC qualifying is a very silly format as a couple of average games & you are out
- Muppet Jorginho missed penalties in both those games, even one of those penalties would have taken Italy through

Mancini is now doing the right thing trying new young faces, good to see an Italian coach not afraid to do that. But the talent upfront is really poor. Italy need to find a couple of more players like Chiesa to be considered a top nation.

Italy wins because it is accustomed to winning. Even with shit rosters they won euros and world cups. They have a winning mentality same with Germany, Brazil.

Some teams just shit their pants. Chile/Colombia in 2014 >>>>>>> than Brazil/Argentina yet don't get as far because they just have never won anything. Brazil hit both teams a few times then they cry about fouls. Sure bigger teams get away with stuff but its like you need to win on the field. Pretty sure the ref wanted Brazil to beat Germany when the lost 7-1 . Holland is a great example of it. Spain till the won the World Cup.

Italian teams just don't give Italians shots. Unless its a mid table team big teams rather play a u20 player from the Brazilian or Argentina league than a Genoa player with similar stats. They don't give the Genoa player chances nor give him the same benefit of the doubt.

Also euro fans = euro teams/big clubs with better NT rosters. Colombia beat Poland 3 times with all Poland playing in Germany and most our guys playing in Colombia or Argentina or Mexico. Ecuador used a bunch of kids and rated all the "euro" Colombian players 6-1. Real games aren't Fifa. In WCQs Bolivia, Venezulea and Peru do not lose every game of qualifiers.

Germany/Spain >>>>> since their best teams are basically the NT plus some world class players from other countries.

When we won the Champions league how many Italians did Inter have? Matrix? Who else....

Even now its shocking we have 2 Italian starters Bastoni and Barella. For the best team in the country to just have 2 isn't great. Fine the smaller clubs want crack head prices when we ask for them but still. That is just not developing players. Zanilo + money for fking Ninja who hated us and never even played for us plus cost us the league 3 seasons ago while we paid most of his wages.

Inter is too horny for players from other leagues as well. Dalbert/Lazzaro for 20 million each... yet we lost Cancelo to Juve for that much.

 

[Stefan]

I would add Chiesa & Tonali to that list easily, even Jorginho despite his recent fuck ups (didn't he just finish 3rd in the Ballon D'Or race?). I also rate Pellegrini very highly, but I guess not everyone does.

But what you are suggesting is still true. The problem with Italy is that the attack sucks. You take Chiesa out (as he was after the Euros), and the Azzurri frontline is mediocre. So you could say that the current squad overachieved at the Euro's as all key players were fit.

These may sound like excuses because they are but Italy didn't qualify coz:

- Key players like Chiesa, Spinazzola, etc were injured
- After Euro's, Italy just didn't have time to regroup & try new faces as the WC was just a year later.
- The WC qualifying is a very silly format as a couple of average games & you are out
- Muppet Jorginho missed penalties in both those games, even one of those penalties would have taken Italy through

Mancini is now doing the right thing trying new young faces, good to see an Italian coach not afraid to do that. But the talent upfront is really poor. Italy need to find a couple of more players like Chiesa to be considered a top nation.

Only a couple of bad games?
I would consider drawing Bulgaria, Switzerland 2x, Northern Ireland and losing to Macedonia. More then just a couple of bad games.

As for chiesa being WC. Debatable was very inconsistent before his acl injury and we have to see how he recovers from it. His numbers simply doesn't read WC.

Tonali has had one great season. Too early to proclaim him. He looks good and conte is an idiot for preferring vidal but he needs another season or two to cement that status.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

I haven't found a better thread to write this, so ill do it here.

The italian press is embarrassing and espcially GDS. Those clowns reported every day in the last week that Skriniar to PSG is almost done and that PSG has raised their offer while Inter lower their demand. Now they report that there was no contact in the last few days so basically they took a bad guess and reported like it wad the truth.

Now they say that Intet must make capital gain of 60+ by this summer but ofcourse it's not true, Inter must make a capital gain by 30.6.2023.

The only reporter that i found relaible this summer is Pedulla. He was the first to report Asllani, first to report Mykhitrian and other deals. Of course he's not 100%, but he's the least worse.

 

[Il Drago]

I haven't found a better thread to write this, so ill do it here.

The italian press is embarrassing and espcially GDS. Those clowns reported every day in the last week that Skriniar to PSG is almost done and that PSG has raised their offer while Inter lower their demand. Now they report that there was no contact in the last few days so basically they took a bad guess and reported like it wad the truth.

Now they say that Intet must make capital gain of 60+ by this summer but ofcourse it's not true, Inter must make a capital gain by 30.6.2023.

The only reporter that i found relaible this summer is Pedulla. He was the first to report Asllani, first to report Mykhitrian and other deals. Of course he's not 100%, but he's the least worse.

I usually use this thread to bash Italian media but it's fitting in this one too.

For me the biggest disappointment this summer is Di Marzio. He simply doesn't have good sources for Inter. He covered Lukaku saga well and he was first for Bellanova but he has missed everything else. Late for Mhki, late for Asllani, late for Bremer, late for Dybala. Especially with Dybala, he knows shit. He reported Inter's interest in Dybala only when his agent was going to meet Marotta and he he has linked Dybala with any team you could imagine only because he has to say something about him. Atletico, Roma, Napoli, Milan, Man Utd, even freaking Monza. Just throwing random teams hoping something will stick in the end.

I only trust Pedulla this summer.

 

[CafeCordoba]

It feels like Marotta feeds Di Marzio for whatever he wants in public and Di Marzio obeys without questions (well what else can he do)

 

[brehme1989]

I don't buy that Pedulla suddenly got insider's knowledge from Inter even if it's possible. His source looks Turin based as he knows shit about Bremer and Dybala, but everything else he reported isn't really secret.

 

[CafeCordoba]

AFAIK he was early on Asllani too.

 

[Il Drago]

AFAIK he was early on Asllani too.

Mhki too. It isn't just about Turin clubs.

 

[brehme1989]

Mhki too. It isn't just about Turin clubs.

Early?
He was offered in December, we talked to him, when? April? Confirmed him in mid May?
Wouldn't call that early.

Asllani probably yeah but we don't even know if he's a first team player yet

 

[IM21]

Dzeko making 4 times more than that. LOL

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548460136955490307

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Early?
He was offered in December, we talked to him, when? April? Confirmed him in mid May?
Wouldn't call that early.

Asllani probably yeah but we don't even know if he's a first team player yet

Inzaghi is clearly counting on having him in the roster. We wouldn’t have spent 12mil+ on a player we didn’t want in the first team in this moment.

 

[eduzee]

Dzeko making 4 times more than that. LOL

https://twitter.com/x/status/1548460136955490307

41 years old and in a great shape Amazing athlete.

 

[brehme1989]

Inzaghi is clearly counting on having him in the roster. We wouldn’t have spent 12mil+ on a player we didn’t want in the first team in this moment.

Inzaghi also considered Sensi and Satriano for the first team in last year's preseason and we were trying to ship them during the winter market.

It's not guaranteed that this kid will stick around. Hopefully he's good enough.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Inzaghi also considered Sensi and Satriano for the first team in last year's preseason and we were trying to ship them during the winter market.

It's not guaranteed that this kid will stick around. Hopefully he's good enough.

Agreed there’s no guarantee but it’s not really the same in either case. Satriano was signed to our youth team and was promoted to the first team for coverage primarily. Sensi’s problems are mostly physical and also somewhat mental.

We payed a healthy fee to sign Asllani directly from another serie A side (as we did for Sensi). There’s no guarantee a transfer will pan out but we’re definitely counting on him to deputize brozo. At least that’s the plan. He’s going to be a first team player in any case.

 

[Il Drago]

Sensi was fit since October and Inzaghi had barely played him till he left in January. He was always the last in midfield pecking order, behind Gagliardini and Vecino. Even after saving his ass in the Coppa, Inzaghi kept Sensi on the bench for the entire match against Venezia. Facts show Inzaghi was done with Sensi after the match against Sampdoria.

 

[NimAraya]

Sensi was fit since October and Inzaghi had barely played him till he left in January. He was always the last in midfield pecking order, behind Gagliardini and Vecino. Even after saving his ass in the Coppa, Inzaghi kept Sensi on the bench for the entire match against Venezia. Facts show Inzaghi was done with Sensi after the match against Sampdoria.

Yeah, but a fit Sensi barely fits the fit standards of a normal player. He's one blow away from breaking in half at any moment.