Piotr Zielinski

[Dave54]

So

Cause Mhiki aint getting younger and better maybe? We need his replacement and if we get Zielinsky for free thats fucking great. Frattesi is different player. Or you would want to have someone like Klaassen instead? People here dont wanting Zielinsky is some new level shit right here lol

I don't mind him to come here but, 4,5 mil is too much in my opinion. And he is not coming from the highs. average season,

 

[Dave54]

Some new level shit? I'm just saying the salary is high.

 

[IM21]

I don't mind him to come here but, 4,5 mil is too much in my opinion. And he is not coming from the highs. average season,

id rather pay Zielinski 5M than Mkhitaryan 4M.

 

[Il Drago]

I don't watching too much of Napoli this season, but Zielinski wasn't very good last season. I hope we don't get another Nainggolan.

I have always been a huge fan of Zielinski but it's true he has declined in the last two seasons. I understand the comparison with Nainggolan but circumstances are different.

- Nainggolan was forced out of Roma while Zielinski is leaving on his own
- Nainggolan was expected to be the midfield leader and savior in a dysfinctional midfield that had only one top player in Brozovic while Zielinski is expected to be one extra option in a well functioning midfield
- Nainggolan was a very costly operation while Zielinski would come on a free.

Zielinski deal has its risks but i feel it's a risk you need to take. Mkhi isn't getting any younger and there's no money for a proper replacement.

 

[Dave54]

id rather pay Zielinski 5M than Mkhitaryan 4M.

It's not a news for me your stance on Miki. Move on

 

[IM21]

It's not a news for me your stance on Miki. Move on

no normal person should be fine with paying Mkhitaryan 4M per season. And you can be a hater, or his biggest fan. This is too much money for a 35 year old, that will be 36 next season.

 

[Dave54]

Dude. He signed his contract 2 years ago, when he was 32. At 3,5 mil. Nobody is asking for resigning. He should run his contract and leave. I think, I made myself clear on that.

 

[bubba zanetti]

id rather pay Zielinski 5M than Mkhitaryan 4M.

I would keep both.

 

[PHM1605]

I don't watching too much of Napoli this season, but Zielinski wasn't very good last season. I hope we don't get another Nainggolan.

Zielinski is closer to Hakan or Mikhy than Nainggolan (type of transfers), all things considered.

 

[Dave54]

no normal person should be fine with paying Mkhitaryan 4M per season. And you can be a hater, or his biggest fan. This is too much money for a 35 year old, that will be 36 next season.

No normal, sane person would claim that Sensi is 10 times the player than Miki. But I digress. You on the mission here. You were the biggest proponent of Frattesi, and now you are not even giving him a chance to prove himself. Outstanding I have a better solution, split 20 games between Miki and Frattesi starts. And get Zielinsky on a reduced salary. Pretty fair way to deal with situation.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

Zelinski is a high quality midfielder in terms of Serie A. Even last season, which he showed decline, he managed to provide 3 goals and 9 assists. A perfect replacment for Mikhi and in general it will upgarde our midfield because next season we'll probably have Mikhi on the bench and not Klassen and Sensi.

In terms of salary, you guys need to remember that last summer we should have signed Lukaku in a multiple year contract and a total cost of more than 20M. We managed to sign other strikers and Pavard in a much lower cost (growth decree for Pavard will start in 2024). Also, remember Sensi (annual cost of salary only is 3.7M) and Klassen leaves and Im sure we won't sign other midfielder after Zelinski, so the annual cost for the midfiled section won't change too much.

So basically its a quality signing of proven Serie A player that shouldn't harm our economic goals.

 

[Dave54]

Zelinski is a high quality midfielder in terms of Serie A. Even last season, which he showed decline, he managed to provide 3 goals and 9 assists. A perfect replacment for Mikhi and in general it will upgarde our midfield because next season we'll probably have Mikhi on the bench and not Klassen and Sensi.

In terms of salary, you guys need to remember that last summer we should have signed Lukaku in a multiple year contract and a total cost of more than 20M. We managed to sign other strikers and Pavard in a much lower cost (growth decree for Pavard will start in 2024). Also, remember Sensi (annual cost of salary only is 3.7M) and Klassen leaves and Im sure we won't sign other midfielder after Zelinski, so the annual cost for the midfiled section won't change too much.

So basically its a quality signing of proven Serie A player that shouldn't harm our economic goals.

Then we should get rid of Sensi to free up money.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

Then we should get rid of Sensi to free up money.

Sensi contract is ending this summer so we need to do nothing.

 

[Dave54]

ok. if that's the case, let's get Zielinski for 4.5 mil.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I have always been a huge fan of Zielinski but it's true he has declined in the last two seasons. I understand the comparison with Nainggolan but circumstances are different.

- Nainggolan was forced out of Roma while Zielinski is leaving on his own
- Nainggolan was expected to be the midfield leader and savior in a dysfinctional midfield that had only one top player in Brozovic while Zielinski is expected to be one extra option in a well functioning midfield
- Nainggolan was a very costly operation while Zielinski would come on a free.

Zielinski deal has its risks but i feel it's a risk you need to take. Mkhi isn't getting any younger and there's no money for a proper replacement.

Very good dissection of the case. And you didn't mention one of the key factors Nainggolan failed to fit in. At Inter at the time, was expected full professionalism, no BS in clubs, not the life style Nainggolan enjoyed living. At Roma that was fine and it worked fine with the club and player. At Inter it didn't work at all.

 

[varmin]

I know that Zielinski is for free, but my reference to Nainggolan was that he was declining player with high salary, and difficult to get rid of. Same could happen with Zielinski, especially if he gets 3 years contract.

 

[bubba zanetti]

I know that Zielinski is for free, but my reference to Nainggolan was that he was declining player with high salary, and difficult to get rid of. Same could happen with Zielinski, especially if he gets 3 years contract.

Well, people thought that Mhiki is declining player when he came to Roma.

 

[varmin]

Well, people thought that Mhiki is declining player when he came to Roma.

He was declining but he fits really well in Inzaghi's ball. He was struggling in his first couple of months at Inter though.
I don't mind Zielinski for free, I just have some concerns about it, which is normal.

 

[pier]

no normal person should be fine with paying Mkhitaryan 4M per season. And you can be a hater, or his biggest fan. This is too much money for a 35 year old, that will be 36 next season.

What? How come "rewarding" your starters that playing consistently, from 3.8m to 4m increase on a 1-year contract extension with optional another year extension?
Why should "normal person" risking losing their low-cost performing player on a free transfer for a merely 200k increase?

Now, regarding Zielienski rumours. As cost comparison, having both Mkhi and Zielinski costs the same as having Sensi + Klaasen. The difference in quality and more importantly the availability is quite obvious.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Well, yeah considering Sensi's amortization cost, it's pretty even. But Zielinski will probably have a nice signing+agent fee, a bit like Thuram (he got 8m). So it's not exactly free.

Anyway, we know our management, if they are going after a guy with this kind of costs, we can afford the guy.